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    If you're not primal too lose weight, how do you consume enough calories to maintain and/or gain weight without grains? I have been eating all day long, and I'm satiated (more like stuffed) but when I logged my food on the livestrong "my plate" website, it says I've only ate 837 calories, and that I still have 1765 calories left to consume (granted, I did miss breakfast today, but still I don't think that would have covered all of those calories).

    For a quick summary I ate a crap load of veggies with generous helpings of olive oil, and turnips, and chicken meat (including fatty drum stick), and strawberries.

    Thanks,
    Lily

  • #2
    If you're eating enough to be (beyond) satiated and you've got energy I don't see how a calorie count matters. A lot of veggies are energy sparse, so you could add protein and fat if you were really concerned, but I think you'd be better off not counting at all.

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    • #3
      Ummm...

      Meat?
      Fat?
      Veg?
      A Post-Primal PrimalPat

      Do not allow yourself to become wrapped up in a food 'lifestyle'. That is ego, and you are not that.

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      • #4
        Well, I would like to agree with you (I am not into calorie counting for most people), but one of my health goals is to gain weight (I'm really way too skinny)...so...that is why it matters...

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        • #5
          Eat more meat and fat...and more fatty meat. Maybe add an avocado each day to start. Also, give the switch to primal time to kick in. A lot of people find that they're full without a lot of eating when they switch over. It might have something to do with more stable blood sugar. You'll likely start feeling hungry and devouring all kinds of tasty stuff.

          EDIT - sorry, didn't see how long you've been a member so the "time" I mentioned probably doesn't mean anything unless you just recently came back.

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          • #6
            whenever i've counted calories, i usually end up in the 1800-2500 cal range. i find it hard if i cut out dairy, but it's totally possible to "go over" with no grains or sugar.
            my primal journal:
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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            • #7
              fat is the most calorie dense substance we can eat. eat more fat = eat more calories.

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              • #8
                I don't know how anyone can eat all day long and only reach 837 calories. I can eat that for breakfast. Here's how:

                Half pound ground beef
                2 eggs
                1 avocado
                1 bulletproof coffee (coffee with butter and coconut oil)
                1 regular coffee with half-and-half
                999 calories.
                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                • #9
                  Nuts

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                  • #10
                    Lily - do you weight you food? The "serving size" on labels is generally far smaller than most people think. Post the quantities and I'll load them up into a calorie counter to verify.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lily View Post
                      If you're not primal too lose weight, how do you consume enough calories to maintain and/or gain weight without grains? I have been eating all day long, and I'm satiated (more like stuffed) but when I logged my food on the livestrong "my plate" website, it says I've only ate 837 calories, and that I still have 1765 calories left to consume (granted, I did miss breakfast today, but still I don't think that would have covered all of those calories).

                      For a quick summary I ate a crap load of veggies with generous helpings of olive oil, and turnips, and chicken meat (including fatty drum stick), and strawberries.
                      The fact that you asked this question indicates you're not qualified to count calories, so don't. Your body will not violate any laws of science.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by js290 View Post
                        you're not qualified to count calories
                        i have a lot i could say about the original post, not all in a positive light... but what the fuck does that mean?

                        maybe you could answer with a link to ron rosedale, and a cryptically short line in your own words.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jakey View Post
                          i have a lot i could say about the original post, not all in a positive light... but what the fuck does that mean?

                          maybe you could answer with a link to ron rosedale, and a cryptically short line in your own words.
                          I have a feeling what he's saying is "eat (real foods) when you're hungry, let your body's natural appetite regulation mechanism take care of the rest".

                          In short though, for those who struggle to eat more - fattier meats, a bit in the way of starchy veggies, and perhaps a splash of olive or coconut oil in some of your cooking. Lean meats plus non-starchy veggies represent perhaps the most difficult diet to eat a lot on due to the sheer volume of food one has to consume. Adding a bit of fat and/or starch(depending on what one's goals are and how one's body responds) is probably what will help one get there.

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                          • #14
                            Fat, fatty fat. Buy fatty ground beef, fry it with a couple of eggs and top it off with a creamy mushroom sauce. If you're feeling primal, add a piece of roasted bone marrow to that. That will easily get you around 1500 calories. I had that last night and didn't feel full at all afterwards.

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                            • #15
                              Gaining muscle will get your weight up and get you hungrier

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