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  • #16
    Originally posted by Scott F View Post
    Honey is high in fructose. As far as insulin goes it's no better than table sugar. Just because grok ate it that doesn't mean it's good for you. Grok was worried about survival and not optimum health. He would not have turned down donuts anymore than the seagulls will at the beach. Grok ate honey but only rarely and when it was in season.
    Exactly, if Grok had immediate access to unlimited supplies of honey like we do, the human species would have died out long ago. So, yes it's a whole food and a superior sweetener relative to the industrial sweeteneers, but we shouldn't be eating large quantities of it on a daily basis. I say one teaspoon a day max and like all other foods, rotate it completely out of your diet for extended periods, intermittent fast, exercise etc. Grok on, people!

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    • #17
      If you're just using it in small amounts (1 teaspoons a day) or in marinades, I would say it probably doesn't matter if you use honey or table sugar, or maple syrup, or whatever (OMG! blasphemy!). If you like honey, keep using honey, but if you switched from sugar just because it is "better" or "more paleo" or whatever, then I really don't think there's too much of a problem with just using sugar.

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      • #18
        Honey has trace quantities of essencial amino acids, antioxidants, anti-bacterial and anti viral properties. So it is better than white sugar if you are going to consume sweets.

        The Essential Amino Acids In Honey | LIVESTRONG.COM

        It shouldn't be given to infants though because of the risks of botulism via bacterial spores that are contained within. There are also certain kinds of honey that are toxic to humans because some flowers have toxins that are dangerous to humans.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Acteon View Post
          Honey has trace quantities of essencial amino acids, antioxidants, anti-bacterial and anti viral properties. So it is better than white sugar if you are going to consume sweets.

          The Essential Amino Acids In Honey | LIVESTRONG.COM

          It shouldn't be given to infants though because of the risks of botulism via bacterial spores that are contained within. There are also certain kinds of honey that are toxic to humans because some flowers have toxins that are dangerous to humans.
          I didn't dig into the studies, but the anti bacterial properties are simply the concentration of sugars in honey which upun contact with bacteria dehydrate them, hence Anti Bacterial, you could do the same thing with nearly any sugar or electrolyte.
          I question all the other claims as depending on what your state is antioxidants may or may not be beneficial, so on balance, Honey is sugar with some bee spit and compounds that may improve your health or provoke an allergenic reaction.
          Last edited by Omni; 09-03-2012, 10:29 PM.
          "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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          • #20
            Just on the Ancestral bent,
            Below is part of a 5 part blog on human evolution and diet, pretty similar to others I have read, it appears when we jumped out of the trees, we diverged from the fruitarian ways of the chimpanzees and indicating we most likely evolved with limited simple sugar intake.

            The Paleo Diet For Australopithecines: Approaching The Meat Of The Matter (Big Brains Require An Explanation, Part IV) - GNOLLS.ORG
            The Paleo Diet For Australopithecus afarensis

            Eat all you can find of:
            Nuts
            Root vegetables
            Insects
            Mushrooms
            Meat (particularly bone marrow)

            Eat sparingly:
            Fruit (your tooth enamel won’t withstand the acids)
            Foliage (your teeth aren’t shaped correctly for leaf-chewing)
            In other words, A. afarensis was most likely eating a diet within the existing range of modern ancestral diets—3.4 million years ago.

            The only major addition to this diet previous to the appearance of anatomically modern humans is the gathering of shellfish, known from middens dated to 140 KYA at Blombos Cave.
            But like everyone else, I do like a bit of Sugar on occassion, it's not the best, enjoy it when you do, but try to limit it overall.
            "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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            • #21
              If honey floats your boat, then continue using it. Mark Sisson even uses plain old table sugar with his coffee, for crying out loud. We can debate the benefits of this yummy food until the cows come home, but it doesn't matter. At the end of the day you have to experiment on how your intake of honey effects your goals (weight loss, weight gain, maintenance).

              And if you're only having once or twice a month as you say, then who the hell cares if you use it. People eat pizza once per month and do far more damage than a couple teaspoons or tablespoons of honey. I say go for it, and let your goals be your guide.

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              • #22
                The "Does it fit your goals?" saying is a little vague. My goal is to be healthy when I'm 70. How do I know now I'm 15 honey won't prevent or help with that?
                well then

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                • #23
                  I use honey in a protein shake that I make for sipping on during strength workouts, twice a week.
                  Other than that, I don't use it at all.

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                  • #24
                    what about sorghum? There is a local person where I live that grows a small batch of sugar cane to make it. Nothing added.. it looks like molasses
                    Karin


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