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    So every time I try to fast, I forget! Just for a moment I am presented with a situation where I'll just eat something without thinking about it. I was going to fast today and at 11am my sister had bought a new coconut butter and I was like "oh I wanna try that brand," opens draw, grabs spoon, scoops coconut butter up, puts in mouth swallows, REMEMBERS.

    This has happened every time Ive tried to fast. I'm not hungry, I'm not weak or dizzy or anything but I just eat without thinking... Grabbing a countertop plum, opening the fridge and picking up a slice of steak off a plate, nibbling on basil leaves in my garden etc etc. Ive never been able to complete a planned fast! Does this happen to anyone else? Or does anyone have any suggestions regarding how to overcome this problem?

    Thanks!

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    You need to not eat between meals. If you never eat between meals, you'll never break your fast except consciously
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    • #3
      hmmm that is an odd one. You'll just need to be more mindful about it. Put a post=it note somewhere where you will see it all day... reminder in your phone maybe? Outlook reminder every hour??
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      • #4
        Originally posted by peril View Post
        You need to not eat between meals. If you never eat between meals, you'll never break your fast except consciously
        This. Instead of planning a fast, try working on eliminating all snacking first. If you train your mind and body to not eat unless you are sitting down to a full meal, I think you will find that fasting happens more naturally. I have fasted several times now, but I rarely do it "on purpose"... I just don't eat between meals anymore, and if I don't have time, resources, or appetite for a good meal, it turns into a fast.

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        • #5
          Well it's like anything you agree to do in advance, it goes on your calendar and is part of your schedule. Maybe write it down in your appointment book to remind yourself. It sounds like IF may not really be for you though so you probably won't want to do it every day.

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          • #6
            There is a real mindset/focus that has click in to do a true fast. I took me 3 days of prep for this one. I didn't just wake up one morning and decide to fast. I've tried the *think Ill fast today* route and never managed to get farther than 6-8 hours.

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            • #7
              Perhaps you should wear a hairband or a bracelet on the wrist of the hand you use. Something to remind you.

              I know it's very easy to mess up like that. I was making food for a party last week and not taste testing the foods to see if the seasonings were correct was so hard. I'm not a snacker at all, so the mentioned solution in the above posts in my case isn't the answer.
              I love to cook and people expect a certain level of expectation from my food. I really felt like I had to tie my hands behind my back and believe in my instincts.

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              • #8
                I agree about stopping the snacking first. I did that before I attempted fasting and it really was no problem at all and I feel so much better doing it.

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                • #9
                  Do you actually want to fast? Why? If you ate at 11 am, you most likely fasted a good interval for Intermittent Fasting (assuming you are a female). I dunno, your 'failures' to fast sound like doing something fun, actually, rather than binging. In fact, your happy attitude seems actually healthier to me than obsessing about the exact # of hours and keeping fast on your mind every frigging second of the day. A few basil leaves only "break" the fast for purists. Leangain allows under 50 calories during fasting window. Obviously, a spoon of coconut butter is not a great thing, but you hear from people now and again who believe they are fasting and they drink bullet proof coffee. So, if you really keen on fasting, after you have put a bite into your mouth, well, slap yourself on the forehead and keep going as if nothing has happened till you are hungry enough to eat a meal.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Leida View Post
                    Do you actually want to fast? Why? If you ate at 11 am, you most likely fasted a good interval for Intermittent Fasting (assuming you are a female). I dunno, your 'failures' to fast sound like doing something fun, actually, rather than binging. In fact, your happy attitude seems actually healthier to me than obsessing about the exact # of hours and keeping fast on your mind every frigging second of the day. A few basil leaves only "break" the fast for purists. Leangain allows under 50 calories during fasting window. Obviously, a spoon of coconut butter is not a great thing, but you hear from people now and again who believe they are fasting and they drink bullet proof coffee. So, if you really keen on fasting, after you have put a bite into your mouth, well, slap yourself on the forehead and keep going as if nothing has happened till you are hungry enough to eat a meal.
                    I wondered about this. I saw someone say she was using broth to get through a fast, and my initial thought was "But you're ingesting nutrients, so how is that a true fast?"
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                    • #11
                      I like to plan my fasts a day or two in advance. Generally I'll put an alarm on my phone at 4pm for Thursday that says "Last Meal." I make sure to eat and then I'm set. I choose 4pm because by 11pm or so I'll be a little hungry, so I can sleep through any hunger pangs. I wake up to another alarm on my phone that says "Fasting!" with a reminder at noon just in case I feel like a snack. Friday at 4pm I break the fast.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NikhilT View Post
                        I like to plan my fasts a day or two in advance. Generally I'll put an alarm on my phone at 4pm for Thursday that says "Last Meal." I make sure to eat and then I'm set. I choose 4pm because by 11pm or so I'll be a little hungry, so I can sleep through any hunger pangs. I wake up to another alarm on my phone that says "Fasting!" with a reminder at noon just in case I feel like a snack. Friday at 4pm I break the fast.
                        When you say you prepare for a fast 2 days in advance, what does that mean?
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                        • #13
                          I wondered about this. I saw someone say she was using broth to get through a fast, and my initial thought was "But you're ingesting nutrients, so how is that a true fast?"
                          There is really no such thing as 'true' fast. Your limitations are determined by your goals. Want to limit your food intake for the day, but don't trigger limbic hunger and insulin response & feel Okay? Then 20 cals cup worth of broth or tiny bit of cream in coffee or some other insignificant intake won't "break" your fast and interfere with your goals (unless it does).

                          On the other hand if your goal is to psychologically prove to yourself that you can live without putting anything in your mouth for 48 hours, well, then you would literally go without any food and water.

                          People do juice fasts, hot pepper and lemon juice ones (famous master-cleans), this and that fasts, whatever suits their particular need and makes them feel that they achieve the FAST. Heck when I was 18, there were folks who drunk their own urine while fasting to heal themselves in addition to making anemas from that same valuable source of salts and all.

                          It is no different from any other concept. It's just a name, and the individuals put their spin on it.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                            When you say you prepare for a fast 2 days in advance, what does that mean?
                            I don't PREPARE per se. I just plan ahead that I'm going to fast within a certain 24 hour time span. For example, on Tuesday I may decide to fast Thursday 5pm to Friday 5pm. So I'll just make sure I eat particularly fat-heavy before the fast for extra satiety, I'll tell my friends if I'm going out so nobody pushes me to drink or whatever, etc.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Leida View Post
                              Do you actually want to fast? Why? If you ate at 11 am, you most likely fasted a good interval for Intermittent Fasting (assuming you are a female). I dunno, your 'failures' to fast sound like doing something fun, actually, rather than binging. In fact, your happy attitude seems actually healthier to me than obsessing about the exact # of hours and keeping fast on your mind every frigging second of the day. A few basil leaves only "break" the fast for purists. Leangain allows under 50 calories during fasting window. Obviously, a spoon of coconut butter is not a great thing, but you hear from people now and again who believe they are fasting and they drink bullet proof coffee. So, if you really keen on fasting, after you have put a bite into your mouth, well, slap yourself on the forehead and keep going as if nothing has happened till you are hungry enough to eat a meal.
                              Fasting until 11am isnt much of a fast for me- that's just not having enough time for breakfast. I want to fast because I've heard other's reports about their skin getting better with a day or 2 of fasting. I haven't found any research to back it up (usually my actions are very evidence based) but I've broken out so badly since going off the pill that I really want to try anything and the theory is that apparently your body redirects its efforts away from your digestive system and towards fixing other things if you fast completely for a while. I'm not overweight or anything so it's not for weight loss.

                              I don't forget it that day or that hour but I mindlessly do something that i don't think of as being "eating" per say. I guess stopping snacks between meals in general would make fasting easier but that seems pretty effortful to do every day just to ensure the success of a fast once in a while. I'm thinking that maybe if I find my retainer (from after having braces) I'll put that in so that I won't mindlessly eat. But I'm really surprised that this doesnt happen to anyone else!!!

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