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    I didn't drink regular milk for many years, well more like decades, since I was about 20. Over the years I got so much mis and disinformation about dairy and in the last few years started to favor cultured dairy over regular milk which I came to think of as gross. I'm wondering if anyone else has been brainwashed to think cultured dairy like yogurt and kefir is better than regular old milk.


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    I prefer kefir to normal milk because it agrees with my stomach. If I drink a glass of milk, I end up with stomach pains due to either the casein or lactose. But because these things are missing in kefir, I don't get any adverse affects from drinking it. Also, who can resist all the health benefits of kefir!

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    • #3
      I would pick cultured dairy over regular pasteurized milk any day. But a big glass of fresh raw milk? Yum... And raw milk often doesn't upset people's tummys because the enzymes and good bacteria are still alive. I get a gallon every 2 weeks for 2 of us, so not crazy milk consumption.

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      • #4
        I think, you know, you should pick the cultured dairy because it will be better equiped to hold a conversation with you.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Return of Dado View Post
          I think, you know, you should pick the cultured dairy because it will be better equiped to hold a conversation with you.
          You're funny!

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          • #6
            We eat Plain Whole Milk Yogurt, hard cheese for k2 and sometimes kefir for probiotics. Used to drink whole milk but stopped because of the lactose (we never had a problem digesting it) and it's basically "dead" because of pasteurization. If you choose to drink milk, it should be raw. Not sure even raw milk is good for most people though.
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            • #7
              One thing I notice when at the store, Whole Foods for example, is that all of the Kefir's state that they have probiotics, but are also pasteurized. Wouldn't pasteurzing kill those probiotic cultures?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fiercehunter View Post
                I didn't drink regular milk for many years, well more like decades, since I was about 20. Over the years I got so much mis and disinformation about dairy and in the last few years started to favor cultured dairy over regular milk which I came to think of as gross. I'm wondering if anyone else has been brainwashed to think cultured dairy like yogurt and kefir is better than regular old milk.


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                Ray Peat's stuff is not all that reliable IMO. Interesting to read, but not where I would hang my hat.....

                Far as milk I only eat raw, fermented, or good cheeses from grass fed cows.
                Last edited by Neckhammer; 06-08-2012, 12:35 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SixteenDollars View Post
                  One thing I notice when at the store, Whole Foods for example, is that all of the Kefir's state that they have probiotics, but are also pasteurized. Wouldn't pasteurzing kill those probiotic cultures?
                  My guess is that it's pasteurized milk that is then cultured and fermented.

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                  • #10
                    I recently ran across cultured coconut milk at my local Sprouts. All the good enzymes of kefir with a lot less carbs.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Return of Dado View Post
                      I think, you know, you should pick the cultured dairy because it will be better equiped to hold a conversation with you.
                      I'm glad you're back, Dado. How did we manage without you?

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                      • #12
                        Kefir is a trendy 2000s food.

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                        • #13
                          Trendy in the same way that coconut water is trendy...Something traditional peoples have been eating for thousands of years but are just starting to show up in supermarkets.

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                          • #14
                            Haven't had raw milk in 30 years! But I remember that it didn't bother me the way pasteurized/homogenized does. I eat cultured dairy~ TJ's Greek yogurt, some cottage cheese, and hard cheese. Just not too much

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                            • #15
                              I love the raw milk. Have had reactions to regular run of the mill milk and cream in more recent past since cutting it out for a few months, even when pastured, ---but the raw milk seems to be fine. Love it. Am on a kick of drinking lots, plus throwing it into the ice cream maker. I assume that the cold probably affects some of the raw milk enzymes, but likely not like boiling it. Delicious. (But I have always loved al dairy products passionately) I find that while I am not gaining weight with the added carbs from milk and sugar, and possibly the pro growth stuff in it, I am getting a little pudgier around the middle. Nothing crazy, but noticeable. But feel like the dairy fat or something in it is really amping up my mood. Have gone from good mood to great on dairy. Most people do not have this, and I think I am addicted!!! I keep putting off the day that I cut out dairy again.
                              Started Whole30 December 31, 2011
                              Integrated Leptin Reset/Jack Kruse plan Jan 13, 2012
                              Starting Weight: 174.8
                              CW:160.0 lbs

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