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    I'm on day 10, and I've gone this far staying below 175g of carbs. No rice, no pasta, no bread or legumes. I've been eating fruit everyday, but only a couple of pieces, ie a banana and an apple. I eat a ton of veggies and a decent amount of protein via meat and fish.

    I've never been a sweet eater. I rarely ever crave it. But somehow this week I've been craving it, mainly chocolate. I assume it's because my body is really starting to miss the extra sugar from the lack of carbs.

    Today was the first time I gave into the cravings and had a small candy bar. Much to my surprise, I didn't enjoy it at all. Maybe it was the guilt. I was happy to not enjoy it.

    Next time I will go for some dark chocolate, but I couldn't find any in the store.

    Does anybody have a good explanation for these sudden chocolate cravings?

    Aside from that, I'm happy to say it is going well for me. I feel much slimmer, and my energy levels are starting to really level out. I don't have those low blood sugar/dizzy/weak spells when I used to go too long without gorging on processed carbs. Still no carb flu (knock on wood).

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    Some people truly are addicted to sugar/carbs and can only really zap that bug by going vlc for a period of time. Definitely make meat the center of each meal to provide satiety and greater nutrition. Veges are fine, but I'd nix any of the other stuff for a while. Maybe a couple weeks.

    The other option is that you are still fearful of fat and not getting enough overall calories (actually this is more likely). Prefer the fatty bone in cuts of meat and don't be afraid of coconut oil and butter for cooking your vegetables in. Fat is a terrific source of fuel and this is a huge point of how the PB keeps you healthy is by being a good fat burner.
    Last edited by Neckhammer; 03-28-2012, 07:36 PM.

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    • #3
      Then there's the whole psychological side of it. The minute you're not supposed to have something, you automatically want it more.
      Durp.

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      • #4
        I've found that magnesium citrate helps my chocolate cravings.

        also, I recently stumbled across chocolate coconut oil. It is scrumptious!

        The brand is called Something Pure
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
          Some people truly are addicted to sugar/carbs and can only really zap that bug by going vlc for a period of time. Definitely make meat the center of each meal to provide satiety and greater nutrition. Veges are fine, but I'd nix any of the other stuff for a while. Maybe a couple weeks.

          The other option is that you are still fearful of fat and not getting enough overall calories (actually this is more likely). Prefer the fatty bone in cuts of meat and don't be afraid of coconut oil and butter for cooking your vegetables in. Fat is a terrific source of fuel and this is a huge point of how the PB keeps you healthy is by being a good fat burner.
          I haven't been fearful of fat at all. I eat eggs in the morning, sometimes bacon. I had a fat juicy fatty steak yesterday. I've also been cooking with butter, which I had stopped doing a few years back. I also have used coconut oil for a few years now. I'm definitely not afraid of it.

          I've been averaging about 100g of fat in my diet the last week. I'm not sure if that's high/low/or just right.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GrokyBalboa View Post
            I've been averaging about 100g of fat in my diet the last week. I'm not sure if that's high/low/or just right.
            This is my first official posted here on MDA. I came across this after having some pasta cravings due to the fact that my wife was cooking up a ton of ravioli while I was in the kitchen cooking up my salmon. But don't worry, I fought off the temptation with a little bit of will power

            You say you've been averaging about 100g of fat/day, correct? Have you been using fitday.com or another site to help keep track? I just made it through my first month and I've been tracking everything mostly because it's been fun to crunch the numbers. Using a tool like this has definitely helped me to keep my numbers as accurate as I can. It's way better than when I would try and guesstimate.

            Now, I don't know what your goals are in terms of weight loss, maintenance, or weight-gain, and I don't know your size and activity level. BUT, I can tell you that I'm 5'9'', 150 lbs, and pretty active overall and my average daily intake of fat is closer to 180g/day. My calorie % breakdown has been like this during the last month (according to fitday.com): Fat 54% , Carb 16%, Protein 29%, and 3,000 calories/day. Looking at your profile picture, I would imagine that 100g/day is way too low.

            Good luck! Keep up the good work!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TBakeRunner View Post
              This is my first official posted here on MDA. I came across this after having some pasta cravings due to the fact that my wife was cooking up a ton of ravioli while I was in the kitchen cooking up my salmon. But don't worry, I fought off the temptation with a little bit of will power

              You say you've been averaging about 100g of fat/day, correct? Have you been using fitday.com or another site to help keep track? I just made it through my first month and I've been tracking everything mostly because it's been fun to crunch the numbers. Using a tool like this has definitely helped me to keep my numbers as accurate as I can. It's way better than when I would try and guesstimate.

              Now, I don't know what your goals are in terms of weight loss, maintenance, or weight-gain, and I don't know your size and activity level. BUT, I can tell you that I'm 5'9'', 150 lbs, and pretty active overall and my average daily intake of fat is closer to 180g/day. My calorie % breakdown has been like this during the last month (according to fitday.com): Fat 54% , Carb 16%, Protein 29%, and 3,000 calories/day. Looking at your profile picture, I would imagine that 100g/day is way too low.

              Good luck! Keep up the good work!
              I feel privileged to be the target of your first post! Haha

              Man, ravioli right in your face, huh? That's just cruel. I've been lucky to have a GF who is trying to adhere to my eating habits, at least when she cooks for me. And when I do lunch at my mom's, she's been making it extra primal for me too.

              What I use to crunch my numbers is the MyFitnessPal app on my iphone. Without that app, there is no way I could keep track. If I have to log onto a computer to track my food every time, there is no way I could keep up. The iphone app makes it easy because it's always on me. Plus, there's a barcode scanner which makes it easy to scan in foods without searching. I've tried a couple other food tracking apps, but this one is by far the best. MyNetDiary is a close second, but their food list is a good bit smaller. I think MFP has over a million different food entries. Livestrong has a great app too, but it doesn't have a barcode scanner.

              Well, I'm 6'2" 220 Lbs.(Started at 228 17 days ago). I'm pretty active. I'm on my feet most of the day working. I work out 4 times a week. I like to do outdoor activities like mountain bike. My goal is to get down to 200 LBS and maintain that weight so I can get back into running and all the other outdoor activities without putting so much strain on my left knee which has a rebuilt ACL and just a tiny slither of meniscus left on the inside.

              So yeah, my fat intake is probably still too low. I guess I'm still trying to get over my fear of fat and my lifelong belief that "bad" fats are the devil and should be avoided at all cost. How are you getting to 180g of fat?

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              • #8
                Do you know if you actually craving sweet or fat in the chocolate? Do you feel like trying eating some avocado or butter instead? Or do you crave plain starch like white potato? Sometimes, if you eat too much lean protein with veggies only and not enough fat or starch (from tubers) you mistake sweet craving for either fat craving of plain starch.
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                • #9
                  I'm still new to this, 7 weeks in. I did have the same issues with the chocolate cravings. At first I had a bag of chocolate chips (dark chocolate) in the fridge and I would eat a handful (about 8 chips) a day. Then it got to the point I didn't crave them but once in a great while (at this point my husband had eaten the rest of that bag). I did get a craving last week, I stopped and got a bar of dark chocolate and ate a small piece. My family each had their share and it was gone. I still struggle with it and not sure why it's chocolate for me either and not soda or something, since I rarely ate chocolate before. I can't handle the milk chocolate it's too sugary thank goodness it's only the dark.

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                  • #10
                    oh, Forgot to add: this week upping my avocado consumption to every other day or half an avocado a day and cooking my eggs in left over bacon grease has really helped.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Leida View Post
                      Do you know if you actually craving sweet or fat in the chocolate? Do you feel like trying eating some avocado or butter instead? Or do you crave plain starch like white potato? Sometimes, if you eat too much lean protein with veggies only and not enough fat or starch (from tubers) you mistake sweet craving for either fat craving of plain starch.
                      Well it's week 3 for me, and my chocolate craving is gone really. I do eat sweet potatoes after my workouts when I have them. My protein hasn't been that lean. I eat ground beef, steak a good bit. I eat eggs every morning cooked in coconut oil and butter. I haven't been factoring the butter and oil in my diet, so my fat numbers are probably a little bit higher at the end of the day. Still, I have days where my registered fat intake is only 75 grams. Like I said, I'm still trying to adjust to this whole fats are okay thing.

                      Originally posted by healthyphysique View Post
                      I'm still new to this, 7 weeks in. I did have the same issues with the chocolate cravings. At first I had a bag of chocolate chips (dark chocolate) in the fridge and I would eat a handful (about 8 chips) a day. Then it got to the point I didn't crave them but once in a great while (at this point my husband had eaten the rest of that bag). I did get a craving last week, I stopped and got a bar of dark chocolate and ate a small piece. My family each had their share and it was gone. I still struggle with it and not sure why it's chocolate for me either and not soda or something, since I rarely ate chocolate before. I can't handle the milk chocolate it's too sugary thank goodness it's only the dark.
                      Originally posted by healthyphysique View Post
                      oh, Forgot to add: this week upping my avocado consumption to every other day or half an avocado a day and cooking my eggs in left over bacon grease has really helped.
                      I also have found the milk chocolate to be pretty blah now. I don't know what it is. I bought a bar of dark chocolate (85%), and man that is NASTY! I think I'm gonna try 70%-75% because 85% leaves a very bitter aftertaste.

                      What was screwing me up for a little while is my GF has these tiny bite size candy bars individually wrapped on top of the fridge. Every now and then I would eat one, but I really wasn't enjoying it. I was just eating it to curb my cravings. But she ate them all, thank God.

                      It is truly amazing how your taste buds are connected to your brain, and once you change your eating habits, your taste buds change too.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GrokyBalboa View Post
                        I'm on day 10, and I've gone this far staying below 175g of carbs. No rice, no pasta, no bread or legumes. I've been eating fruit everyday, but only a couple of pieces, ie a banana and an apple. I eat a ton of veggies and a decent amount of protein via meat and fish.

                        I've never been a sweet eater. I rarely ever crave it. But somehow this week I've been craving it, mainly chocolate. I assume it's because my body is really starting to miss the extra sugar from the lack of carbs.

                        Today was the first time I gave into the cravings and had a small candy bar. Much to my surprise, I didn't enjoy it at all. Maybe it was the guilt. I was happy to not enjoy it. .
                        You're eating too much fruit- most of the year you should have no more than about 1 serving a day if that. Cut back till it gets over 80 degrees out. Eat all the fruit you want this summer but be aware that fruit is filled with sugar and will fuel sugar cravings most of the year. Go pick up some blueberries and raspberries which are low in sugar so you can learn the difference between high and low sugar fruit.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GrokyBalboa View Post
                          How are you getting to 180g of fat?
                          My fats are coming from eggs, bacon/steak/dark meat, butter, olive oil, salmon/cod/sardines, avocado, and a new nuts every once in a while. Now that it's been a month, I'm going to try adding even more fat with the occasional use of full-fat heavy cream, perhaps some full-fat European yogurt and some cheese. If anyone has anything else to add, let me know so I can add it to my grocery list.

                          As far as chocolate cravings, I used to LOVE brownies for dessert, still would like to eat them. But, I've found that having just a tiny portion of a dark chocolate bar (85-90% cocoa) helps to curb the cravings. I might eat one little square every couple days if I'm tempted to down a bowl of cereal or scarf down some freshly baked brownies. Have I mentioned that my wife does not support my new nutrition goals? That's my biggest problem by far!

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                          • #14
                            hmmm, i never had a sweet tough either. hardly ever consumed chocolate. no sweet cravings since going totally primal. of course i do eat tons of fruits so maybe that is keeping it satiated.

                            the other day out of curiosity i ate a big cup of fruits sherbet style mixed with condensed sweet milk, plus they must have added more sugar cause it was very sweet. I didn't crash afterwards, but I did notice that the next day my hunger was more intense than usual. No specific cravings but for the first time I wasn't looking forward to eating primal. wanted something extra. but it wasn't strong enuff to pull me back to the dark side. lol

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                            • #15
                              There is so much talk around here of fat and carbs that I played around with fat and carbs but it turned out to be the overlooked protein that I was lacking. I've upped my consumption of meat and man my appetite is satisfied and I don't crave nothin' and feel better than ever. Happy, strong, fit, just want to run and jump and laugh.
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