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  • Does it make sense to eat things that are INDIGESTIBLE?

    This has been bothering me for quite some time now. I just can't understand why fiber continues to be touted as a great thing to consume when by definition it is INDIGESTIBLE. Here is a quote from livestrong, quite possibly the biggest CW regurgitator ever:

    Of all of the important and healthy components of diet that you need to maintain proper body function, fiber is unique. Unlike other components of food, you don't actually digest or absorb fiber: It passes through your intestine intact.

    Then Livestrong goes on to repeat the CW that even though we can't digest or absorb fiber, it's critical to eat.

    This makes no sense to me whatsoever. I'm currently healing my IBS and constipation by drastically REDUCING my fiber, so I know that it's not critical for a well-functioning digetive system. What I can't understand is why paleo/primal focused ways of eating rarely, if ever, mention the fiber-is-good-for-you CW fallacy.

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    I think the fiber thing is just CW. I suffered with chronic constipation, and fiber did nothing for me--even made it worse. My gastroenterologist finally realized that fiber isn't the answer when he had problems himself! I've found that FAT helps much more. Eating Primal may have regularized my gut flora because I am more regular, and I tend to eat very low carb, so it's not the veggie fiber that's doing it because I eat minimal veggies (I am very carb sensitive, which is the reason for my VLC).

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    • #3
      I actually took fibre tablets and my god did tey constipate me, I drank scores of water with as recomended but as soon as I stopped them all was back to normal. I think they say it is good becuase it sort of pushes the other stuff through but never worked for me.


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      • #4
        I noticed I had more trouble this past week, and I was taking my fiber supplements faithfully. I quit that sh*t so I could.
        65lbs gone and counting!!

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        • #5
          Supposedly it sits in your gut and lines it so food doesn't get caught in all those little folds and passes through more smoothly. Like a slide, I suppose... haha. So technically that's why some people say it's important and the fact that it's not digested is a good thing since it stays in your gut. I haven't noticed a big change one way or the other myself, so I can't say much about the effectiveness or damages.
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          • #6
            I was wondering the same thing when I read a bit on the Inuit & Masai, no vegetable matter, all protein & fat. I imagine they were generally healthy & regular.
            I tended to be all over the place before, but have improved in both regularity & consistancy since I went paleo, diet 30-40% animal based & the rest vegetables, fruit, nuts & seeds.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by PearlTigress View Post
              Supposedly it sits in your gut and lines it so food doesn't get caught in all those little folds and passes through more smoothly. Like a slide, I suppose... haha. So technically that's why some people say it's important and the fact that it's not digested is a good thing since it stays in your gut. I haven't noticed a big change one way or the other myself, so I can't say much about the effectiveness or damages.
              huh?

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              • #8
                Fibre is supposed to do two things, help your digestion and fill you up. I don't think fibre pills is good for digestion, as they cause bloat more than anything. On another hand, certain veggies and fruit do wonders, but I am not sure if it is fibre or certain combination of nutrients. Eggplant, apples and combination of carrots and olive oil (or just olive oil) will do wonders for those who would carry "War and Peace" to the little boy's and girl's room

                As for fibre being filling, that's basically a cruel CW approach that is borrowed directly from starvation times, when people have to stuff their stomach with anything, causing the bloat and a false sense of fullness. Grass, wood chips, etc. It is right from the same box of torture tools as 'drink 2-3 l of water'
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                • #9
                  Maybe we don't need to go out of our ways to get extra fiber, but it can't be as simple as indigestible = bad or else it'd be a good idea to just avoid vegetables.

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                  • #10
                    Well you know also a lot of vegetables are indigestible unless you cook them, and some raw veggies aren't much better.

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                    • #11
                      Most creatures eat things they cannot digest to feed the bacteria in their guts that do digest it. However that's not the case when it comes to the wood fiber and wheat husk pulp CW recommends. I suppose they have to figure out how to dump these useless commodities into the market somehow and making us believe it's a healthy supplement is one way.
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                      • #12
                        You can get plenty of fibre from vegetables.

                        The big push for fibre in CW thinking is that whole grains are a good source. From everything I have read the reason whole grains seem to be better than refined grains is the fibre. It gets the grains through your system faster so there is less chance for the toxins to get to you.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BestBetter View Post
                          This has been bothering me for quite some time now. I just can't understand why fiber continues to be touted as a great thing to consume when by definition it is INDIGESTIBLE. Here is a quote from livestrong, quite possibly the biggest CW regurgitator ever:

                          Of all of the important and healthy components of diet that you need to maintain proper body function, fiber is unique. Unlike other components of food, you don't actually digest or absorb fiber: It passes through your intestine intact.

                          Then Livestrong goes on to repeat the CW that even though we can't digest or absorb fiber, it's critical to eat.

                          This makes no sense to me whatsoever. I'm currently healing my IBS and constipation by drastically REDUCING my fiber, so I know that it's not critical for a well-functioning digetive system. What I can't understand is why paleo/primal focused ways of eating rarely, if ever, mention the fiber-is-good-for-you CW fallacy.
                          IIRC Mark did a "link love" to the book "Fiber Menace".

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                          • #14
                            Insoluble fiber and soluble fiber behave pretty differently in your gut. Dogs eat grass (which they can't digest) when their digestion is impaired, apparently to induce diarrhea or otherwise "push things along." These are the extent of my disjointed rambling thoughts on the matter. Feel free to ignore them.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sjmc View Post
                              Maybe we don't need to go out of our ways to get extra fiber, but it can't be as simple as indigestible = bad or else it'd be a good idea to just avoid vegetables.
                              Novel idea...I've been doing this for a couple weeks and feel great!

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