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    When I cut out wheat, I didn't cut out coffee. As a result, my digestive system worked slightly better, but I was still having gas in the afternoon. I cut out my afternoon Starbucks and my morning organic locally-roasted french-pressed coffee for a week now, and my stomach bloat and afternoon face bloating is pretty much gone (minus yesterday during the aftermath of over half a pound of nuts). Anybody else have the cross-reactivity with wheat in coffee? I'm not sure if it is just the shitty Starbucks coffee or the coffee in general. In a month I'll add my good coffee back in to see if there are any negative effects. This is so awesome! But so sad because now I can't drink yummy black coffee
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    I thought coffee caused bloat for a while too, now think it's healthy and have decided to drink it based on its anti oxidant effect, mineral content etc.
    Caffeine: A vitamin-like nutrient, or adaptogen. Questions about tea and coffee, cancer and other degenerative diseases, and the hormones.

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    • #3
      Very interesting. I've been trying to figure out what is still causing my bloating. It's so frustrating to be eating so healthfully, but still be bloated enough to look pregnant some days!!
      I'm in the middle of a few weeks' experiment of cutting out dairy to see if that's the ticket. Drinking my coffee black is not fun, but gosh, if coffee is the cause-I just might cry! What exactly is the "cross-reactivity" that you mentioned? Might be something for me to look into.

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      • #4
        I heard it's because the protein structure in coffee is similar to that of gluten, so it could cause a similar reaction in your gut. Good for you for trying to cut dairy out; I've pretty much done that too, except I eat cheese maybe once every 2 weeks.

        You could try buying better, freshly-roasted coffee if you don't like drinking your coffee black. Mine is so delicious that I could drink it black pretty much from day 1. Also, I use a french press.
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        • #5
          Fiercehunter, there are a lot of positives of coffee and caffeine that I already understand. But you can also get those benefits elsewhere, ie eating diversified Primal foods, without having to succumb to the bloat. And I get my caffeine from quality tea now.
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          • #6
            I'm pretty bloat-prone. Everything from the usual suspects all the way to excess fruit consumption will get my belly out. But never nice, black coffee made from well-water. I'm even pretty sure tap water bloats me. I don't know if it's the fluoride or other chemicals. But I stick to well water as much as possible - and it makes a superb coffee anyway! But, no, plain black coffee does not bloat this pink-skinned zit-prone white guy. Almost everything else does, though! For sure dairy!!! I had some ice cream yesterday and I'm already gassy and feeling weird belly pressure. But it was worth it. Beyond worth it. Mmmmmm, sweet ice cream! The most paleo ice cream I've ever encountered, too. Milk is from cows with the healthier protein DNA (that whole A2 thing), etc.
            Crohn's, doing SCD

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            • #7
              Lol, you're funny knifegill! I've actually researched the tap water from my county because they do testing and release reports every year. They actually use well-water in my area, and the water highly exceeds the standards placed on drinking water in cities. So I don't think it's the water, especially since I'm still drinking tap right now.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by sakura_girl View Post
                I heard it's because the protein structure in coffee is similar to that of gluten
                Hmmm, that would explain why coffee used to aggravate my acid reflux. Gluten sensitivity caused acid reflux, coffee made it worse. Now that I'm generally wheat free (and off of Prilosec, yay!), I can tolerate small amounts of coffee.
                5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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                • #9
                  I will be glad when one day I can tell my tummy looks bloated vs. just being too fat
                  65lbs gone and counting!!

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                  • #10
                    I read about the cross-reactivity phenom in Nora Gedgaudas' book "Primal Body, Primal Mind: Beyond the Paleo Diet for Total Health and a Longer Life." She states: "Cross-reactivity, which is the tendency to react to substances either genetically or structurally similar to gluten or that our immune system has merely come to associate with gluten, is an added concern for many..." She talks about how if you always had a piece of toast, or a doughnut, or cereal, or whatever with your coffee for many years, your body may now associate the intake of coffee with the negative effects that gluten had on you before and simulate the same response without actually eating the gluten.

                    "Among the most common true potentially cross-reactive compounds are:
                    -casein (milk protein and cheese included)
                    -oats (including the supposedly "gluten-free" kind)
                    -rye
                    -barley
                    -spelt
                    -kamut (also known as Polish wheat, Egyptian wheat, or camels' wheat)
                    -yeast
                    -coffee
                    -milk chocolate"

                    So yes, butterphly01, dairy could be causing your problem!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sakura_girl View Post
                      When I cut out wheat, I didn't cut out coffee. As a result, my digestive system worked slightly better, but I was still having gas in the afternoon. I cut out my afternoon Starbucks and my morning organic locally-roasted french-pressed coffee for a week now, and my stomach bloat and afternoon face bloating is pretty much gone (minus yesterday during the aftermath of over half a pound of nuts). Anybody else have the cross-reactivity with wheat in coffee? I'm not sure if it is just the shitty Starbucks coffee or the coffee in general. In a month I'll add my good coffee back in to see if there are any negative effects. This is so awesome! But so sad because now I can't drink yummy black coffee
                      Moldy coffee? What Dr. Mercola didn’t say about coffee, brains, and muscle (video) The Bulletproof Executive

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                      • #12
                        I gave up coffee and tea recently after learning they are processed with flouride and retain it! I was pissed because I always thought they were my safe go-to drinks when black wth nothing added. Apparently nothing s sacred.

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                        • #13
                          I'm with knifegill. I bloat after eating pretty much anything except meat and coffee.

                          It could be the quality of the coffee though, for sure. I am really careful about my coffee and it does me good.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by butterphly01 View Post
                            Very interesting. I've been trying to figure out what is still causing my bloating. It's so frustrating to be eating so healthfully, but still be bloated enough to look pregnant some days!!
                            I'm in the middle of a few weeks' experiment of cutting out dairy to see if that's the ticket. Drinking my coffee black is not fun, but gosh, if coffee is the cause-I just might cry! What exactly is the "cross-reactivity" that you mentioned? Might be something for me to look into.
                            This is me, too. I've been trying to figure out the cause of my bloating for a long time now. Despite eating a super clean diet and exercising, my weight stays the same due to bloat. It started before going paleo and hasn't improved at all in the 7 months that I've been eating this way. I thought it was coffee sometimes for me as well. I weigh myself in the mornings when I wake up, and one day I'd had nothing except a cup of coffee and my supplements, and started feeling bloated. I weighed myself again and was up a pound and a half!!
                            I've been drinking my coffee black for awhile now, and have even started drinking it without stevia (trying to squash the sugar cravings), and still enjoy the heck out of it. I limit it to 1 cup in the morning, and it's too much of an enjoyment for me to give up. Coffee w/out dairy was easy for me. Coffee w/out stevia is a bit more of a challenge!

                            After researching the heck out of it, I think that I might have a candida overgrowth, which would explain the wretched sugar and alcohol cravings that I've been experiencing for months now. So I'm trying the candida diet, which is VLC and no fruit, mold, yeast or vinegar (w/the exception of unfiltered organic ACV). I buy good organic locally roasted coffee, which has the roasting date on the back. So I feel good about drinking it and hope that it doesn't contain any mold!

                            Tap water could also be an issue. I found out that my area adds fluoride to the drinking water and so I just bought a fluoride filter. Hopefully it will make a difference.
                            So coffee and tea retain fluoride?! Egads, this stuff is inescapable! In this day and age, it's impossible to completely avoid exposure to toxins. So I'm doing the best that I can in the choices that I make, and am also supplementing with iodine to displace bromine, chlorine and fluoride.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Happy Paleo Girl View Post
                              This is me, too. I've been trying to figure out the cause of my bloating for a long time now. Despite eating a super clean diet and exercising, my weight stays the same due to bloat. It started before going paleo and hasn't improved at all in the 7 months that I've been eating this way. I thought it was coffee sometimes for me as well. I weigh myself in the mornings when I wake up, and one day I'd had nothing except a cup of coffee and my supplements, and started feeling bloated. I weighed myself again and was up a pound and a half!!
                              I've been drinking my coffee black for awhile now, and have even started drinking it without stevia (trying to squash the sugar cravings), and still enjoy the heck out of it. I limit it to 1 cup in the morning, and it's too much of an enjoyment for me to give up. Coffee w/out dairy was easy for me. Coffee w/out stevia is a bit more of a challenge!

                              After researching the heck out of it, I think that I might have a candida overgrowth, which would explain the wretched sugar and alcohol cravings that I've been experiencing for months now. So I'm trying the candida diet, which is VLC and no fruit, mold, yeast or vinegar (w/the exception of unfiltered organic ACV). I buy good organic locally roasted coffee, which has the roasting date on the back. So I feel good about drinking it and hope that it doesn't contain any mold!

                              Tap water could also be an issue. I found out that my area adds fluoride to the drinking water and so I just bought a fluoride filter. Hopefully it will make a difference.
                              So coffee and tea retain fluoride?! Egads, this stuff is inescapable! In this day and age, it's impossible to completely avoid exposure to toxins. So I'm doing the best that I can in the choices that I make, and am also supplementing with iodine to displace bromine, chlorine and fluoride.
                              What fluoride filter did you get? I can't afford one right now but eventually want to get one and have been searching for a trustworthy one...
                              SW: 243
                              CW: 177
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