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  • #31
    Originally posted by Owly View Post
    I suggest working from the assumption that 95% of what fiercehunter says will make no sense and/or be blatant attention-seeking.
    Even though I totally know this, it still bugs me ocassionally....thanks for the reminder!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Iron Will View Post
      Yep what Primal Alien said. I eat about 1/2 cup of mixed unsalted nuts daily as my afternoon snack. They carry very high levels of minerals and they are a great way of getting them. That being said, they are also pretty high in antinutrients so you really do have to weigh the options. I eat them because they're very handy for me. If you are able to choose something that has less antinutrients in them that may be the better option for you. It all depends on how you react.

      On another note, I read a news report the other day about a Japanese guy who cut off his penis and nuts, cooked them and served them for appy's to paying guests.... Now that's REALLY nuts!!!!
      I think the "antinutrient" thing is overstated too. Especially if your diet is already balanced and of extremely healthy proportions. I see no real substantiation of the antinutrient theory in practice. I eat cashews regularly and they make me feel better and fill me with some extra healthy calories. It is a mistake to assume our ancestors avoided nuts. Especially when studies indicate the complete opposite.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Daydreamer View Post
        wut

        Eggs and avocados in the same category as nuts. What kind of sorcery is this.
        The things people come up with on this site....

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Nigel View Post
          Hunter gatherers ate a lot of hazelnuts in Scotland.
          In my opinion our ancestors ate nuts with some degree of frequency. This assumption that they avoided most nuts is silly and based on unsubstantiated rumors.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Primal_alien View Post
            I think the "antinutrient" thing is overstated too. Especially if your diet is already balanced and of extremely healthy proportions. I see no real substantiation of the antinutrient theory in practice. I eat cashews regularly and they make me feel better and fill me with some extra healthy calories. It is a mistake to assume our ancestors avoided nuts. Especially when studies indicate the complete opposite.
            Yep totally agree. If everything else is under control nuts aren't going to hurt you. Just making sure to give both sides of the equation. I like them and I eat them everyday. Haven't had an issue yet.

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            • #36
              I was wondering if peanut are more allergenic than other nuts (and why), or is it because they are more wildly consumed? My kid doesn't like almond butter, and I would get organic peanut for her (or make my own from fresh organic peanuts), but I keep thinking if this stuff can kill some humans, maybe it is not that good for all of us? or is it just silly?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Primal_alien View Post
                I think the "antinutrient" thing is overstated too. Especially if your diet is already balanced and of extremely healthy proportions. I see no real substantiation of the antinutrient theory in practice. I eat cashews regularly and they make me feel better and fill me with some extra healthy calories. It is a mistake to assume our ancestors avoided nuts. Especially when studies indicate the complete opposite.
                I agree as well. I don't soak my nuts, and I easily eat about 1/4-1/3 of my calories for the week from nuts. I'm still losing fat at 3000 calories/day on average
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                • #38
                  I don't understand why everybody is basing the quality of food a 100% of what grok ate. Sure we've adapted to things and eating like him is THE VERY BEST DIET. Maybe he ate nuts, maybe he didn't. What we really care about is whether nuts are healthy or not.

                  Another thing (kinda off topic) I don't understand is that people base the quality of food on how fast their weight loss is going or how they feel. Sure, feeling good could e a sign that your food is healthy. But back when the majority of my food was grains, ice cream and cookies, I was full of energy and felt absolutely great. Also I was never fat. So, this means eating grains cookies and ice cream is healthy?
                  well then

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                  • #39
                    But back when the majority of my food was grains, ice cream and cookies, I was full of energy and felt absolutely great. Also I was never fat. So, this means eating grains cookies and ice cream is healthy?
                    No, it means you are a young male.... Me, I am looking for food that keeps me from being hungry and from gaining weight. The rest is becoming increasingly insignificant.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Leida View Post
                      I was wondering if peanut are more allergenic than other nuts (and why), or is it because they are more wildly consumed? My kid doesn't like almond butter, and I would get organic peanut for her (or make my own from fresh organic peanuts), but I keep thinking if this stuff can kill some humans, maybe it is not that good for all of us? or is it just silly?
                      Prevalence of childhood peanut allergy varies a lot by country. Israeli infants eat a lot more peanut than UK or US infants and have much lower rates of peanut allergy. In the United Kingdom prevalence is estimated at 1.9%, in the United States at 1.4%, but in Israel at only 0.2%.

                      I would not use local average allergy statistics alone to change your child's diet. Shellfish allergy is also very common, but that does not mean no one should eat shrimp or clams. Conversely, if your daughter likes peanut butter, let her have it sometimes, but you don't need to feed it to her just because everyone else eats it.

                      There is an interesting article about the rise in children's food allergies here (to download the PDF use username grokscribd and password marksdailyapple),
                      Jerome Groopman, Medical Dispatch, “The Peanut Puzzle,” The New Yorker, February 7, 2011, pp. 26-30

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                      • #41
                        Well, we are in Canada, and basically, we are prohibited from bringing peanut butter anywhere where the kids are. I never really paid any attention to it, until I had a child. I know that one of our friend's child is allergic to peanuts but not other nuts. then, again, in her school there is a kid that is allergic to all nuts and even peas, so we are not allowed to pack any of it in her school box. I am just really confused. Interestingly, she does like peanut butter but not nuts or nut butters. I don't think it is essential, but it is a nice snack with veggie sticks.

                        Myself, I seem to prefer Brazil nuts lately, have a couple-three with my coffee. Yum.
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                        • #42
                          Buy them in-shell. Then you'll understand how tiring it would be for grok to eat even a handful of them. Oh, and no nutcrackers, use rocks to open them.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Bosnic View Post
                            Buy them in-shell. Then you'll understand how tiring it would be for grok to eat even a handful of them. Oh, and no nutcrackers, use rocks to open them.
                            I did this (I gathered wild almonds from a tree when I was in Sardinia) and used a big pot to bash them open since I didn't have a nutcracker...it was damn hard work, and not only was the gathering and bashing process time and energy consuming, but so was the clean-up process (pieces of shell rococheting everywhere made an annoying mess to deal with, until I figured out this activity was better done outside).

                            Took a really long time to end up with a small amount of nuts, and boy did I appreciate every.single.one.

                            That being said, I buy the nuts shelled because who wants to deal with that? I don't eat them myself, because i don't like nuts, but i do use them to make homemade coconut 'larabars' for my husband, who is always trying to increase his calories. I think nuts have some benefits, and if you're looking to increase calories and you prepare them carefully, the anti-nutrient thing shouldn't be much of a problem.I soak them overnight, and it's a once in a while thing. I think ANYTHING once in a while is fine, even peanuts and gluten (unless you have an allergy, of course.)

                            So Leida, if your daughter really likes peanut butter, once in a while really won't do her in. I mean, if she regards peanut butter as being a special treat, she's really in a good place. Most of us spent a lifetime depending on staples that are far unhealthier!

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