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  • Any girls stuck at the last 10-20 pounds?

    So I had been hovering at about 10 pounds above my goal weight for a long time. (My goal weight is *just* inside of "normal" according to BMI charts, so its not a super lean goal. I'm 5'7" female and 163 pounds, big feet, curvy, size 8-10) (2 years ago was 196 pounds)

    For months I have been losing maybe 1/4 pound a week. Not horrible, but frustrating! However, I have recently tried a weekly cycle of VLC, high carb and fasting. I lost 2 pounds per week the last two weeks!I'm so excited, these are the most stubborn pounds!! I had to share:

    Day one: under 20 carbs and fair calorie deficit (meat, eggs, fat, nonstarchy veggies)
    Day two: under 20 carbs and fair calorie deficit (meat, eggs, fat, nonstarchy veggies)
    Day three: practically zero carb - meat, fat, eggs only, big calorie deficit
    Day four: fast until dinner (24 hour fast from last nights dinner), a fasted workout this day, a satisfying dinner.
    Day five: 100-150 carbs and maintenance calories, or just above maintenance.
    Day six: 50-100 carbs, just under maintenance calories
    Day seven: 50-100 carbs, just under maintenance calories (I usually have a long walk on this day)

    And then I repeat.
    I also try not to snack between meals or after dinner.
    I tried this after reading about the benefits of fasting, but that it is better to fast if you already are fat adapted and so the low and zero carb days help your body get more benefit and muscle protection going into the fast.

    I'm into week three of this, so will report how I do after week three! Anyone else doing something simillar, or want to try this with me?

    Edited to add: I forgot to mention, that normally when I am losing a lot I get very cold. This past couple of weeks I have been like a furnace! Especially on the higher carb days. So I take that as a good sign that my metabolism is revved up eating this way!
    Last edited by camel; 04-10-2012, 03:04 PM.

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    I do something similar, really seems to work. 3-4 days of zero carbs, 1 normal day then 2-3 days of high cals. Works like a charm. Google the Atkins Fat Fast- its 1,000 calories which may be too low for your height. Whole point is to eat 75-90% fat- I use a stick of butter which is 800 calories then add protein like fish. I put the butter on green vegetables. Hth.

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    • #3
      Are you kidding? I think half the board, male and female, is stuck on "the last 10-20 pounds". The last few % body fat is the most stubborn for the vast majority of people no matter what diet or exercise plan you follow.

      EDIT: And yeah, a lot of people are having success with carb cycling to break through the plateau. Look up ChocoTaco's posts if you want a long rundown and lots of discussion on it.
      Last edited by Uncephalized; 04-10-2012, 10:03 AM.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Uncephalized View Post
        Are you kidding? I think half the board, male and female, is stuck on "the last 10-20 pounds". The last few % body fat is the most stubborn for the vast majority of people no matter what diet or exercise plan you follow.
        Super! Then at least a few people might find my discovery helpful!

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        • #5
          I've been thinking of doing some carb-cycling. I am trying to bulk up without putting on too much fat.
          I'll probably just start with a basic cycle of high carbs on workout days. Moderate carbs on post-workout days. All other days will lowish carbs and calories.
          “It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.” — Seneca

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          • #6
            Thank you for the post. I'm 17-ish pounds away from normal BMI and like you losing on average 1/4 lb per week. I will have to give this technique a try.

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            • #7
              Ditch the scale and let your clothes tell you whether the fat is gone or not.

              Have a little patience. As a woman, where you are in your cycle can affect weight & water retention. Give it at least one full cycle. Alot of people say it takes 6 weeks or so to see/feel a dramatic difference.
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              • #8
                I tried carb cycling via the Ultimate Diet plan, and lost the weight I was trying to lose, but spiraled down into the depression and binging right after and regained everything. I am going to try the 1 g per lb body fat on lifting days and 0.5 g g of carb on non-lifting days. I do horrible on the VLC. It is so odd. On one hand, I feel like I would do absolutely anything to lose 15 lbs, and then the evening comes, and I just go nuts eating fruit and honey (and if I am depressed enough other sugars). (Shrug) I'd give a lot to learn to feel good on low calories and low carbs, but I couldn't keep it up so far. And every time I drop the ball, it is soooo hard to have a low carb day again. I am fighting to do 120 g carbs today (training) and 60 g carbs tomorrow. Maybe I should try zero carb, maybe not touching carbs at all is easier than restricting carbs the way it is easier to fast than to eat low cal. Not that fasting is easy for me either. This whole hate food-love food is infuriating.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by camel View Post
                  So I had been hovering at about 10 pounds above my goal weight for a long time. (My goal weight is *just* inside of "normal" according to BMI charts, so its not a super lean goal. I'm 5'7" and 163 pounds, big feet, curvy, size 8-10) (2 years ago was 196 pounds)

                  For months I have been losing maybe 1/4 pound a week. Not horrible, but frustrating! However, I have recently tried a weekly cycle of VLC, high carb and fasting. I lost 2 pounds per week the last two weeks! I'm so excited, these are the most stubborn pounds!! I had to share:

                  Day one: under 20 carbs and fair calorie deficit (meat, eggs, fat, nonstarchy veggies)
                  Day two: under 20 carbs and fair calorie deficit (meat, eggs, fat, nonstarchy veggies)
                  Day three: practically zero carb - meat, fat, eggs only, big calorie deficit
                  Day four: fast until dinner (24 hour fast from last nights dinner), a fasted workout this day, a satisfying dinner.
                  Day five: 100-150 carbs and maintenance calories, or just above maintenance.
                  Day six: 50-100 carbs, just under maintenance calories
                  Day seven: 50-100 carbs, just under maintenance calories (I usually have a long walk on this day)

                  And then I repeat.
                  I also try not to snack between meals or after dinner.
                  I tried this after reading about the benefits of fasting, but that it is better to fast if you already are fat adapted and so the low and zero carb days help your body get more benefit and muscle protection going into the fast.

                  I'm into week three of this, so will report how I do after week three! Anyone else doing something simillar, or want to try this with me?

                  Edited to add: I forgot to mention, that normally when I am losing a lot I get very cold. This past couple of weeks I have been like a furnace! Especially on the higher carb days. So I take that as a good sign that my metabolism is revved up eating this way!
                  Very interesting. I've never really done a low carb version of primal at all....but I would love to lose 15 more lbs. Maybe this would be a good start. I'll be following along to see how you do
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                  • #10
                    Really interesting Camel. Thanks for the post.

                    I am just inside normal BMI having lost 14lbs since I started eating primally. I would love to lose another 7lbs but it is very slow now. I eat relatively low-carb as I have found even prior to following the PB that low-carb suits me. Now I'm wondering about following your carb-cycling plan.

                    Keep us updated please!

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                    • #11
                      Yes, the three low carb days are a bit hard, but I just tell myself "its just three days!". I actually find my hunger is really low after the first two days, which helps with the 24 hr fast on the fourth day. I do drink bone broth on the fast day, because it makes my tummy happy!

                      I tried VLC for extended periods before, but I found my weight loss stalled and I started to feel crappy and cold.
                      This way, I figure my body doesn't have time to adapt, and it really seems to respond to this schedule. Like I mentioned before, my body temp is way up and I feel great, so that is an added bonus!

                      I am patient, and I do know that slow losses are more likely to stay off, but I am very excited to get to my goal. Also, it seems that maintaining is much easier -- even if its just mentally -- than trying to lose.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Leida View Post
                        I tried carb cycling via the Ultimate Diet plan, and lost the weight I was trying to lose, but spiraled down into the depression and binging right after and regained everything. I am going to try the 1 g per lb body fat on lifting days and 0.5 g g of carb on non-lifting days. I do horrible on the VLC. It is so odd. On one hand, I feel like I would do absolutely anything to lose 15 lbs, and then the evening comes, and I just go nuts eating fruit and honey (and if I am depressed enough other sugars). (Shrug) I'd give a lot to learn to feel good on low calories and low carbs, but I couldn't keep it up so far. And every time I drop the ball, it is soooo hard to have a low carb day again. I am fighting to do 120 g carbs today (training) and 60 g carbs tomorrow. Maybe I should try zero carb, maybe not touching carbs at all is easier than restricting carbs the way it is easier to fast than to eat low cal. Not that fasting is easy for me either. This whole hate food-love food is infuriating.
                        I totally understand the love/hate relationship with food!
                        I know that everyone is different, but personally I do like the appetite suppression that goes along with VLC. It frees up a lot of mental energy spent fighting hunger.
                        I have been experimenting with fasting, and am still seeing if it works for me. I do notice that my appetite is increased in the days following a fast, but with this schedule that is accounted for with higher calorie and carb days after the fast.
                        I also have the higher days usually on the weekend when I am more likely to entertain or go out for a meal so that works out good for me.

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                        • #13
                          I guess I kinda decided to forget about the last 10lbs. I surrender. If this is as good as it gets for me, then hallelujah, because I don't have to expend much effort to maintain this weight that's for sure.

                          I was calorie-restricting using myfitnesspal for a while and that didn't give me any results other than to make me feel bad if I couldn't keep the calories down. I figured if the goal was 1200 then 1000 would be better. Yeah, well, that didn't work at all.

                          I noticed that I was not getting much protein each day, so I decided to drastically increase my intake of meat. This has left me feeling fantastic. Absolutely fabulous. Hunger under control, feeling strong, feeling like going for a run each day and today in my exercise class I actually tried hard instead of wussing out. Feels good to have thrown out the calorie tracking. I don't give a shit now.

                          This weekend I ate tons of carbs. I went to a potluck and at tons of the rice dishes, the beans and corn salad and some BEER! Ah yeah, life is good. Made my stomach fat. Oh well. A couple days back on the meat wagon and it's flat again. Effortless, I tell ya.

                          Meanwhile, my clothes are a little looser, even after they come out of the dryer. My weight is the same. My waist measures the same. Not only do I not give a shit anymore, I realize I'm not the boss and my body's gonna do what it's gonna do.
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                          • #14
                            I'm, "stuck," because I didn't want to lose another 20. Does that count if it's a choice? I just...well, got scared. I needed more time to get used to looking different. Plus at my age, my skin most likely needs some time to adjust. I think I'm ready to lose some more weight now, but haven't really buckled down and done it yet. Maybe next month.

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                            • #15
                              I do zero carbs 4 days at a time maximum.

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