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    I have given it a try, I went from vegan (eating ONLY vegetables, NO grains, only salads, moderate fruite, some nuts/seeds, some oils) yet I gained weight. Then I tried paleo for about a week and had horrible gas and bad digestion, so gave up on that, went back to eating only vegetables and havent lost a single pound. In fact I've gained another! I don't get it, I run 5 times a week (4 miles), I do yoga and weights, I do bikram even sometimes twice a week! What is it about my diet that isnt working? Most people LOSE weight eating ONLY vegetables! My nutritionist that I once worked with once said that you always have to balance carbs (even veggies) with protein- but I dont know. How is it that raw foodists are always thin eating only vegetables?

    Someone explain the science and convince me that paleo is the way to go- personal experiences anyone eating exactly like I've been eating?

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    OK first thing.. you switch diets way too fast. One week is not long enough for your body to adjust and for you to start seeing results. Your body was probably not used to eating meat I gather.. or it could have been eggs?? Your gut needs to build up more bacteria to digest it. This takes time. So its best to slowly increase the amount of foods that you haven't been eating.

    Your question is incredibly general. There is no question that humans thrive on animal products, we have for a millenia, and there is compelling evidence that our brains got bigger when we started consuming more meat. They even did bone analysis on our ancestors and found them all to have eaten meat. It's clearly what we have evolved to thrive on. There are also some things like Vit B12 that you can only get from animal products. Animal products contain a lot of good fat and protein without any anti-nutrients that are found in beans. That is really high level.. I suggest reading the primal blueprint
    Primal since March 2011

    Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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    • #3
      Oh one more thing, paleo is not just about losing weight... you can lose weight on paleo.. but the most important thing is achieving optimal health by eating a nutrient dense diet full of vitamins and fats that are needed to make you thrive.

      You can lose weight on a twinky diet.
      Primal since March 2011

      Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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      • #4
        I also highly recommend that you view the success stories on the main site.. go to home page then click on success stories
        Primal since March 2011

        Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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        • #5
          Thanks so much. I have the book and have read it numerous times. I just happen to love vegetables and for some reason have thought over the past year that eating vegan was the way to go. However, now that I am gaining weight it doesnt seem to be working. I know for a fact I eat about 1200 calories a day! I exercise too, and I know its not just muscle I am gainging so it is confusing to me!

          I want to be healthy trust me, thats why I went vegan to begin with and thats why i eat LOADS of vegetables every day. I have been fascinated by both ends of the spectrum, which is why I continually research one view, then switch to paleo, then switch back. its non stop and I can't figure out how to make this all work for me and see results!

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          • #6
            You can eat plenty of vegetables when you are doing Paleo
            Primal since March 2011

            Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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            • #7
              Meat contains loads of vitamins in a package that you can absorb them well.
              Primal since March 2011

              Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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              • #8
                You need to give your body time to adjust to a new diet. Start by making bone stocks with a little bit of chicken or beef in it and lots of veggies. The enzymes necessary to digest meat may be low since you haven't eaten meat in a long time, so add it in slowly. Also try adding grass-fed butter or coconut oil to your vegetable preparations.
                Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                • #9
                  2 heaping mounds of veggies and a nice steak = very primal!
                  Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
                  PS
                  Don't forget to play!

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                  • #10
                    lol yes, try it for longer than a week. esp going from vegan to paleo your body might need a second to adjust. give it time

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                    • #11
                      I have friends that adhere to Paleo, vegetarian and vegan diets. Overall, my paleo friends including myself, eat more vegetables than the vegetarian and vegan groups. My vegetarian friends do eat donuts and cupcakes though, things that Paleo folk eat little or none of. I am not saying you are eating those things. Just pointing out that Paleo focuses on quality and nutrient density.
                      "If man made it, don't eat it" - Jack Lallane

                      People say I am on a "crazy" diet. What is so crazy about eating veggies, fruits, seafood and organ meats? Just because I don't eat whole wheat and processed food doesn't make my diet "crazy". Maybe everyone else with a SAD are the "crazy" ones for putting that junk in their system.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by VeggieLover View Post
                        Thanks so much. I have the book and have read it numerous times. I just happen to love vegetables and for some reason have thought over the past year that eating vegan was the way to go. However, now that I am gaining weight it doesnt seem to be working. I know for a fact I eat about 1200 calories a day! I exercise too, and I know its not just muscle I am gainging so it is confusing to me!
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                        1200 calories, running, lifting etc - you're not eating ENOUGH! Up that by 100 or 200 calories and you might be surprised.
                        Christine
                        Wag more, bark less

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                        • #13
                          This could also be a factor...

                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread38576.html

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                          • #14
                            What do you weigh? How tall are you? Are we talking vanity weight or are you obese?

                            I started out obese and it took me 5 weeks before I saw any weight loss. And I suffered those 5 weeks trying to run 4 times a week (3-5 miles each day) and walk and hike all the other days. It was hard to adjust to a diet low in carbohydrates compared to my previous diet full of grain products. I actually quit all the running and stopped "power walking" and just took it easy. That's when the weight loss finally started.

                            But the diet only got me to normal. Getting to vanity weight is taking a lot longer and maybe won't ever happen. But I don't care anymore. I feel terrific. I think I look pretty good. I'm going to focus my energy now on having fun. Running is fun again. Hiking and backpacking is fun now that it's spring again. I'm done trying to eat below 1200 calories. I'm convinced it's a horrible mistake. You have to have enough calories to WANT to exercise. I WANT to run because it's fun and I feel exuberant and bursting with happiness and energy, not because I "have to" to "lose weight." Phooey on a life full of flogging myself like an old mule to work harder.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • #15
                              Vegan = Healthy is your first mistake. It's not and don't try to rationalize that it is. If you dropped Primal after a few days it shows you have no backbone and will fail at any lifestyle you try. Suck it up and feel a little crappy for a couple of weeks, it will pass and you will feel fine. You need a dose of reality. I eat 1200 calories at a sitting and I'm feeling great and have lost weight. I also follow the lifestyle, not just the diet. You should too if weight loss is you goal.

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