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    I'm feeling disappointed with eating primally, and some days I want to quit, days like my 3 yo's birthday part where I can't eat cake and ice cream to celebrate with him.

    I've been auto-immune protocol primal for 3 months. I got tested for food intolerances and almost every grain was on my no list. Here's what happened after going primal:

    Lost 16 pounds (I needed that weight... now I'm almost under weight)
    PMS symptoms like acne started up
    Hot flashes and sweaty a lot
    Need deoderant now when I never did before
    Skin issues like psoriasis haven't gone away
    And I feel pretty agressive or short tempered more often (like when I was pregnant)

    BUT the other variable is I weaned my son after he nursed for 14 months. I've never been through a post-nursing hormone change... Could that be what's up? If so, when will I balance?

    I want to see some improvements. What can I do?
    Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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    "Celebrating" has become intertwined with eating sugar filled crap? Not eating cake = not celebrating?

    And regarding your other problems, I can't imagine improving your diet is what's causing them.

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    • #3
      There is no reason you can't have cake and ice cream for your son's birthday if you want to have it, that is unless you absolutely just can't have it because of health reasons.

      I'm not sure how long a post nursing hormone change can last. I'm in the process of weaning right now myself. I shudder to think the shape I'll be in when my first post partum period comes, lol!!! Have you started having periods again since stopping nursing?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
        I'm feeling disappointed with eating primally, and some days I want to quit, days like my 3 yo's birthday part where I can't eat cake and ice cream to celebrate with him.

        I've been auto-immune protocol primal for 3 months. I got tested for food intolerances and almost every grain was on my no list. Here's what happened after going primal:

        Lost 16 pounds (I needed that weight... now I'm almost under weight)
        PMS symptoms like acne started up
        Hot flashes and sweaty a lot
        Need deoderant now when I never did before
        Skin issues like psoriasis haven't gone away
        And I feel pretty agressive or short tempered more often (like when I was pregnant)

        BUT the other variable is I weaned my son after he nursed for 14 months. I've never been through a post-nursing hormone change... Could that be what's up? If so, when will I balance?

        I want to see some improvements. What can I do?
        Most of these issues can be attributed to the weaning. I was more of a mess while weening than I was during any of my pregnancies. It should pass fairly soon. The psoariasis might be a Vit d deficiency if you don't supplement. It can also be a sulfer deficiency. Or if you haven't given up dairy then I would try it to see if your skin issues are helped. The changes in your hormones while weening are drastic. Just relax and try to take that into account. Make sure your significant other knows this so they can help you through it.
        F/37yr/5' 5"
        SW: 154 March 2011
        CW: 140 July to Oct 2011
        PB: 145 gained 5lbs in first 4 months March to July 2012
        With a combo of PB and IF-ing 5 days a week (1 x 1200 calorie meal per day) I have lost 15 lbs PB/IF = 130 lbs July 2012 to current
        GW: 120
        Ultimate Goals ar to be: Happy/ Fit/ Energetic/ Feel great/ Balanced/ cure my thyroid and adrenals

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MarissaLinnea View Post
          There is no reason you can't have cake and ice cream for your son's birthday if you want to have it, that is unless you absolutely just can't have it because of health reasons.

          I'm not sure how long a post nursing hormone change can last. I'm in the process of weaning right now myself. I shudder to think the shape I'll be in when my first post partum period comes, lol!!! Have you started having periods again since stopping nursing?
          Gluten is a huuuge no, no. And I can't have casin or whey.

          I usually start my period 3 months post partum. I'm not one of the lucky who start their period a year or more postpartum.

          And to a 3 year old who wants to share his cake with everyone, yeh, that's part of celebrating. It seems to be standard americal culture... SAC? Lol. We are working on transitioning to some other celebration goodies.
          Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mom5booklover View Post
            Most of these issues can be attributed to the weaning. I was more of a mess while weening than I was during any of my pregnancies. It should pass fairly soon. The psoariasis might be a Vit d deficiency if you don't supplement. It can also be a sulfer deficiency. Or if you haven't given up dairy then I would try it to see if your skin issues are helped. The changes in your hormones while weening are drastic. Just relax and try to take that into account. Make sure your significant other knows this so they can help you through it.
            That seems to be the case for me as well... Or more like a revisit to all the things pregnancy aggrivated to begin with. How long is "soon?". And what happened to your breastS once your milk was gone? PS after 4 months of not nursing, I STILL have some milk left.
            Last edited by GeorgiaPeach; 06-13-2012, 03:11 PM.
            Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
              Gluten is a huuuge no, no. And I can't have casin or whey.

              I usually start my period 3 months post partum. I'm not one of the lucky who start their period a year or more postpartum.

              And to a 3 year old who wants to share his cake with everyone, yeh, that's part of celebrating. It seems to be standard americal culture... SAC? Lol. We are working on transitioning to some other celebration goodies.
              If gluten, casein and whey are off the menu because of allergies, then giving up on eating whole unprocessed foods is not going to change that.
              Female, age 51, 5' 9"
              SW - 183 (Jan 22, 2012), CW - 159, GW - healthy.

              Met my 2012 goals by losing 24 pounds.
              2013 goals are to get fit and strong!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
                Gluten is a huuuge no, no. And I can't have casin or whey.

                I usually start my period 3 months post partum. I'm not one of the lucky who start their period a year or more postpartum.

                And to a 3 year old who wants to share his cake with everyone, yeh, that's part of celebrating. It seems to be standard americal culture... SAC? Lol. We are working on transitioning to some other celebration goodies.
                If it makes you feel any better I never eat cake , and never did. Just never liked the stuff. And I'm glad your kids are trying to make you eat it cause mine are just happy there is more for them. BUT, my 2 year old is strictly gluten free, so he gets a banana, egg, nut, and coconut flour with honey cake....pretty damn good too. I'm an x-wrestler so I guess I'm just use to saying no to peoples food without giving a woop about what they think about it.

                Either way I really hope you start to feel better soon...I would try to increase the amount you are consuming....put coconut oil on everything, add butter to anything, and don't be scurred of eating fruit. My gluten/casein free little boy gets: Egg pancakes for breakfast (2-4 eggs and 1-2 bananas and 1-2 tablespoons of coconut oil), 1/2 pound beef with an apple for lunch, smoothie with berries, coconut milk, coconut oil, and banana as a snack, and another 1/2 pound beef with watermelon for dinner. That is a big day. Sometimes he'll only have 2 meals out of all of that though.
                Last edited by Neckhammer; 06-13-2012, 04:53 PM.

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=GeorgiaPeach;865920]Gluten is a huuuge no, no. And I can't have casin or whey.

                  I usually start my period 3 months post partum. I'm not one of the lucky who start their period a year or more postpartum. [QUOTE]

                  It's funny because after my first two pregnancies ended, I had a period right away even while I was nursing. For some reason after this last pregnancy, I've had no period. I'm down to pumping once in the morning and once at night and I'm just waiting for it to hit me any time now, lol!!

                  I'm sorry you're disappointed with the diet. I think you should just give it more time. Like PP said, it's doubtful that changing your diet for the better is causing a negative effect in your body. My money is on the hormones.

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                  • #10
                    maybe you need to add in more carbs...primal-friendly ones...get yourself out of ketosis, (just my assumption as my body odor is more noticeable when I'm vlc).
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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE=MarissaLinnea;866046][QUOTE=GeorgiaPeach;865920]Gluten is a huuuge no, no. And I can't have casin or whey.

                      I usually start my period 3 months post partum. I'm not one of the lucky who start their period a year or more postpartum.

                      It's funny because after my first two pregnancies ended, I had a period right away even while I was nursing. For some reason after this last pregnancy, I've had no period. I'm down to pumping once in the morning and once at night and I'm just waiting for it to hit me any time now, lol!!

                      I'm sorry you're disappointed with the diet. I think you should just give it more time. Like PP said, it's doubtful that changing your diet for the better is causing a negative effect in your body. My money is on the hormones.
                      Wouldn't a good diet, proper sleep, and exercise help the hormones? More water? More exercise? More shopping?
                      Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
                        Wouldn't a good diet, proper sleep, and exercise help the hormones? More water? More exercise? More shopping?
                        I would think all those things would help the hormones, esp the shopping, lol!! To be honest, I don't know. I don't have the answer for you. Logically I would think the better you are taking care of yourself, the better you should feel. It is also possible that your carbs are too low. Some folks don't do well with VLC.

                        I'm probably the last person you should take advice from though. I'm a mess right now with my binges and what not. I need to get my shit under control too, lol!!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
                          I'm feeling disappointed with eating primally, and some days I want to quit, days like my 3 yo's birthday part where I can't eat cake and ice cream to celebrate with him.

                          I've been auto-immune protocol primal for 3 months. I got tested for food intolerances and almost every grain was on my no list. Here's what happened after going primal:

                          Lost 16 pounds (I needed that weight... now I'm almost under weight)
                          PMS symptoms like acne started up
                          Hot flashes and sweaty a lot
                          Need deoderant now when I never did before
                          Skin issues like psoriasis haven't gone away
                          And I feel pretty agressive or short tempered more often (like when I was pregnant)

                          BUT the other variable is I weaned my son after he nursed for 14 months. I've never been through a post-nursing hormone change... Could that be what's up? If so, when will I balance?

                          I want to see some improvements. What can I do?
                          OP, how much are you eating? Are you getting enough calories and nutrition?
                          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                          - Ray Peat

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                          • #14
                            I eat about a pound of meat a day. I'd eat more if I didn't get so full so easily on it. Being on the auto-immune protocol limits me quite a bit (especially no eggs or dairy), but I'm heavy on coconut milk and coconut oil to get extra calories and fat. Lots of bananas. Avocados moderately. I juice quite a bit of leafy greens daily so I can get an easily digestible form of vitamins and minerals. I also eat veggies on the side of my meats. I've tracked my calories a few days, and I average about 1600-2000 ish calories, 70-112 grams of protein, and 100ish to 120 grams of fat and I weigh 111 lbs which is 2 pounds more than my lowest weight. My goal weight is 125 lbs.
                            Don't let anybody tell you, "You can't" just because they can't.

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                            • #15
                              You need to refocus on some aspect of health so you can be happy and energized again. The reason to not eat the cake is not just because it's grains but also because it's full of PUFA.
                              Are you sure about dairy? I didn't drink milk for 20 years, started drinking it again and feeling much better. It's small tweaks that make primal easier to do. For years I used fish as my main protein, now I eat dairy most days and small amounts of meat on the weekends.
                              Also no longer believe sugar is a problem, am eating more fruit etc. It's still primal but it fits me and my needs better. HTH

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