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  • #31
    Sugar has been my downfall too. I have tried cold-turkey (works for a while, then a huge binge). I have tried having sugar in moderation (cravings get REALLY strong with this approach). I've been bingeing on sugar since I was about 18, and I'm 44 now. I've never been more than a few pounds overweight (honestly, I really don't know how, considering the number of calories I put away), but I HATE the way sugar makes me feel. I hate the loss of control I have when I eat sugar. Literally, gallons of ice cream, bags of candy, boxes of donuts, entire serving dishes of trifle or cookies. Yesterday I ate 1/2 a batch of pumpkin muffins while hiding in the pantry. How shameful is that??? I went Primal last July, but have been unable to maintain any weightloss due to sugar binges. In the last year I've lost and regained the same 10-15 pounds 4 times. Primal for a couple of months = weight loss, great energy, muscle gains, feel wonderful. Then a 2-4 week sugar binge = regain of weight, low energy, depression, anxiety. I KNOW what is right for my body, but the cycles of sugar bingeing are my downfall.

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    • #32
      I am a few days of my 2nd no fruit stretch. The thing is, I feel so much better without sugar, with no false appetite, better energy, but I just love fruit so much. I will most likely break down on the next hot day and bury my shame in a huge watermelon, but I now aim for as long as I can go without sort of thing, because I realize that I cannot be free for good. Alas. The 'little bit' of fruit never worked for me. I start with 1 cup of cranberries in a smoothie, and the next thing, I am eating an apple after that, and then I am devouring half of the family's fruit plate, and then run ravenously hungry next day looking for even more fruit. Sugar addict at her best.

      Can you believe that 1 serving of fruit is like 1/2 of an apple?
      My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
      When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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      • #33
        I didn't read every post, so I don't know if anyone has mentioned anything about this, but my trigger is being really full. Everyone says be sure to eat lots of fat and protein, but even a really great primal meal is a trigger. Something about the full feeling makes me start scavenging the house for sweets.

        I see so many suggesting a high-protein breakfast. Breakfast is the one time of day that I have no hunger, so I take advantage of that and fast til lunch. But I supposed that sometimes that fast helps me rationalize a late night kitchen episode...

        Luckily, I'm not really binging anymore. Did that in my 20s quite a bit. But i still find myself giving into adding extra calories onto a really full belly - usually with sweets, but sometimes nuts or nut butters, etc., whatever I can scrounge up. I just don't understand it.

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        • #34
          I didn't eat much sugar in my 30s, ate low carb constantly, hardly ate any fruit & was not really any better off. Like everyone else I like sugar & now no longer think it's a problem

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Minky View Post
            I didn't read every post, so I don't know if anyone has mentioned anything about this, but my trigger is being really full. Everyone says be sure to eat lots of fat and protein, but even a really great primal meal is a trigger. Something about the full feeling makes me start scavenging the house for sweets.

            I see so many suggesting a high-protein breakfast. Breakfast is the one time of day that I have no hunger, so I take advantage of that and fast til lunch. But I supposed that sometimes that fast helps me rationalize a late night kitchen episode...

            Luckily, I'm not really binging anymore. Did that in my 20s quite a bit. But i still find myself giving into adding extra calories onto a really full belly - usually with sweets, but sometimes nuts or nut butters, etc., whatever I can scrounge up. I just don't understand it.
            Same here. When I didn't eat for a long time and am very hungry I can easily stay away from food even longer but when I just ate and am really full it's hard to control myself not to eat a lot more.
            well then

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            • #36
              Well otoh here is an anti sugar site Sugar Shock:
              Beyond Sugar Shock | Learn How to Kick Your Sugar Habit

              Connie Bennet says she hasn't eaten sugar in 15 years.

              connie2.jpg

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              • #37
                When I did leptin reset (partial success), I discovered that I craved sweets after the meal too. The "full" and satisfied feeling that you're supposed to get didn't truly kick in until 1-2 hours after the meal. If you can stave off the craving for an hour, you can usually get past it. My solution was to go to the mall or go for a drive to get away from the house.

                My downfall is not quite the sugar, it's that sugar foods like chocolate pieces and twizzlers are so easily packaged to eat out of hand. Sorry primals, but you can't just dip into a box of steak like you do for Junior Mints. I suppose I could dip into a container of berries, but they cost 5x as much as Raisinettes.
                5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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                • #38
                  I didn't eat much sugar in my 30s, ate low carb constantly, hardly ate any fruit & was not really any better off. Like everyone else I like sugar & now no longer think it's a problem
                  FH, from what i have seen, you weigh 90 lbs, give or take. I, on the other hand, ate copious amounts of fruit (and sugar) all my life, and I have always struggled with my weight. So, I think I will go with what you have been doing before.
                  Last edited by Leida; 06-13-2012, 08:23 AM.
                  My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                  When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pineneedles View Post
                    Does anyone have experience of fasting helping or hindering with sugar addiction?
                    Many of us here have found that IF, while a powerful tool for those who are already healthy, can and usually does trigger binges for those with that tendency. We'l do great for 1, 3, even 21 days, then crash harder than ever before.

                    I still believe IF can be in my future, but it'll probably look like this. Gradually, my big breakfast will reduce my hunger for lunch until I'm not eating it at all (okay, this has already happened, and has been this way for over 6 months - I'm IF'ing from breakfast to dinner every day, but only started this AFTER the binges stopped and the cravings were gone and because hunger naturally reduced, not because I ignored it), then it will reduce my hunger for dinner until I can start reducing the breakfast amount, and then, occasionally I'll do some 24hr bkfst-bkfst IF's (already do this here adn there), and then maybe some day skip breakfast ... if I feel sure I'll never binge again.

                    Originally posted by fiercehunter
                    Sugar is good for the metabolism, it's the media that has convinced we all ought to go sugar free.
                    Sugar: Pure, White &*Awesome - The Danny Roddy Weblog - Nutrition For Sex, Hair & Health

                    There's all kinds of dumba$$ people out there who when the media says jump they say how high- "my year of living sugar free" etc.

                    Eat some sugar and a lot of other healthy food and you will be happier and saner also.
                    Fiercehunter, I hate to say this to anyone, but you are being very disrespectful. Because YOU don't find sugar addictive doesn't mean someone else doesn't. This is like barging into an AA meeting and shouting, "Lighten up, a$$holes; have a glass of wine every day for the heart!"

                    We're not trying to stop eating sugar because we think it is the source of all that is unholy. We're trying to stop because it is all we can think about and it compels us to consume thousands and thousands of extra calories (usually tied in with accompanying wheat, industrial oils, chemical flavors, etc.) that we feel better not eating.

                    Can you respect that effort?
                    5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                    Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                    Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                    Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                    ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                    • #40
                      I have the same experience as MamaGrok - IF worsened binges and cravings for sweets. I only skip meals when it comes naturally. Doing the daily schedule proved disastrous.
                      My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                      When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                      • #41
                        Thanks for saying that clearly, Leida. I had a screaming todder keep me up last night, and am too sleepy to be typing. I think that when hunger reduces naturally, skipping/reducing/delaying meals can be safe & helpful, but forcing it is dangerous to someone with a bingeing history.
                        5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                        Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                        Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                        Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                        ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                        • #42
                          For me, I haven't been able to give up sugar, but have drastically reduced my consumption. Every day I have a teaspoon or two in my coffee and every night I have either chocolate or ice cream, plus I eat fruit. I maybe eat 1 large chocolate bar or a pint of ice cream a week, plus what, 10-14 teaspoons in my coffee.

                          I have not had binges since starting, but then again have never full eliminated the sugar. However I eat far less than before. It used to be more like 1-2 tablespoons in my coffee, and then probably 3-4 portions of other sweets a day. And I have emptied a bag of mini candies on many, many occasions.

                          I'm not a big believer in full on eliminating foods, though that is what I had to do with wheat.

                          http://maggiesfeast.wordpress.com/
                          Check out my blog. Hope to share lots of great recipes and ideas!

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                          • #43
                            03-24-2012

                            "Sugar is SO the problem. If you don't understand this, you just don't get it and likely never will. Good luck paying your own medical bills, I will vote against health care reform. I won't pay for your stupidity."

                            Fiercehunter, do you recognize the above quote? It's one of your hundreds of anti-carb, anti-sugar gems from Choco's post. Here's another:

                            "I ate a low omega 6 diet--no nuts whatsoever mostly-- throughout the 2000s, ate TONS of wild salmon- a can a day almost from 2002. I ate very little soy from 2004 to the present. In 2008 one day one of my lower teeth chipped off & I had adult acne in early 30s & some body fat problems beginning in my mid 30s. What caused it? Sugar and grains of course, in MODEST semi primal amounts."

                            Not really sure why you felt the need to post in this thread.
                            Last edited by BestBetter; 06-13-2012, 10:23 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Checking in at the start of yet another day of fighting sugar... Fingers crossed!
                              My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                              When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                                This is like barging into an AA meeting and shouting, "Lighten up, a$$holes; have a glass of wine every day for the heart!"
                                LOL! Thanks for the laugh MamaGrok, that was a good one (and true!)

                                Thank for all the support here everyone That was me having a two day temper tantrum and getting over the hump I guess. It's been easier since. So a week and a half of having to talk myself down every single day, then two days of $%^%$^ and since then . . . I'm fine. I haven't had to talk myself down once since then. Of course we'll see what happens the next time PMS hits . . . Or winter, when I usually have problems with depression.

                                When I started primal I went 3 months without refined sugar and thought I had a handle on it and that I was ok to have a treat now and again. So I did and within a week I was back to eating sugar every day. So this time I know that I just can't. For whatever reason, my body has no control over sugar and I really want to do my best to try and accept that (even though it really sucks).

                                I've had a sweet tooth my entire life, but it's gotten worse with age. Or maybe pregnancy. Things did get substantially worse after my second pregnancy (with my plus size baby boy - huge baby but nope, no gestational diabetes, he just took after my side of the family). So maybe it was a hormonal pregnancy thing for me, I don't know.

                                Of course he's 10 now so you'd think it would have gotten better but I guess whatever hormonal changes pregnancy make don't just disappear on their own.

                                And for those who mentioned, yes, I am taking care of my emotional health too. I won't bore people with the details but this past year and a half I've made a lot of progress on that front (after a lifetime of lying to myself and saying I was fine).

                                So thanks for the support and for listening to my rant.

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