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  • Sorry, noob here and need some direction!!

    Ok so I am relatively new to all this, been primal for 2 months now and feel amazing, energy through the roof, it amazes me at times. Now my question is about IF and weight loss....I need a link to show me where the link is to explain this better to me, and SECOND, I would really love to hear from some of you that have been doing IF and what effect it has had for you!?? I am a 34 yo female and I crossfit 4x a week and have 2 kids and 2 businesses that I run, one being my massage therapy practice, so I am pretty active on my " off xfit" days!! I am just at a stall and I am wanting to shake things up!! Thanks!!

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    This is part six of Mark's Fasting series, links to the other 5 are at the bottom of the article...

    How to Implement Fasting | Mark's Daily Apple

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      I think marks posts are great but what I think is lost in all the info is how/why you lose weight. If you are primal then your body does not store excess calories as fat, so you will not gain weight as fat. But that does not mean the you are going to lose weight. Keto or not, if you maintain a caloric surplus for the entire day by eating throughout the day, then you will not lose weight. The burning of fat happen when you run a caloric deficit. Even if its for 1 hour you will burn your stored fat for energy. So the reason IF works is that you create longer periods of caloric deficit and therefor burn stored fat. The reason IF should not be that hard compared to someone on SAD is that your body being primal has no problem switching to burning stored fat.

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        Originally posted by Bobert View Post
        I think marks posts are great but what I think is lost in all the info is how/why you lose weight. If you are primal then your body does not store excess calories as fat, so you will not gain weight as fat. But that does not mean the you are going to lose weight. Keto or not, if you maintain a caloric surplus for the entire day by eating throughout the day, then you will not lose weight. The burning of fat happen when you run a caloric deficit. Even if its for 1 hour you will burn your stored fat for energy. So the reason IF works is that you create longer periods of caloric deficit and therefor burn stored fat. The reason IF should not be that hard compared to someone on SAD is that your body being primal has no problem switching to burning stored fat.
        Just one more thing, its not about the calories consumed throughout the day but when those calories are consumed. If person A skips breakfast and then eats an extra 1400 calories for lunch, Person A will lose weight. If Person B eats a 700 calorie breakfast but does not add an extra 1400 calories for lunch, Person B will not lose weight even though less cal are consumed.

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          Originally posted by Bobert View Post
          I think marks posts are great but what I think is lost in all the info is how/why you lose weight. If you are primal then your body does not store excess calories as fat, so you will not gain weight as fat. But that does not mean the you are going to lose weight. Keto or not, if you maintain a caloric surplus for the entire day by eating throughout the day, then you will not lose weight. The burning of fat happen when you run a caloric deficit. Even if its for 1 hour you will burn your stored fat for energy. So the reason IF works is that you create longer periods of caloric deficit and therefor burn stored fat. The reason IF should not be that hard compared to someone on SAD is that your body being primal has no problem switching to burning stored fat.
          You eat less energy then your body uses. Here's the thing.. When you stop eating the crap and food becomes less available and not super palatable and addictive you eat less without suffering. Your body gets all the nutrients it needs, so stops asking for more food. So naturally you use excess body fat for energy.
          Primal since March 2011

          Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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            Originally posted by activia View Post
            You eat less energy then your body uses. Here's the thing.. When you stop eating the crap and food becomes less available and not super palatable and addictive you eat less without suffering. Your body gets all the nutrients it needs, so stops asking for more food. So naturally you use excess body fat for energy.
            All correct.. But not everyone is the same. I was eating pretty primally, but was oversnacking. Even if this is just nuts, scratching the itch stimulates it. I was always afraid of being hungry, so I fell for the "small meals" diet. The worse thing about a small meals diet is when you go ahead and have the big meal anyway. That's what I was doing, eating way too much. If you're doing that, it doesn't matter how much you exercise, you will not lose weight.

            Letting myself go hungry, embracing the pangs, then stifling them with two large primal meals a day, has killed my appetite and cured me from snacking. That, combined with walking, sprinting and weight lifting during fasts accelerated my weight loss. I'm down to 165 from 180. This is a low as I've been in a long time. I think I have 5-10 more to go before my belly is completely flat.

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              Originally posted by dbalch View Post
              All correct.. But not everyone is the same. I was eating pretty primally, but was oversnacking. Even if this is just nuts, scratching the itch stimulates it. I was always afraid of being hungry, so I fell for the "small meals" diet. The worse thing about a small meals diet is when you go ahead and have the big meal anyway. That's what I was doing, eating way too much. If you're doing that, it doesn't matter how much you exercise, you will not lose weight.

              Letting myself go hungry, embracing the pangs, then stifling them with two large primal meals a day, has killed my appetite and cured me from snacking. That, combined with walking, sprinting and weight lifting during fasts accelerated my weight loss. I'm down to 165 from 180. This is a low as I've been in a long time. I think I have 5-10 more to go before my belly is completely flat.
              All true But not usually necessary for Nooobs
              Primal since March 2011

              Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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                Originally posted by activia View Post
                All true But not usually necessary for Nooobs
                I was wondering what you mean by that, I'm confused!? What's not necessary?? Did IF help you activia?? We are the same height and weight!! What are your goals if you don't mind my asking!? Are you finding it harder to lose now, the lower you get?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PrimalLMT View Post
                  I was wondering what you mean by that, I'm confused!? What's not necessary?? Did IF help you activia?? We are the same height and weight!! What are your goals if you don't mind my asking!? Are you finding it harder to lose now, the lower you get?
                  Well for noobs its best to KISS. Just get eating whole foods and get thru all your SAD cravings. Once you are in the groove and not having any massive cravings and are feeling good then you can start fine tuning to your goals. That's when you should look into cutting out snacking, then IF, then maybe carb refeeds timed after lifting sessions. Also you really need to start looking at stress management... because if you are under too much stress and not managing it, it will hinder your goals. Also make sure you are having fun

                  Honestly right now I'm more on cruise control, just working on getting stronger and on attaining life long health habits. I have tried all that but really hit a plateau.. so decided that instead of stressing about it and going crazy I'd take a break (chronic caloric restriction bad as well)... I haven't gained weight, and have gotten stronger (I can now do 4 unassisted pullups ) The rest of my stats are in my sig
                  Primal since March 2011

                  Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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                    it doesn't matter how much you exercise

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                      Thanks! In regards to stress, I would have to say that I have very little. I think the most amount of stress comes from this whole diet and exercise thing....I get so frustrated with all the info, makes my head spin. As for being primal and cravings, I was eating virtually primal before I ever started this journey and so the transition to 100% has been seamless. I have no cravings to speak of. Today I had breakfast at 7 and didn't eat dinner till 7 and I was pretty much fine. IF was something that interested me because especially since going fully primal, I haven't been hungry, so to find out it was OKto fast through a meal or two was awesome!!! i guess I expected more weight loss especially in this early stage and nothing is really budging. I am getting so much stronger and that I love, but I also wonder if it is possible be changing my body composition, but not see any change in weight or measurements? I feel like I have so much more definition, especially in my arms and legs, and my belly is so much flatter, but I have no changes in any measurements.. UGH.... calgon take me away!!

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                      • #12
                        ^^ you are not overweight to begin with nor were you eating bad before so so just eating primal is probably not going to magically mean immediate weight loss. From here it takes a lot of work. It just depends if its worth it to you and if you can manage the stress associated with it. I would try cycling your calories and IF for sure. Maybe even try doing 1 or 2 24hr fasts on your rest days a week.
                        Primal since March 2011

                        Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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                        • #13
                          If you have so much more definition as you say, then you are absolutely making good progress. Definition is the result of lower body fat. Flatter stomach as well. You are doing well from what you are saying. If your weight is the same then you have lost fat and built muscle. This is what you want to see happening. Keep up the good work!!

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                            Originally posted by Forever Young View Post
                            If you have so much more definition as you say, then you are absolutely making good progress. Definition is the result of lower body fat. Flatter stomach as well. You are doing well from what you are saying. If your weight is the same then you have lost fat and built muscle. This is what you want to see happening. Keep up the good work!!
                            Thanks for the kind words!!! I am seeing definition, but still no change in weight or measurements?! Is this even possible???? Could I lower bf and not seeing anything change!!?? Or maybe I'm just nuts and there really isn't more, but I have gotten comments so I am thinking its not just me!!!! Lol!!
                            Last edited by PrimalLMT; 04-20-2012, 08:32 AM.

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                              Originally posted by PrimalLMT View Post
                              Thanks for the kind words!!! I am seeing definition, but still no change in weight or measurements?! Is this even possible???? Could I lower bf and not seeing anything change!!?? Or maybe I'm just nuts and there really isn't more, but I have gotten comments so I am thinking its not just me!!!! Lol!!
                              Yes you can lower body fat and stay the same weight if you built some muscle. But you said you are seeing definition but you go on to say you see nothing changing! Which is it? LOL

                              I suggest you continue doing what you are doing and try to be patient. If you are getting comments or compliments from others then you can be assured that you are on the right track.

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