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    So I have this horrible cough. It comes in waves. Early morning I wake up coughing and choking and gagging and nearly puking. About mid-day to late afternoon I have a coughing fit that is much the same. Then at night when I lay down for bed, it's like the morning only 2 fold.

    I consulted with my doctor (who is paleo) after the cough lasted for 2 weeks. She said it's allergies after listening to my chest and telling me it's clear of any sounds. I thought for sure it had moved into the bronchitis stage with the ferocity of my cough. She suggested taking an allergy med for it.

    I did. No relief. DH had DS at dr yesterday and questioned my cough. She said Zyrtec would be required for a week to clear up the cough (wth??).

    I don't want to wait a week and thought about attacking this from both angles (pharmaceutically and naturally).

    Someone mentioned raw local honey (local for the local pollen) and that it could help clear up my allergies. Great. I'm game. I have some local raw honey at home.

    My question is, how much do I take and how often? How soon should I expect results?

    Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!!
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  • #2
    My husband tried the raw local honey trick for two years straight. It did not work for him at all.

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    • #3
      I'm trying it now. I have still had to take my pill a couple times (the day when it was windy and had rained the day before was the worst), but it's much less than I took it last year, despite being a "worse" allergy season.

      I take a tsp. every morning and if my symptoms get worse during the day then I'll take my pill as well. (I take Alavert though, Zyrtec doesn't work for me)
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      • #4
        If the bees used the plants you are reacting to, it might work. From what I've read, you are supposed to eat a small spoonful once per day beginning in winter and through spring. By summer, the work is done and you might be sniffle-proof. It worked wonders for me, but it doesn't work for everybody.

        Alternatively, rubbing stinging nettle all over yourself works in a pinch. If you're out fishing and something non-bee-visited hits your nose, just rub the bottoms of your arms all over with stinging nettle. Poof. Dry mucous membranes. Only stings the first few times, you adapt very quickly. By the fourth or fifth exposure, it barely tickles.
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        • #5
          When was the last time you changed your pillows? Maybe the allergen is closer than you think~

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          • #6
            when i gave up grains, my chronic, life-long bronchial issues went POOF!

            honey may work, but it takes months to build up any immunity from it. they may also not have been collecting the pollen which is afflicting you now.

            have you tried a neti pot to relieve the symptoms? it's a weird feeling at first, but works so very well.the warm water irrigation actually flushes out the irritants and restores moisture to your nasal membranes. those pills just dry you out and ultimately can make things much worse.
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            • #7
              Allergies... I've had them for years, but they've gotten way better since I quit grains. I just moved across the country this spring as well, and got myself some raw local wildflower honey, which I have a spoonful just about every day. I still get a few random sneezes occasionally, but fixing my diet and upping my vitamin D did more to help than I think the honey could.

              You can sometimes buy the bee pollen and eat it directly- it gets in the honey and filtered out, or something, I don't really know- but it doesn't taste bad (not great, either) and is loaded with B vitamins and other such goodness. It's pretty expensive, though.

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              • #8
                I just saw a headline on a local news site saying as little as 1/4 tsp of local honey can do the trick.

                We used to have beehives, and I have one last little jar of goldenrod honey left from them. I don't have much allergy problems, but honey still feels like powerful medicine to me.
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                • #9
                  before i stopped eating wheat, i did eat about 1 tbs local honey per day (on my whole wheat blueberry waffle!) and it did seem to reduce my reaction to cedar etc. I'm pretty sure that local bees (SE TX) aren't eating cedar (hillcountry). So i'm not sure if it was b/c of weather (i think the cedar is worse in springs after warm winters) or what.

                  In my n=1 experiment, i do think local honey works a little bit to reduce sensitivity to pollen but in my experience, it did take a few months, maybe even a year, to notice.

                  dropping wheat made a huge difference in a much shorter time frame.

                  maybe as others suggested, you're allergic to something other than pollen?

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                  • #10
                    My wife takes a spoonful everyday. It works for her. The hives are only about 2 miles from our house. So the honey is very local.

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                    • #11
                      I developed this "allergy" after giving up wheat products. This is the first time I've ever suffered from allergies. The end of this week will be 3 weeks that I've had this cough.

                      I like the idea of the pillow. I need a new one anyway as I've noticed this one is kind of flat.

                      I downed 3 spoonfuls last night and it seemed that overnight my cough was better (no fit at 2 am). Did not help for this morning's cough when I got up. Had 2 spoonfuls before leaving for work.

                      If it's going to take a year, then there's really no sense in getting carried away with it now. Today will be day 3 on Zyrtec. The cough is different (moister) but still not productive. It's really very annoying.
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                      • #12
                        Medications also did NOTHING for my (non-pollen) allergic rhinitis. I've been having more 'real food' for about 6 months and fully primal for 3 months, also tried honey, various herbal teas, more vaccuuming, daily hot showers, daily walks outdoors in all weathers, new bedding frequently, etc. etc., and although my symptoms have improved a lot, I still get a runny nose and sore eyes.

                        My next plan of attack is a course of probiotic supplements. I'm taking a brand that has 7 different strains. The theory is that in western humans, the gut/blood barrier is often compromised by various life stressors - including a bad diet, and our modern sanitized environment - allowing more allergens and toxins to get into the blood. By recolonizing your gut with 'friendly' bacteria, it's possible to reduce various disease symptoms, including immune reactions. If it works I'm sure I'll let y'all know!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CaveWeirdo View Post
                          My next plan of attack is a course of probiotic supplements. I'm taking a brand that has 7 different strains. The theory is that in western humans, the gut/blood barrier is often compromised by various life stressors - including a bad diet, and our modern sanitized environment - allowing more allergens and toxins to get into the blood. By recolonizing your gut with 'friendly' bacteria, it's possible to reduce various disease symptoms, including immune reactions. If it works I'm sure I'll let y'all know!
                          I've also been eating sauerkraut daily for the probiotics. And some Greek yogurt occasionally. Maybe they will help with my allergies.

                          I'm not sure what the allergen is. I noticed the cough about the time the cottonwood trees were spreading their seeds, but at the same time, I've been planting flowers all spring, and at work they're not mowing the grass as frequently because of budget restraints, so the grass is pollenating. It's hard telling what's causing it...
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                          • #14
                            FWIW, I'm in a similar boat, but I've had seasonal allergies for years and it has been getting worse for the past 4 (didn't take anything for it before the last 2). You may need to double-dose on the Zyrtec, but give it the 5 days recommended before you adjust the dose. It could just be timing, that this year the pollen count is high enough that your body can't deal with it anymore, or a change in local flora.

                            I am taking 1 tsp of RLH daily, but usually forget. I definitely have noticed an improvement in my itchiness and sneezing, when I take it, but nothing major. I hope it will make a difference by the time fall comes around as my allergies get slightly worse again around then. I get my honey at Whole Foods (they have little labels that indicate if a product was made locally), but will be looking at the local farmers markets when they open up in the next month. The honey needs to be produced fairly close to ensure that it contains pollen that you would be exposed to/possibly react to.

                            I have also been taking probiotics pretty regularly (but not daily for the past month or two) and that has not made a difference for me. I am trying out a natural anti-histamine supplement that Whole Foods carries, but it can take a few weeks for it to have a noticeable effect. So far, nothing. I might try something like this Country Life Aller Max -- 100 Vegetarian Capsules - Vitacost as Quercetin is a natural anti-histamine. Some people apparently have a vast improvement with their allergies by supplementing Vitamin C, but it can have a laxative effect, so be wary.

                            It's unlikely that you are being affected by the cottonwood trees. I just looked up some information on them and they are done spreading pollen before the seeds float around. So they were probably not affecting me when I was outside over the weekend (it was probably the grass I was standing in).
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                            • #15
                              I am hoping the day of rain we're getting will help minimize the problem.
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