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  • #31
    Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
    First, remember the crab pot. They're all trying to pull you into the boiling water so you'll be at the same disadvantage. Realize that they are assaulting you, attempting to absolve their fears by seeing you fail, too. They NEED to know that everybody else is making poor choices, too, or they run out of a good excuse to keep eating themselves to death. It's not about you, it's about them. If you fold, you're telling them it's okay to die by the hands of corporate greed, that the government is free to kill us en masse with immunity. If you stand tall, and explain you're done being poisoned like a sheep, it SHOULD piss them off because they're AFRAID of the truth.
    This is true for a lot of people. Especially when it comes to junk food. Its like mob mentality... people feel a lot better about doing something when others around them are doing it too.. if you don't it makes them feel bad about themselves.

    Then there are some that think that you are depriving yourself and its going to cause you to have mental issues with food so they actually have your best interest at heart. Then there are the ones that think you should be eating low fat and whole grains to be healthy.
    Primal since March 2011

    Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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    • #32
      Originally posted by knifegill View Post
      first, remember the crab pot. They're all trying to pull you into the boiling water so you'll be at the same disadvantage. Realize that they are assaulting you, attempting to absolve their fears by seeing you fail, too. They need to know that everybody else is making poor choices, too, or they run out of a good excuse to keep eating themselves to death. It's not about you, it's about them. If you fold, you're telling them it's okay to die by the hands of corporate greed, that the government is free to kill us en masse with immunity. If you stand tall, and explain you're done being poisoned like a sheep, it should piss them off because they're afraid of the truth.

      So tell them the truth, that they're all poisoning themselves, and start explaining that gmo grain crops are subsidized by the government, the dangers of monoculture and soil depletion, and the vulnerability of an economy based so heavily on simple grains - then, once you start explaining what monsanto and other dna-altering companies have done to make corn toxic, they'll stick their fingers into their eyeballs and run away screaming to mommy.
      qft

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      • #33
        Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
        I've started using "wheat doesn't like me." How can that be argued with? It's not an allergy, but it will have unplesant side effects. If they push, ask if they want details
        ^^This!! I had a guy today tell me his triple chocolate cake was just what I needed, and I smiled and said.. "No way.. pure poison dude.. pure poison!" and laughed and he laughed and it was all good.
        I had to eat some food the other day, after getting tattoo work done and I was ravenous and tried ordering the best I could considering most restaurants are based in carb mentality.. corn bread to start, a salad topped with peas and corn (scraped off that corn) and grilled chicken with sauteed spinach over wild rice.. uhg!!
        so I had a piece of corn bread, got rid of the corn on the salad and ate half the entree.. the next day I had anxiety, breast tenderness, lymph soreness, joint pain and was wiped out..
        its just not for me anymore..
        today I had this HUGE burger with all the fixins, loaded with bacon and blue cheese crumbles without the bun and my husband ordered the same.. the restaurant owner was more than happy to oblige, although he was the one offering the poison cake! lol
        so when those moments come up.. I just fall back on a joking attitude or say, "truly, these foods will make me sicker than a dog.. looks great, so have one for me!" or how about " I have a rare genetic disorder... "
        People tend to pooh-pooh diets, but if you put it in the framework of "it makes me physically ill," they'll leave you alone..
        Female 5'5", Feb. 29, 2012 SW 208, GW 160
        My journal...
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post734883

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        • #34
          I play the "Borderline high blood sugar card". If they persist, I tell them that my doctor says I'm at risk for diabetes (we ALL are, if we continue to eat this garbage), and that I'm only allotted a certain # of carbs per day and I have a big dinner planned tonight (or lunch, or whatever is convenient) that will use up all my carbs. I then stare longingly at the food they want me to eat and say, "Oh my gosh, I SO wish I could eat that. You enjoy!"

          I did this just today with cupcakes. They looked amazing, but I brought up the blood sugar issue, and it was quickly dismissed.
          Truly Paleo since 1/1/2012 (Doing Leptin reset)
          Turned 50 on 3/8/2012 !!!
          5'2" Female
          11/27/2011: 162.8 lbs.
          7/15/12 : 148.6 lbs.
          Clean Paleo diet: Lots of CO, Meat, Seafood, and doing CT 5x/week, 40 mins @ 50-52 degrees F

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          • #35
            I just say "wheat (or sugar) and I do not get along." If someone asks me what I do eat I am honest, but usually they leave me alone. I just went to lunch with a friend today who started off completely thinking I was nuts. The last time we got together she was in complete denial. However, 15 pounds lost later she is taking a look at the giant Cobb salad I ate while she had 1/2 a sandwich and some fries and wondering if I am not onto something here. I suspect a convert in my future!

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            • #36
              In situations where I would feel weird going into great detail of why I eat the way I do - which is most times - I just say some excuse which varies day to day. I often say I just got my braces adjusted and my teeth are too sore to chew. Only works if you have braces :P Or I say I already ate, or I just ate, or I'm not hungry, or I don't like the specific food.. or sometimes I just say "o thanks" and if they pressure I just keep repeating "no thanks" and eventually they get the point.

              I think I'll start telling people the truth though. It gets to the point where I feel like other people see me as a pathetic liar who doesn't want to admit something and is always coming up with dumb sounding excuses.
              If you have a few minutes- please take a look at my story, in my journal
              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread87400.html
              I do warn you, I am a copious writer.

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              • #37
                "I'm not hungry."

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                • #38
                  Oh yes people will leave you alone if you say you just dont like something.
                  Primal since March 2011

                  Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by activia View Post
                    Oh yes people will leave you alone if you say you just dont like something.
                    Just try to tell somebody you don't like pizza! Better to say it doesn't like you.

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                    • #40
                      Become one with your inner a**hole. Then you can say whatever you want, or not, and truly not care.

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                      • #41
                        People take food choices very personally, so I agree that it's mostly about them, and not about you. I get it all the time. I have night classes for grad school, and people take turn bringing "dinner". Of course, by dinner, I mean chips and cookies and pizza and all that shit. In two years of school, I have never had anything anyone has brought in, and I don't even know if they have noticed until recently. Someone made some offhand comment like "oh, well that's why you're a toothpick". I just said, "sorry, I don't eat that stuff". In my head I thought, "Don't try to make me feel bad for not being overweight like all of you!". Whatever with them, just do what you need to do to be healthy...they are just saying what they need to say to make themselves feel better for eating crap food. Grok on!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Nady View Post
                          Just try to tell somebody you don't like pizza! Better to say it doesn't like you.
                          You just say I don't like THAT pizza but thanks anyways.

                          I know some picky kids that dont like pizza from X or Y.. or maybe you can say you don't like the toppings... I also remember refusing pizza that really didn't taste that great before because it just wasn't worth the calories.

                          You can do the same with cake. I'm not a fan of that kind of cake, no worries you enjoy.
                          Primal since March 2011

                          Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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                          • #43
                            Gotta be careful saying you don't like X type of pizza or cake because the next time ordering happens they might want you to pick your favourite. I agree that it's better to say it doesn't agree with you since it's less likely to put you on the spot later.

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                            • #44
                              I just say "No thank you!" and keep it at that. Everyone and their mother is on a diet nowadays, it really shouldn't be that big of a deal.

                              After the usual "Are you sure? It's good!" I just repeat myself and that's it.

                              My office has actually been a bit letter lately, since at least half of the people/women will pass on cakes and pizza because they're watching what they eat -- so people just don't care anymore.

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                              • #45
                                Man, some of you guys need firmer backbones. Luckily I no longer have to function in an office setting. A lot of people aren't pushing it in their minds. It's a social thing, and depending on the part of the country you're in, it's cultural too. Here in the south, if there's a bunch of food and someone isn't eating it, the natural assumption is that the person not partaking either doesn't know about it or thinks they aren't welcome to it. Hell, hope and pray a family member doesn't die because everyone and their mother will call and say, "I'm cooking y'all dinner." "What do y'all need for lunch?" "I'm bringing you a casserole". That stuff is a statement, not a question and refusal is taken as an insult. Someone dies and you'll have home cooked meals 3 times a day for a freaking month!

                                Your perspective needs to change on it. If you lash out with your inner A-Hole, then you're alienating people that you have to see every day. A friend of mine that works for a large corporation with a ton of employee's is honest. He tells them that he doesn't eat trashy junk food at work and saves it for the weekends and also mentions how he puts too much time in at the gym to undo all the work by partaking in office food everyday. At this point too, all of his coworkers understand it. He's not being holier-than-thou, because that WILL make people harass him constantly, but he cracks his jokes right back at them.

                                I was out of town with my boss a few weeks back and he swung through a fast food joint. He's a pretty in shape dude. He really does watch what he eats but he's more of a 40/30/30 kind of guy, just the regular Joe that doesn't need to lose weight and doesn't eat trashy as much as the average American. Anyway, he came back with his food and got on a phone call. He didn't realize that I was tossing together a big ass salad out of my cooler with chicken and all kinds of stuff. So he hangs up, looks over, and there I am with this complicated looking lunch that materialized out of no where and he started dying laughing. And you know, it really is ridiculous. Hell, I started dying laughing about it. Now every time he sends me out of town overnight we crack jokes about how have to get the salad bar packed before I head out.

                                I have the kind of personality where I'll crack a joke about anything. Hell, I have a rough batch of friends. We're relentless. Example, being a road warrior, I keep a sewing kit in my trunk. Several years ago bunch of us got together for our bi-annual vacation and a buddy ripped some buttons off a shirt doing his superman impersonation (we throw down). His wife told him that she'd fix it when they got home since she didn't have a sewing kit. I replied, "Hold on" and walked off then returned with a sewing kit. Not a small one, a freaking HUGE one. 2 seconds later we were all busting out laughing at the fact that me, a single dude, travels around with a sewing kit. There's no telling how many jokes got tossed out there. We rarely all see each other and here, all these years later, every time I see a friend of mine he'll ask me if I'm ready to admit I'm clearly gay because only a gay dude would keep a sewing kit in his trunk. Or, "How's the Singer Sower!?" "Damn, almost in your mid 30's and still single..... now we all know why!" The list is long and hilarious.

                                If I was uptight and easily offended by things, then life would be bland and suck. The reality is that my diet and lifestyle IS ridiculous by standards. I see it as an opportunity for humor and adding some spice to a relatively unexciting life 80% of the time. You guys that encounter this stuff have two choices.

                                1) Let it bother you and either keep it bottled up or lash out and piss off people that you may have to rely on at work.

                                2) Roll with it, crack a joke and a smile and enjoy life. Most people will end up respecting you if you're consistent in your own convictions, and eventually they'll really want to know the why's. And when someone really wants to know why you do what you do, well, then you have a relationship with someone where you can change their perspective and impact their life in a positive way...and why the hell wouldn't someone want to do that?

                                I recommend the latter.
                                Last edited by Catharsis; 04-29-2012, 06:42 AM.

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