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    So I had a cholesterol panel done on Friday and got the results today. I am having trouble making sense of the numbers, but a couple of them seem bad:

    Total Cholesterol (normal 50-200): 224
    Triglycerides (normal 0-250): 73
    HDL (good cholesterol 35-90): 54
    LDL (bad cholesterol below 130): 155

    Next to the LDL number, my doctor wrote "watch your diet".

    Sigh.

    I wonder if these numbers don't improve, if she is going to try and pressure me to take meds and I absolutely do not want to do this. I am feeling great on my Paleo/eat real foods way of life and don't want to add back in "healthy whole grains". Has anyone ever lowered their numbers while maintaining a Paleo diet? Would adding more fruits and vegetables and maybe cutting back a little on the butter and red meat help? I am open to any and all suggestions!

    Typical day of eating:

    B: tablespoon of organic nut butter OR whey protein shake OR 2-3 pieces of bacon with an egg

    L: some kind of meat + potatoes or rice OR a big salad with protein

    S: (if working out in afternoon) KIND bar OR fruit + small piece of cheese or nuts

    D: same deal as lunch

    S: 1/2 c of plain greek yogurt + 1/2 c berries

    LOADS of water and coffee, sometimes coconut milk or half and half in the coffee

    Thanks!
    "For the great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—deliberate, contrived, and dishonest—but the myth—persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic ... we enjoy the comfort of opinions without the discomfort of thought."
    ---John F. Kennedy

  • #2
    I've heard unfiltered coffee can raise LDL.

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    • #3
      Your cholesterol looks fine, if you want to lower LDL, increase healthy carbs but its not necessary with your numbers.

      Please please please please please listen or read to this series

      Chris Masterjohn on Cholesterol and Heart Disease (Part 3)

      (should I put that link in my sig?)
      Primal since March 2011

      Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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      • #4
        Hmmm - I do drink a fair amount of unfiltered coffee - all I have is a plunger pot and an espresso machine here at home.

        Increasing the carbs is something I have been doing the past couple of weeks, so will continue that.

        I will definitely check out the Chris Masterjohn link - I hear he is very highly regarded.
        "For the great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—deliberate, contrived, and dishonest—but the myth—persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic ... we enjoy the comfort of opinions without the discomfort of thought."
        ---John F. Kennedy

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        • #5
          Those numbers don't look bad to me. Especially with trigs under a hundred.
          It's become an almost cliche post, but if your trigs are under a hundred, you're most likely looking at large fluffy LDL.

          I'd rather see you raise your HDL a little than lower your LDL.

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          • #6
            So, if his numbers came back normal based on medical standards, would that be good or bad?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by john_e_turner_ii View Post
              So, if his numbers came back normal based on medical standards, would that be good or bad?
              I could be mistaken, but I believe that before the statins came out, his numbers would have been considered in the normal range.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by NWPrimate View Post
                Those numbers don't look bad to me. Especially with trigs under a hundred.
                It's become an almost cliche post, but if your trigs are under a hundred, you're most likely looking at large fluffy LDL.

                I'd rather see you raise your HDL a little than lower your LDL.
                Thanks, that makes me feel a little better. Just seeing those numbers was a bit of a shock.

                I remember that oatmeal was supposed to help raise HDL. I used to eat it a lot, but got out of the habit when I transitioned to Paleo. Maybe I should add it back in a couple times a week?

                I've also read that exercise effects HDL, and I think I'm good there. I lift heavy things 3X per week,
                do Poloquin-style intervals 2X per week, and long easy cardio 1X per week.
                "For the great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—deliberate, contrived, and dishonest—but the myth—persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic ... we enjoy the comfort of opinions without the discomfort of thought."
                ---John F. Kennedy

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                • #9
                  I guess my point is that I don't even know what good numbers are considered in here anymore. When people post that they have lowered their cholesterol numbers, everyone says "good job". When others have their cholesterol increase dramatically, everyone says "those are good numbers".

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                  • #10
                    I should clarify, I am a girl. Not sure if that matters with the ranges.
                    "For the great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—deliberate, contrived, and dishonest—but the myth—persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic ... we enjoy the comfort of opinions without the discomfort of thought."
                    ---John F. Kennedy

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                    • #11
                      It looks like you're right in the sweet spot when it comes to TC

                      http://perfecthealthdiet.com/wp/wp-c...holesterol.jpg

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                      • #12
                        Well, I didn't realize that you were a female, so the chart is not be quite as applicable, but still interesting.

                        I'm no expert, and take anything you read from me or anyone else here with a grain of salt.

                        That said, always remember that statins have NEVER been proven to reduce the risk of heart attack in women.
                        Last edited by NWPrimate; 04-05-2012, 03:05 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by john_e_turner_ii View Post
                          I guess my point is that I don't even know what good numbers are considered in here anymore. When people post that they have lowered their cholesterol numbers, everyone says "good job". When others have their cholesterol increase dramatically, everyone says "those are good numbers".
                          A valid point. We have to remember that there is a lot we don't know.

                          I would be much more concerned if trigs were higher and HDL was lower. If I saw someone with my old numbers, I would jump in and say that something is wrong. To me, these numbers look pretty sweet and definitely nothing for the OP to get anxious about. She can read more, discuss with her doctor and make appropriate choices, but it's not as though she's in imminent danger because here TC is over 200.
                          Last edited by NWPrimate; 04-05-2012, 03:14 PM.

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                          • #14
                            I hope my numbers are that good when I next get tested. And my doc can write all the Rxs he wants but they're going into the round file on my way out the door.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks guys. I think my doctor was most concerned about the LDL, as that's what she wrote the "watch your diet" next to. I will try a few dietary things to see if I can move the needle on that number and make the doc AND me happy.
                              "For the great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—deliberate, contrived, and dishonest—but the myth—persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic ... we enjoy the comfort of opinions without the discomfort of thought."
                              ---John F. Kennedy

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