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    Just wanted to take an opinion poll. I'm trying to stay lower on carbs for weight loss purposes. Do most people count all carbs, or remove the fiber like has been taught on other diets? I have so far been counting all carbs toward my overall count and trying to keep it below 100 and closer to 50 on most days.

    Any thoughts??

  • #2
    Originally posted by sjosie25 View Post
    Just wanted to take an opinion poll. I'm trying to stay lower on carbs for weight loss purposes. Do most people count all carbs, or remove the fiber like has been taught on other diets? I have so far been counting all carbs toward my overall count and trying to keep it below 100 and closer to 50 on most days.

    Any thoughts??
    Eat vegetables...almost impossible to eat too high carb if you stick to veg.
    PS
    Smother them in butter.
    Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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    • #3
      The fiber is indigestible so do not count it in your total.
      Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dirlot View Post
        Eat vegetables...almost impossible to eat too high carb if you stick to veg.
        PS
        Smother them in butter.
        Nothing better than some grass fed butter! I think I'll skim off the fruit a bit and only get carbs from the veggies. Thanks!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
          The fiber is indigestible so do not count it in your total.
          Good call, thank you!

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          • #6
            Well if you are specifically following the PB then you count all carbs, but I don't completely agree with that stance.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
              Well if you are specifically following the PB then you count all carbs, but I don't completely agree with that stance.
              Wow really? I couldn't find searching in his blog where he actually says either way whether you count the total carbs or the effective carbs. I know that Protein Power had you ignoring the fiber portion and counting only the sugars. Maybe that's why I always thought I was on a way lower carb diet all along because I started with Protein Power.

              I don't really count them anymore actually. I just favor the meats and fats and choose starches over fruits when I'm being healthy and sugar over fructose when I'm looking for a treat.
              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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              • #8
                No not counting carbs.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                  Wow really? I couldn't find searching in his blog where he actually says either way whether you count the total carbs or the effective carbs. I know that Protein Power had you ignoring the fiber portion and counting only the sugars. Maybe that's why I always thought I was on a way lower carb diet all along because I started with Protein Power.

                  I don't really count them anymore actually. I just favor the meats and fats and choose starches over fruits when I'm being healthy and sugar over fructose when I'm looking for a treat.
                  How to Succeed with the Primal Blueprint | Mark's Daily Apple Towards the bottom of the page (almost very end of page one) in the comments Mark says it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                    Well if you are specifically following the PB then you count all carbs, but I don't completely agree with that stance.
                    Yep, Mark does go by total carbs. And I think most posters here follow suit. I don't really think it matters that much which method of counting you choose as long as you pick a system and stick with it.

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                    • #11
                      I think carbs and everything you eat depends on how physically active you are.

                      Personally I prefer to count calories as it is very easy to do with the technology available today and to vary my Carb intake depending
                      On how active I am, training /playing etc.

                      The more active I am the more I eat

                      I also don't buy the ultra low Carb caveman thing, but eating primally does make it hard to over eat them, but not fat or protein .

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                      • #12
                        I still track and I track total carbs and from that it also tracks net carbs also. Net carbs is what I usually go by. Like yesterday was 35 carbs but after fiber, it was only 26 net carbs. I dont know that I have read Mark say Net Carbs before.

                        I searched and found his reply when someone asked about net carbs.

                        "the net carbs thing can be confusing. It probably has a greater impact in your calculations as you try to lower carbs to the under-50 range (meaning you should use the net carb figure when looking for ketosis). I use the 100-150 range and use a gross carb figure (since using the net, I could conceivable take in 185 grams total but net it out to 145. That would defeat the purpose)."

                        Read more: Low Carb Sample Menu | Mark's Daily Apple
                        65lbs gone and counting!!

                        Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                          How to Succeed with the Primal Blueprint | Mark's Daily Apple Towards the bottom of the page (almost very end of page one) in the comments Mark says it.
                          Oh I did find that in the q&a part. I had not read all that before, I dont think. "In the PB we count fiber as part of your total, so in your example that would be 100 grams. Grok on!

                          Read more: How to Succeed with the Primal Blueprint | Mark's Daily Apple
                          65lbs gone and counting!!

                          Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                          • #14
                            I expect Mark advises to include fiber for the sake of keeping things simple. Plus a lot of US food labelling doesn't give a breakdown of carbs into fiber, sugar and starch.
                            Last edited by paleo-bunny; 06-07-2012, 04:32 AM. Reason: grammar
                            F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                            • #15
                              unless you are really restricting carbs, like <20 a day (induction type levels), then its not so important to exclude them in you count. As others have said, eating veggies, its hard to eat too many carbs....

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