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  • I went link hopping yesterday from the leptin question thread, and landed on this one this morning. Interesting the impact on BAT. Maybe it is old news, but I hadn't heard it before.

    Green Tea Can Help Your Body Discard Unwanted Fat | Weight Loss News
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    • Originally posted by gopintos View Post
      I went link hopping yesterday from the leptin question thread, and landed on this one this morning. Interesting the impact on BAT. Maybe it is old news, but I hadn't heard it before.

      Green Tea Can Help Your Body Discard Unwanted Fat | Weight Loss News
      I have problems with tea - any tea. It keeps me awake at night if taken after noon hour; and leads to overactive bladder at any time. Not that I don't love it and keep trying, but green tea is my least favourite. I 'm trying again with the ice packs on belly stuff. One somewhat lasting benefit of doing it during the hot months was that I don't seem to need as much heat on near frost, and I am aware that my skin may be cool, but I don't need to put on a sweater. Mind over matter? Don't know, but I like it.

      And I'm hoping Otzi can tear himself away from his Tater thread and get back to ice water. (Maybe he won't be able to stand the coid now that his weight has reduced further!;-))

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      • Originally posted by Paysan View Post
        And I'm hoping Otzi can tear himself away from his Tater thread and get back to ice water. (Maybe he won't be able to stand the cold now that his weight has reduced further!;-))
        Never! I love the cold. It's already getting into single digits here in Alaska at night and we have 6" of snow already! I've been taking lots of cold walks and planning on some good cold workouts as soon as the river is frozen enough to snowshoe on. I'm not planning any cold icewater baths this winter, just want to use what nature provides. Last winter I got kind of carried away seeing how long I could handle water in the 30's and got up to an hour! This year it's going to be about seasonal living, getting cold and eating lots of fish and fat like my Eskimo neighbors used to do before we enlightened them with McDonald's and Bud Light.

        The potato stuff was a perfect transition from Summer fruits to Winter meat.

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        • It's perfectly acceptable to push the envelope when trying to ascertain your personal tolerance to anything, but, after having established that, it's even nicer not to have to! Heheheh. I saw the desperation in a lot of those efforts, and knew it wasn't for me. But I had a lot of enjoyment reading the various n=1 experiments. My own n=1 just keeps me using ice packs whenever I remember. Living doesn't have to be that painful! ;-)

          BTW, the Inuit knew enough about the cold that they devised super-insulated down undergarments and water-proof outer garments and kamiuks. They didn't want to be cold, and bathing in icy water was the last thing on their minds. I guess we've forgotten how they adapted to cold.
          Last edited by Paysan; 10-18-2012, 03:47 PM. Reason: more info

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          • I have been doing the Tim Ferris's recomendation of cold shower 2x/day and ice baths once or twice a week. Does it work? No idea as I don't really have a control group so to speak.

            I am wondering though, how spot treatment works ie ice bag on fat areas? What is the reasoning behind it?
            55 yr old male


            07/01/2013

            Weight; 199
            Chest; 41.5
            Waist; 42
            Hips; 40
            Thigh; 22.5
            Calf; 15
            Bicep: 13
            Forearm; 11.5
            Neck; 17

            07/20/2013

            Weight; 200
            Chest; 42
            Waist; 42.5
            Hips; 39
            Thigh; 23
            Calf; 15
            Bicep: 13
            Forearm; 11.5
            Neck; 16

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            • Originally posted by ez2cy View Post
              I have been doing the Tim Ferris's recomendation of cold shower 2x/day and ice baths once or twice a week. Does it work? No idea as I don't really have a control group so to speak.

              I am wondering though, how spot treatment works ie ice bag on fat areas? What is the reasoning behind it?
              Spot icing came about when Zeltiq CoolSculpting - Company Info came out. The proper amount of cold applied directly to areas with excess fat can kill the fat cells. I think trying to do it at home with ice packs is not the same as many have found out.

              There is another application of spot-icing, though, that does have merit. Applying cold directly to areas of brown fat (BAT) has the proven ability to activate the BAT which in-turn increases metabolism. If you've read this thread, you've seen lots on BAT. It's very interesting. As we get into Winter, it is time to start thinking about this.

              I bought one of these https://www.coolfatburner.com//

              This is a really well put together ice-pack harness made specifically for icing BAT areas. I'd recommend it to anyone!

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              • Problem is, Otzi, that not everyone is able to use this harness as well as the pictured testimonials. Some used it for a couple hours per night. Um, the suggested limit is 30-40 minutes. No diabetics. Well there goes half the adult population! Nobody with asthma, nor skin reactions to cold. OK. Nobody with cardio or heart problems. There goes half the other half.
                Now a lot of these might just be CYR (Cover Your Rear) recommendations to avoid messy litigation and insurance problems. Probably are, AAMOF. Nevertheless, there are enough kernels of truth to provide flashing caution lights to wholesale adoption of cold thermogenesis.
                So how long have you been using it, and how could you possibly improve on your past examples of cold hardiness, or even be able to tell?

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                • I started taking cold showers and baths a few weeks ago after reading about the benefits of them in a few places, and I must say that I'm glad that I made the switch.
                  I sit in a cold bath for 10-20 minutes 4 times a week, (after lifting and boxing training sessions), and I don't feel sore the next day like I would after a hot shower.
                  In the morning, and after work on non-workout nights, I take cold showers, and I feel refreshed and relaxed after doing so. I sleep more soundly, and rarely wake up in the middle of the night for a bathroom trip anymore.
                  It's uncomfortable at first, but your body gets used to it if you're consistent with it.
                  I took hot showers a couple of times this week, just to see if I noticed a difference. Didn't sleep as well, and I felt soreness from my workouts the next day.
                  I also feel calmer, and better able to handle stress since I started the cold showers/baths. I don't know why that is, but I'm glad about it nonetheless.
                  Last edited by counterpuncher; 10-20-2012, 04:09 PM.

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                  • Using the extremely cold and windy conditions of the storms here in the Midwest/East for some CT. Just purchased some new Neoprine foot covers and going to be nearly 40 degrees in there tonight.

                    I've stopped a bit as I'm really trying to put on muscle mass right now, but it's tough to not take advantage of the temps. I will be dieting down in a few months and plan to use CT to gain some serious and fast metabolic advantages. Anyone else been doing some experimenting?

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                    • Googled it, but still not sure what "Neoprine foot covers" are, or what you'd use them for?
                      55 yr old male


                      07/01/2013

                      Weight; 199
                      Chest; 41.5
                      Waist; 42
                      Hips; 40
                      Thigh; 22.5
                      Calf; 15
                      Bicep: 13
                      Forearm; 11.5
                      Neck; 17

                      07/20/2013

                      Weight; 200
                      Chest; 42
                      Waist; 42.5
                      Hips; 39
                      Thigh; 23
                      Calf; 15
                      Bicep: 13
                      Forearm; 11.5
                      Neck; 16

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                      • Typo. It's Neoprene, should be able to find it searching that. Like a wet suit. I've had problems doing extremely cold soaks in my drum because it's a standing 125 gallon tank and I have to keep my feet submerged. I tend to lose feeling in the feet within 45 minutes and it cuts the sessions short. These, along with warm socks underneath will keep the heat preserved in the limbs to maximize time.

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                        • Ok, I understand now. Booties. I use them for scuba diving. I soak in our tub with 6 -2L frozen bottles of water. I keep my feet in but I"m only in for 20 to 25 minutes.
                          55 yr old male


                          07/01/2013

                          Weight; 199
                          Chest; 41.5
                          Waist; 42
                          Hips; 40
                          Thigh; 22.5
                          Calf; 15
                          Bicep: 13
                          Forearm; 11.5
                          Neck; 17

                          07/20/2013

                          Weight; 200
                          Chest; 42
                          Waist; 42.5
                          Hips; 39
                          Thigh; 23
                          Calf; 15
                          Bicep: 13
                          Forearm; 11.5
                          Neck; 16

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                          • water filter

                            I think that cold water doesn't help to loss weight its great to have a Luke warm water to loss water !water filter

                            are the best way to have a water

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                            • Originally posted by wsofteners View Post
                              i think that cold water doesn't help to loss weight its great to have a luke warm water to loss water !water filter

                              are the best way to have a water
                              lol
                              "The penis is the male animal-flower, a soft-firm dildo, a warm dream."
                              -Raymond Peat, PhD

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                              • Bumping this thread up (hope I'm not committing a forum faux pas by doing so). I always love the way it feels to wash my hair in cold water, and the last two days have bathed in cold water (as it comes from the tap). I feel great after! I wouldn't mind losing a little around the hips in doing so, but just the feeling of warmth and well-being once I'm out of the tub makes it worthwhile, and certainly it seems likely we've spent more of our history bathing in cold water than warm. Anyone else taking the plunge around here?

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