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  • Just eating Primal isn't enough is it?

    When I first started 'primal' eating all I had to do was stop eating grains, legumes, bad oils, sugar and processed foods and the weight loss was steady. I lost quite a few pounds the first few months (68) and several clothing sizes and was able to stop taking many medications. My knees were better, I was more active and inflammation was lower. Then something happened around the time I was learning and reading more I increased my protein and fats, decreased my carbs to the 'better' weight loss levels of <50grams. I eliminated fruits, lowered dairy to ghee and a little creamer in coffee.

    And I started gaining weight! At first I would gain 4 and lose 2 then I gained 5 and lost 1, then I gained 8 and lost 2. I blamed it on extra long hikes and retaining water etc. But here I am plus 50lbs later and I can no longer blame it on water gain!! I only eat grassfed meats mostly (or extra lean when conventional) wild fish (live by the beach) I have a garden for fresh veggies and buy from a local produce market to supplement. I use olive oil from a local farm, avocado's and coconut oil. I have access to a local dairy for high quality dairy (when I am not fearing it).

    I have not had 'bad' foods for over a year I no longer am convinced that ALL we have to do is eliminate the bad foods and everything will fall into place. There is a missing piece to this puzzle somewhere. And it does seem like this is more a problem for us women but I have noticed a few men having the same issue.

    And I know that people are going to say it could be my insulin, leptin, hormones, thyroid etc. But that would mean this is a recent developement and apparently happening to a LOT of us so why exactly is that? Are we ALL suddenly 'sick' in some way that is causing us to regain or yo-yo in our weight? Why would that be happening?

    The worse part for me is that even going back to the basics isn't working. No matter what I do now I can't seem to get in losing mode. I know I am not the only one so how many of you have/had this issue and what are you doining or have you done to figure it out??

    I will never eat grains or bad oils again because I believe they are just bad for my body personally. But I really want to figure this weight thing out so please help if you can please!

  • #2
    Two things:

    One, are you doing all 10 laws of primal, or just the food?

    Two, there's a reason you aren't supposed to go below 50g/carbs for long. Go back up and see if that helps.
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    • #3
      I Have upped them Alex and gained even faster.
      Yes I follow all of the laws including sprinting every 10 days. lifting weights 2 times per week, walking everyday, hiking 1-2 times per week, and everything else as closely as I am able.

      I did lose great in the beginning so what could have changed? Was it really lowering carbs and upping the P & F that somehow changed how I process things?

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      • #4
        Have you had a thyroid panel done?
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        • #5
          L2BF, I asked you about a thyroid panel yesterday. Remember my friend - doing everything right and suddenly she gained 40 lbs out of nowhere. Learned she's got Hashimoto's Tyroiditis. After starting her meds, she lost 17 lbs in a week. She is steadily losing again and is down a total of 25 lbs, I think.
          Primal since March 5, 2012
          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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          • #6
            I had a throid panel done last sunmmer and everything was normal..

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            • #7
              Count calories <I know, gasp!> for a week. You may find that you're simply eating too much good primal food. It's possible. If so, you can choose to cut back on daily intake or maybe just add in a 24-hr fast once every week or two.

              Peace,
              Karen

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              • #8
                Originally posted by longing2bfit View Post
                I had a throid panel done last sunmmer and everything was normal..
                Did you get your T3/T4 checked? This is not common yet it is important. Paleo is a template as chrisKresser says... sometimes you'll have specific problems that need to be addressed by adding/subtracting other things in your diet. Or..

                You didnt mention stress management or having fun at all
                Primal since March 2011

                Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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                • #9
                  I'd post the Thyroid numbers here- docs seem to miss a lot.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PeaceKaren View Post
                    Count calories <I know, gasp!> for a week. You may find that you're simply eating too much good primal food. It's possible. If so, you can choose to cut back on daily intake or maybe just add in a 24-hr fast once every week or two.

                    Peace,
                    Karen
                    I know I am eating too much meats and fats but I am always hungry. In the beginning it seems I was able to get full and stay full longer but not anymore. I wonder why that is?

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                    • #11
                      I have no ideas what the was tested as the doctor I had then tested me in one state and called and gave me the results here. I lost 68 pounds no problem before I started gaining. now I cannot stop gaining. So am I to understand that possibly I have all of a sudden developed a thyroid disease a year after I started getting healthy? And no one in my family on either side has ever had a thyroid issue.

                      I have some recent stress and mostly because of the weight gain! I was having a lot of fun hiking and boogie boarding before my fibro kicked back in

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by longing2bfit View Post
                        I have no ideas what the was tested as the doctor I had then tested me in one state and called and gave me the results here. I lost 68 pounds no problem before I started gaining. now I cannot stop gaining. So am I to understand that possibly I have all of a sudden developed a thyroid disease a year after I started getting healthy? And no one in my family on either side has ever had a thyroid issue.

                        I have some recent stress and mostly because of the weight gain! I was having a lot of fun hiking and boogie boarding before my fibro kicked back in
                        Actually, yes, that's not a rare occurrence, and is the most obvious thing to rule out in this situation. Get a new panel done, after asking here for what to ask for, post them, and see if the experts here see anything.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by longing2bfit View Post
                          I have no ideas what the was tested as the doctor I had then tested me in one state and called and gave me the results here. I lost 68 pounds no problem before I started gaining. now I cannot stop gaining. So am I to understand that possibly I have all of a sudden developed a thyroid disease a year after I started getting healthy? And no one in my family on either side has ever had a thyroid issue.

                          I have some recent stress and mostly because of the weight gain! I was having a lot of fun hiking and boogie boarding before my fibro kicked back in
                          You can call the doctor and request a copy of your results. And, I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia during my under-mediated years. Once my thyroid meds were optimized my fibro issues resolved.

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                          • #14
                            I am sensing the bottom line is that everyone is in agreement that I and everyone else with this issue (Even tho I am the only one stating it) has a thyroid problem then?

                            This just doesn't seem like the answer to me but that may be my natural inclination to fight medical issues. OK I will check into this as soon as I can and for now will continue to try and figure things out.

                            If there are any other possibilities I am open to anything at this time?

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                            • #15
                              How many times a day do you eat?
                              Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                              Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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