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  • #16
    I use to have a link to more accurate calculators but this one should do
    Harris-Benedict formula calculator for males
    Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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    Don't forget to play!

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    • #17
      I'm sorry to say this but it's bull shit. I already tried to follow the calories intake it gave me, I was losing weight VERY VERY quickly. I need to grow, I totally stunted my puberty !
      Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
      (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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      • #18
        So eat like a crazy man, you said your BF % is low. Eat quality primal food and eat until you don't want to eat any more. Also squats are supposed to help with testosterone and growth hormone levels.
        "Go For Broke"
        Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
        Small Kine-168/9%
        Now- 200/8%
        Goal- 210/6%

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        • #19
          My BF% is much too low, 5%, it's one of the reasons why my natural production of sexual hormones has stopped.

          But won't the fact of gaining weight/fat too quickly have bad effects on my health and body ?

          EDIT: However, I noticed something.
          When I eat big (some people would call that a binge but it's actually not since it's "perfectly" controlled and wanted, even if I don't feel totally secure afterwards), the effects are very quick to come. And it does really depends on the food I "binge" on.
          If I stuff myself with quality meats, say nearly 5 lbs of veal for example, or eggs, coconut oil, shredded coconut, unsweetened chocolate powder, I look and feel great the day after. However, if I binge on almonds, fruits, almond butter...etc I just look full of water and tend to get a slight fat belly.
          Something to do with inflammation probably.
          Last edited by Daydreamer; 06-18-2012, 12:05 PM.
          Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
          (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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          • #20
            Sounds like you know what to do, eat the quality food and minimize the fruits and nuts.

            By definition binge eating is transient, meaning too much food then too little food. Don't do that. Try to find a sustainable amount of food to eat everyday.

            The great thing about weight lifting is, even if you can only squat 45lbs, that's fine you'll still be able to move up from there.
            "Go For Broke"
            Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
            Small Kine-168/9%
            Now- 200/8%
            Goal- 210/6%

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            • #21
              I know the benefits of weight lifting since I used to lift weights very seriously some months ago. However my body is still in a very diminished state and I'm not able to get the benefits from that just yet. I end up slowing down my healing process. But thanks for that by the way.
              Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
              (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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              • #22
                I very highly doubt you would be unable to get the benefits of strength training, as long as you take it slow and allow recovery. Weight lifting is usually recommended for men with hypodgonadism.
                "Go For Broke"
                Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
                Small Kine-168/9%
                Now- 200/8%
                Goal- 210/6%

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                • #23
                  For aging men with a natural form of hypogonadism, not an extreme case of hypogonadism provoked by drastic diet and training mistakes with almost not functioning testicles and levels as low as 20 ng/dl.

                  I sincerely don't see how the hell I could benefit from weight lifting since my body is more inclined to waste away than to create new cells. I must be very very careful. It's too soon, I just feel it.

                  To be honest, I'm well aware of the fact that I feel (and tend to look) better eating 3000-3500 calories, but I'm just afraid in doing so as it sounds much more than recommended everywhere... I don't want to regret it.
                  Last edited by Daydreamer; 06-18-2012, 12:41 PM.
                  Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
                  (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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                  • #24
                    Is it normal that I feel much better eating very low carbs and very high fats ?
                    I don't have any experience with ketosis. Today I ate 30g of carbs and I feel MUCH better than as usual.
                    Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
                    (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Daydreamer View Post
                      Is it normal that I feel much better eating very low carbs and very high fats ?
                      I don't have any experience with ketosis. Today I ate 30g of carbs and I feel MUCH better than as usual.
                      I feel much better eating lots of fat (I don't eat low carb though).
                      Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                      Griff's cholesterol primer
                      5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                      Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                      TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                      bloodorchid is always right

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                        I feel much better eating lots of fat (I don't eat low carb though).
                        Well to be honest today it wasn't even on purpose. I just ate like 600 grams of different veggies spread evenly in my two meals and didn't think about eating fruits.
                        Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
                        (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Daydreamer View Post
                          For aging men with a natural form of hypogonadism, not an extreme case of hypogonadism provoked by drastic diet and training mistakes with almost not functioning testicles and levels as low as 20 ng/dl.

                          I sincerely don't see how the hell I could benefit from weight lifting since my body is more inclined to waste away than to create new cells. I must be very very careful. It's too soon, I just feel it.

                          To be honest, I'm well aware of the fact that I feel (and tend to look) better eating 3000-3500 calories, but I'm just afraid in doing so as it sounds much more than recommended everywhere... I don't want to regret it.
                          3000-3500 is not that much for a normal man, and certainly not enough for a man who wants/needs to gain weight! I think you know intuitively what you should be doing (eating a lot) but you've maybe got some neuroses about weight gain to deal with. If you feel better eating a lot, then eat a lot! If you feel better eating low carb, then do that. If you are wasting away, you shouldn't be afraid of gaining weight! Just focus on nourishing yourself! That is what this is all about, after all. With the proper nutrients, your body will sort itself out!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ann1217 View Post
                            3000-3500 is not that much for a normal man, and certainly not enough for a man who wants/needs to gain weight! I think you know intuitively what you should be doing (eating a lot) but you've maybe got some neuroses about weight gain to deal with. If you feel better eating a lot, then eat a lot! If you feel better eating low carb, then do that. If you are wasting away, you shouldn't be afraid of gaining weight! Just focus on nourishing yourself! That is what this is all about, after all. With the proper nutrients, your body will sort itself out!
                            Thank you for taking the time to give me this kind of answers.
                            It's reassuring and probably right. It's kind of paradoxical to know I'm following for good reasons a nutritional philosophy that is very far from what is recommended everywhere and that I'm still afraid to transgress what's commonly recommended in terms of calories... Everyone is different and has different needs at different moments of their life I guess.

                            Thank you
                            Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
                            (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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                            • #29
                              Sure thing! How is it to be primal in France? I loved Paris and wanted to travel south but I stayed there, because I fell in love with the city and didn't have enough time. I didn't know that I had Celiac then, so I abandoned primal (and I don't regret it). I thought that, in general, the French embraced dietary fat? Is the low fat thing getting popular there, because that would be a crying shame! Don't they have laws to protect their culture?

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                              • #30
                                Sorry to hear about your celiac disease.

                                Yes Paris is an amazing city, full of different places and stories, I love it.
                                It's kind of difficult to be primal in Paris, I'm not as primal as I would like to be when it comes to the sources of my food and the way they've been fed or cultivated. But it's better than nothing. However I'm getting more and more interested in the few farms that are around my area (there are some very little "zones" of countryside around Paris) for their "meat parcels". I know they're probably not grass-fed but they're "organic".
                                French cuisine is still alive and kicking in great restaurants, but most of the active and "relatively" young (up to 40-50-60 y/o) people are totally embracing the low fat thing, processed foods habits... It's everywhere in the world, sadly. And most of the doctors are telling stupid stuff. We're brainwashed and controlled by lobbies !
                                Last edited by Daydreamer; 06-20-2012, 03:32 AM.
                                Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
                                (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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