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  • Am I stubborn or silly?

    So, all this primal/paleo business has made me really interested in how I"m nourishing myself. And I've been trying to figure out my daily needs, which I know are nothing like the US government's RDI numbers. So, I've been reading through my books on this lifestyle, and I found some interesting info in Robb Wolf's The Paleo Solution.

    On page 219 (on my Kindle, I don't know if the page numbers are similar in the printed book), Tables 3 and 4 list the daily needs for a 25 year old female who consumes 2200 calories a day. Even though I'm actually a 40 year old female, this was the closest I've found so far, so I'm trying to extrapolate. The macro needs are listed as follows: Protein - 217 grams/38%, Fat - 100.3 grams/39%, and Carbs - 100 grams/39%.

    I'm not even sure how to eat to get near these levels of protein. They seem very high to me. When I adapt those recommendations to my caloric needs (around 1700 per day), these are the numbers I get. 170 grams protein, 76 grams fat, 85 grams carbs. Even when I supplement with whey protein and have a tuna packet for a snack, I can't get more than 120 grams protein without eating when I'm not hungry.

    And do my carbs really need to be that low? I normally get around 30% each of carbs and protein and 40% of my diet is fat. I'm all for tweaking things, but I don't see how to eat *that much* protein in my normal two meals a day. I'll have to eat a dozen eggs in addition to my regular meals. I don't see how it's happening. I could add another meal, but I'm not hungry for more, and I feel like it's overeating. And I don't want to eat if I'm not hungry.

    Am I being stubborn/obstinate, or is trying to extrapolate these number to my own needs a stupid idea?
    Motherhood: When changing from pj pants to yoga pants qualifies as 'getting dressed'.

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    Usually protein is 1g per 1lb of lean body mass. As for carbs/fat that depends on your activity level. If you aren't hungry then I dont see the need to eat more to hit some number. You can try carb cycling.
    Primal since March 2011

    Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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    • #3
      Go by your own needs and how you feel. Yes, it is important to research and try different things but one way is not the right way for everyone.
      I think it depends on the lifestyle of the person but the 1g per 1lb of lean body mass method stated already by activia is more of how I go. Even .75 isn't too low as long as you get enough fat. Too much protein isn't necessarily the best thing for you. If you're full you're done, don't keep eating to match numbers.

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      • #4
        Go and sign up for the Cron O meter and it will give you figures based on the type of diet (paleo is a choice) or you can put your own % of protein/fat/carbs. Then you enter whether you want to lose 1 or 2 lbs pr wk or maintain, your age, sex etc and what exercise you are doing.

        I am finding it very useful guide for keeping me on track. It is an indicator of how many calories (and those figures in %) which may be right for you. Once you have it you can tweak it.
        Last edited by Analog6; 03-23-2012, 05:39 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sanctus Real View Post
          ...Protein - 217 grams/38%, Fat - 100.3 grams/39%, and Carbs - 100 grams/39%...
          Numbers don't add up, something is wrong.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by primalkyle View Post
            Numbers don't add up, something is wrong.


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            • #7
              ^^ you crack me up

              Oh and he's right they dont add up lol
              Primal since March 2011

              Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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              • #8
                I think the grams of protein is the actual protein content. Meat is full of water, so the weight of the meat is much higher than the weight of the protein within.
                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                • #9
                  Is there a problem with your diet as it is? Are you not getting the results that you want?

                  I see no problem with 40-30-30. Why would that be a problem?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                    Is there a problem with your diet as it is? Are you not getting the results that you want?

                    I see no problem with 40-30-30. Why would that be a problem?
                    Except that its 40/40/40
                    Primal since March 2011

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by primalkyle View Post
                      Numbers don't add up, something is wrong.
                      ...Pulling out my Kindle. It's no doubt me!

                      Yeah, my bad. Carbs should be 129 grams, 23%. That changes all my questions about are the carbs too low, anyway. They're not. I obviously copied the numbers for fat twice. Cause I'm bright like that. Lemme revise this, so you can see the numbers I'm actually looking at.

                      Protein - 217 grams/38%, Fat - 100.3 grams/39%, and Carbs - 129 grams/23%
                      Motherhood: When changing from pj pants to yoga pants qualifies as 'getting dressed'.

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                      • #12
                        BTW, thanks for the link, Analog6. I'll check it out!
                        Motherhood: When changing from pj pants to yoga pants qualifies as 'getting dressed'.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                          Is there a problem with your diet as it is? Are you not getting the results that you want?

                          I see no problem with 40-30-30. Why would that be a problem?
                          It's not a problem, I guess I'm just feeling so comfortable with what I'm doing, I feel the need to try to perfect things, experiment with different recommendations. All the suggestions of everyone who has written a book differ somewhat, otherwise the books would all look alike and there'd be no point to reading Sisson or Wolf if you've already read Cordain, KWIM?

                          Maybe I just think it's too easy, I must be doing something wrong, lol.

                          Originally posted by activia
                          Except that its 40/40/40
                          She was talking about my levels, not the ones from Wolf that I copied wrong.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sanctus Real View Post
                            It's not a problem, I guess I'm just feeling so comfortable with what I'm doing, I feel the need to try to perfect things, experiment with different recommendations. All the suggestions of everyone who has written a book differ somewhat, otherwise the books would all look alike and there'd be no point to reading Sisson or Wolf if you've already read Cordain, KWIM?

                            Maybe I just think it's too easy, I must be doing something wrong, lol.



                            She was talking about my levels, not the ones from Wolf that I copied wrong.
                            Mark's book is different. There is more to health then diet.

                            You are stressing yourself out with your prefection. This is going to make it hard for you to lose weight. You need to choose something and go with it. If you eat whole foods you can't go wrong.
                            Primal since March 2011

                            Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sanctus Real View Post
                              It's not a problem, I guess I'm just feeling so comfortable with what I'm doing, I feel the need to try to perfect things, experiment with different recommendations. All the suggestions of everyone who has written a book differ somewhat, otherwise the books would all look alike and there'd be no point to reading Sisson or Wolf if you've already read Cordain, KWIM?

                              Maybe I just think it's too easy, I must be doing something wrong, lol.
                              So, um, you have a system that you're comfortable with and is working well? Not seeing the problem here.
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