Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Post-IF-issues

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Post-IF-issues

    I really like to skip breakfast these days. I have some cream in my coffee, and that's it until noon. I feel happy and am even-tempered. Then I have lunch, like today beef with greens, a few blueberries and my cup of kefir or so. Maybe another cup of coffee and a pice of fruit for desert. And then I BLOAT up like crazy, and my mood drops dramatically down to annoyed with all, and I'm tired. Then I go and stuff my face (primal, but still,I'm not hungry) because I'm a horrible stress eater. I think I had the same thing after breakfast when I still ate some. It's like food makes me feel bad...what gives? I don't even want to eat anymore, I seem much happier fasting.

  • #2
    Could be the fruit? I've cut way down, some strawberries or blueberries once a week, and I haven't missed it.

    Comment


    • #3
      Alternatively, try eating the fruit alone instead of adding to a stomach full of meat and veggies. I have found I digest fruit better when eaten alone.
      Crohn's, doing SCD

      Comment


      • #4
        Fruit's great and all, but for me, it's like crack. With chocolate, I have no problem controlling my portions, but fruit always sets me up for a binge-fest. Also, if I eat it after a meal, I usually get bloated and feel sick to my stomach. So, yeah, what knifegill said; if you're going to eat fruit, it is alone.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by Comma View Post
          ...I have lunch, like today beef with greens, a few blueberries and my cup of kefir or so. Maybe another cup of coffee and a pice of fruit for desert. And then I BLOAT up like crazy...
          Remove a single item from the equation each day until you single out what it causing the symptoms...
          http://stackingplates.com/

          Comment


          • #6
            No problem- it's only a small handful of berries anyway, I can easily not have any. Think insulin puts me in a foul mood? Whoa.

            Comment


            • #7
              I don't think it's the fruit causing that large of an insulin spike, especially if you're eating it with other foods. Maybe you just ate too much in volume in general. The bloat could be the fruit left undigested since you ate it after your protein-heavy meal, the vegetable you ate (is it cruciferous?), or it could also be attributed to the extra cup of coffee. Is it the same kind of coffee you drink in the morning?
              My chocolatey Primal journey

              Unusual food recipes (plus chocolate) blog

              Comment


              • #8
                Yes, same coffee. It wasn't that big a meal- maybe 4 oz of meat, a handful of kale (yep), red beet, and mustard greens, maybe 10 blueberries, cup of well-fermented kefir. I can eat a lot more than that.

                Doesn't anybody else feel mad yet tired after they eat??

                Comment


                • #9
                  When I re-feed after a long fast (24 hours or more) I like to get a variety. I usually include sweet potatoes and/or spaghetti squash as I love both. I tend to eat them with butter, some sort of protein (I like white fish or grass-fed beef with the squash) and tend to finish it with dark chocolate. I also have sparkling water with lemon. I tend to also include broccoli, spinach or brussel sprouts, although these are staples in almost every meal I have. Needless to say, it's a lot of food, a good portion of protein, fat and carbohydrate. I'm sure the "digestion" is not ideal with such a large meal and all three macros, and I tend to feel a little bloated. However, I also like to plan the re-feeds for a time when I have some relaxing time at home, not planning any substantial activity for at least 8-12 hours and able to rest and digest. After a meal like this, in no way, shape or form do I want to really do much. There have been a few times when I've had something to do and had to go out feeling full and bloated. It's not pleasant, so I avoid it and use smarter timing. If not, it definitely contributes to a sour mood.

                  Maybe this doesn't answer your question, but maybe just planning the timing a bit better and not letting it kill your mood would be good. The food you're eating is fine and after a fast, the body probably wants/needs it. The biggest contributor to stress after a meal is going to be inhibited digest, and the best way to interrupt digestion? Stress...

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by StackingPlates View Post
                    Remove a single item from the equation each day until you single out what it causing the symptoms...
                    This. It could easily be the kefir.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Perhaps your high protein lunch is causing a drop in serotonin which then causes you to want to binge eat. Or maybe fasting is stressful for you because you get that lean, clean, empty feeling going and then when you fill your stomach, it triggers body image issues. I know that I've had issues with feeling like I've gained a million pounds just because my stomach is full now, which of course only stresses me out and makes me want to eat even more, which then makes me feel even more awful.
                      Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                        Perhaps your high protein lunch is causing a drop in serotonin which then causes you to want to binge eat.
                        That's exactly how it feels like- and carbs were sort of low, too. I didn't know protein itself caused serotonin to drop! That would explain a few things. And I jsut weight myself- I have gained 4 lbs over the last couple days (when I IF), and I think it is from bingeing at night on cocnut and sunflower seeds. Darn! So I had breakfast this morning, seems I have to re-think IF. It'd be better in the evening, but then there's the force of habit so much stronger.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Thank you all for helping me with this, btw!

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I didn't know either and it's certainly not my experience. We are all different though. I usually eat a purely protein lunch (canned fish with mustard and salt) and feel fine. Lately I've just nuked sweet potatoes for lunch and after that lunch I am falling asleep. Back in my depression days I responded poorly to meds that operated on serotonin and well on those that worked on dopamine, so maybe I'm just wired differently.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Comma View Post
                              That's exactly how it feels like- and carbs were sort of low, too. I didn't know protein itself caused serotonin to drop! That would explain a few things.
                              Some foods are regarded as "calming" because they contain an amino acid called tryptophan - a precursor to the sleep-inducing substances serotonin and melatonin. It can be found in carbs and in animal protein. Tyrosine, on the other hand – an amino acid related to a stimulated, alert frame of mind, is just found in meat, dairy, avos, seeds etc.
                              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                              - Ray Peat

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X