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  • #16
    Originally posted by Primal_alien View Post
    Another is that nuts are "empty calories". Please, most nuts are mini mineral farms. Look at the magnesium (very important mineral) content of some popular nuts like cashews and even peanuts. Not to mention the plethora of other minerals they are replete in.
    A peanut is not a nut; it's a legume.

    That being said, I agree that nuts aren't empty calories -- but I know that in my case, they are extremely easy to overeat, so I have to limit my quantities.
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    • #17
      Hunter gatherers ate a lot of hazelnuts in Scotland. Archaeologists have found large middens of roasted nut shells. Cooking the nuts makes them more digestible. Certainly "tastes" true with chestnuts!

      I used to snack a lot on nuts before trying to go primal. I have cut consumption of them right down now, but, I'll eat more again when I stop losing weight. At present I limit myself to two walnuts or an equivalent weight of other types. I just love the taste.
      Why use a sledge hammer to crack a nut when a steam roller is even more effective, and, is fun to drive.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mmsantos View Post
        I personally place nuts and eggs (and other things like olive oil and avocados) in the same category - a decent stomach filler when there's no alternative, but not a real replacement for fatty meat. In the words of J Stanton: "If you need to eat a can of nuts or a brick of cheese, you didn’t eat enough meat."
        wut

        Eggs and avocados in the same category as nuts. What kind of sorcery is this.
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        • #19
          If you are asking, you are probably eating too many nuts!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Primal_alien View Post
            There's a lot of misconceptions being thrown about here regarding nuts.

            The first, and most obvious is that they are higher in PUFA than any other fatty acid. Wrong!

            Cashews are similar to olive oil in fatty composition. And most other nuts have higher monounsaturated fat content than polyunsaturated fat content.

            Another is that nuts are "empty calories". Please, most nuts are mini mineral farms. Look at the magnesium (very important mineral) content of some popular nuts like cashews and even peanuts. Not to mention the plethora of other minerals they are replete in.

            They're also fairly high in antioxidants.

            My instincts tell me nuts are a primal food and should not be avoided like the plague.


            Yep what Primal Alien said. I eat about 1/2 cup of mixed unsalted nuts daily as my afternoon snack. They carry very high levels of minerals and they are a great way of getting them. That being said, they are also pretty high in antinutrients so you really do have to weigh the options. I eat them because they're very handy for me. If you are able to choose something that has less antinutrients in them that may be the better option for you. It all depends on how you react.

            On another note, I read a news report the other day about a Japanese guy who cut off his penis and nuts, cooked them and served them for appy's to paying guests.... Now that's REALLY nuts!!!!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JackieKessler View Post
              A peanut is not a nut; it's a legume.

              That being said, I agree that nuts aren't empty calories -- but I know that in my case, they are extremely easy to overeat, so I have to limit my quantities.
              Peanuts are about on par with almonds nutritionally. I understand peanuts are a legume and not a nut, but this is one case where primal/paleo have little justification. I understand peanuts have undesirable lectins, phytate and incomplete proteins, but so do almonds. Almonds actually have double the phytic acid content of peanuts, and the calories, lipid profile and nutritive content are virtually identical.

              I put this together just now.



              An interesting side-by-side comparison isn't it?
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              • #22
                I eat them. I have a serving of raw almonds or macadamias every few days and I use almond butter on celery. Didn't know cashews were a good source of Magnesium, may have to switch it up and buy those next. I usually have them in the context of lunch, so on a plate with some good meat source, lots of veggies, guac, olives, a slice of raw cheese etc. I like to have a variety of tastes and textures and they give me that crunch I would get from a cracker. Maybe at some point I will decide to be more paranoid about O6, etc. but for now I enjoy variety in my diet.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by fiercehunter View Post
                  Yeah I need the calories but come on you all- I'm pretty little and otoh no, I don't need the calories. I'm a hard gainer and will start a thread on that where we, the hard gainers can commiserate away from all of you. It's almond butter, like in a jar. I pour the oil off but something tells me it's not good for me.
                  I don't get this...on one hand, 'everybody feel jealous of me, I'm so little I need the calories' then on the other hand 'woe is me, I'm a hardgainer, I need your pity.' What kind of weird game is this? And BTW, I think you must be pretty confused about the definition of a 'hardgainer'.


                  Bodybuilding Advice for Hardgainers - How to Determine if You Are a Hardgainer

                  While the typical person gets great results on a caloric intake that equals their lean body mass times 12, the hardgainer is better served by taking in as much as 24 calories per pound of total bodyweight (as opposed to lean body mass). Therefore, if you are a hardgainer and weigh 150 lbs, your caloric intake will be 3600 calories (150 x 24). Your total amounts of carbohydrates per day will be in the order of 450 grams of carbs, your protein will be 225 grams and your fats will be 100 grams of good fats per day. You can take all of this in 6, 7 or even 8 meals.

                  Do you need the calories or don't you?

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                  • #24
                    Choco, what is your view on aflatoxins? I feel like those are a lot worse than anything else found in any other nuts.
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                    • #25
                      Peanuts and almonds both contain alfatoxins. Peanuts typically get it worse, my guess is because they're produced in way larger quantities due to popularity so they're probably not stored with as much care (as with anything mass-produced). The only peanut butter I'll eat is Trader Joe's organic so I'm not too concerned with alfatoxins as TJ's stuff is usually quality - their olive oil, honey and ground beef all passed the bootleg/pollen/pink slime tests with flying colors, so I have faith in their PB. I eat very little peanuts anyway, but I'm not a big almond fan, either. The nuts I love are cashews, macadamias, pecans and walnuts. I eat very little nuts in general so alfatoxins don't concern me.

                      If you're the kind of parent that makes your kid PB&J every day in their lunch with Skippy, then I'd be concerned. That stuff's garbage. Delicious garbage, but still garbage.
                      Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 06-28-2012, 10:22 AM.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BestBetter View Post
                        I don't get this...on one hand, 'everybody feel jealous of me, I'm so little I need the calories' then on the other hand 'woe is me, I'm a hardgainer, I need your pity.' What kind of weird game is this? And BTW, I think you must be pretty confused about the definition of a 'hardgainer'.


                        Bodybuilding Advice for Hardgainers - How to Determine if You Are a Hardgainer

                        While the typical person gets great results on a caloric intake that equals their lean body mass times 12, the hardgainer is better served by taking in as much as 24 calories per pound of total bodyweight (as opposed to lean body mass). Therefore, if you are a hardgainer and weigh 150 lbs, your caloric intake will be 3600 calories (150 x 24). Your total amounts of carbohydrates per day will be in the order of 450 grams of carbs, your protein will be 225 grams and your fats will be 100 grams of good fats per day. You can take all of this in 6, 7 or even 8 meals.

                        Do you need the calories or don't you?
                        I suggest working from the assumption that 95% of what fiercehunter says will make no sense and/or be blatant attention-seeking.
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                        • #27
                          No more nuts for me, I've seen the light. I never really ate nuts in any quantity till last year; it's amazing what you can learn from associating with the primal/paleo crowd.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Owly View Post
                            I suggest working from the assumption that 95% of what fiercehunter says will make no sense and/or be blatant attention-seeking.
                            +1. I'm a n00b and from the forum-stalking over the last few weeks THAT ^ statement is pretty apparent.
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                            • #29
                              All in a day's work of being the fierce hunter.
                              Originally posted by KKDMB View Post
                              +1. I'm a n00b and from the forum-stalking over the last few weeks THAT ^ statement is pretty apparent.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by fiercehunter View Post
                                No more nuts for me, I've seen the light. I never really ate nuts in any quantity till last year; it's amazing what you can learn from associating with the primal/paleo crowd.
                                I think basing your choices on what other's say instead of personal research is a very VERY bad approach. If it was up to what other's say I would not be very healthy at all as per my own personalized, uniquely designed specs.

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