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    I'm smack dab in the middle of my first week. It hasn't been too tough just yet. However, today is the first day I started really looking forward to having a cheat meal. Should I have a cheat meal the first week?(Sunday) Should I have cheat meals at all? Right about now I'm craving a big bowl of spaghetti for Sunday, but I'm scared to death to even eat pasta. It's my main weakness when it comes to processed carbohydrates. Any advice welcome.

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    In this case I can only tell you what I did when I was in your situation. I decided to "test the water" by having a small amount of a previous non-paleo problem food and seeing how I reacted to it. In my case it was chocolate and marshmallow ice cream. I had a small bowl, enjoyed it, and moved on. Now, before switching to real foods my dinner would have been the whole container of ice cream, which is why I ended up a portly 225 or so pounds. Some people are able to go pure paleo right away and never look back, but for others it's a hard transition and a more gradual approach achieves the best results. Eating a healthier diet is awesome, but if a sudden change is stressing you out and making you upset then some self-experimenting and smaller steps might be the way to go. Just give 100% a shot, and adjust from there until you gradually end up eating all or mostly real foods and feeling great.
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    • #3
      Pasta is addictive to some people. I got a friend who was a huge pasta lover when she was younger and gave it up cold when she went Primal. She hasn't gone back since because she's afraid it'll get it's claws back in her. If Pasta is your weakness, STAY AWAY from it.

      For myself, it's cheesecake. I love cheesecake to death, it's my weakness, and this past weekend I ate some for the first time in many, many months; I was ill for the next day or so, and totally regretted it.

      In my experience with Primal, I didn't let myself cheat for the first month or so. I wanted to build up good habits and not have a setback early on because I know it'd discourage me. After I got those good habits down, I allowed small, small cheats, but I really don't cheat much at all anymore.

      It depends on you. I'd recommend staying away from the pasta and, if you want to cheat, cheat sensibly. If you think you can handle it and cheat with Pasta, good luck to you.
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      • #4
        Pasta is NOT part of the primal/paleo way of eating. This is a way of life. Eating real food is what its all about. I wouldn't go there so soon myself. You haven't even adapted to eating real food yet. Are you changing because of health problems, weight issues? If so you REALLY need to avoid ALL processed foods period. It is the only way you'll get your body to get back to its natural balance and repair the damage that has been done.

        That said, it is a blue print. You decide how you will incorporate it all into your life. The food is beyond delicious once you learn to really cook. No restaurant food comes close. To talk of cheating makes it sound like you are doing something you don't particularly like. This isn't a fad diet.

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        • #5
          how about never on stuff like taht ...

          this is a lifestyle for most of us not something like a diet we "cheat" on
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          • #6
            I'd say give it 100% (or your best) for 21 days. Then, if you still feel like cheating, knock yourself out.

            Try some spaghetti squash and meat sauce.
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            • #7
              It will probably be fine to have a cheat meal over the weekend so long as you understand it may fuel cravings and you may need to reduce/minimize carbs for a few days afterwards. You could cheat Saturday and Sunday then get back on vegetables, protein and higher fat on Monday for a few days. This is what I do and it really seems to work.

              Wheat is bad news and should be not be considered an ideal food to cheat with.

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              • #8
                we are forgetting that crap can stay in your system for 1-2 weeks depending on which expert you listen to

                dont cheat, reap the benifits of the lifestyle! and find ways around it like substitute foods.. im nearly 8 months in and was raised italian, i dont think about pasta twice and it was in my meals prior 1-2 times a day without fail (hence my chrons disease)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Forever Young View Post
                  Pasta is NOT part of the primal/paleo way of eating. This is a way of life. Eating real food is what its all about. I wouldn't go there so soon myself. You haven't even adapted to eating real food yet. Are you changing because of health problems, weight issues? If so you REALLY need to avoid ALL processed foods period. It is the only way you'll get your body to get back to its natural balance and repair the damage that has been done.

                  That said, it is a blue print. You decide how you will incorporate it all into your life. The food is beyond delicious once you learn to really cook. No restaurant food comes close. To talk of cheating makes it sound like you are doing something you don't particularly like. This isn't a fad diet.
                  I understand that, but I'm going from a lifetime of eating processed carbs to this. Just quitting cold turkey is easier said than done.(As you all already know). I've tried to cut it out cold turkey before, but I ended up just breaking down and going on a pasta/carb binge. I'm trying not to repeat that same thing by at least giving myself a little taste once a week, until my body starts to reject it. But I'm more than willing to not do that if you experienced PB'ers don't recommend me do so.

                  I'm doing it mainly to keep weight down and because halfway through the book, I really believe in the science. Not because I'm overweight by a lot. I'm very active, 6'2", 225 LBS., fairly muscular frame. I snowboard and would like to get back into running, but I have knee issues, and at 225, it just makes it worse on my joints. I'm trying to get down to the 200 LBS. range and maintain that. I also have inflammation issues, and I'm hoping this way of eating helps with that.

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                  • #10
                    I am not sure "planned" cheat meals are primal/paleo. The 80/20 rule is so that you can fit in on work nights out etc....
                    If you focus on the "cheat" meal that is all you will focus on. If you are on a night out and slip the 20% says move on and don't worry.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dirlot View Post
                      I am not sure "planned" cheat meals are primal/paleo. The 80/20 rule is so that you can fit in on work nights out etc....
                      If you focus on the "cheat" meal that is all you will focus on. If you are on a night out and slip the 20% says move on and don't worry.
                      That makes sense. You guys caught me at a very weak moment...post-work....tired....craving junk!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GrokyBalboa View Post
                        That makes sense. You guys caught me at a very weak moment...post-work....tired....craving junk!
                        That actually speaks to a point I was going to make. Cook up lots of Primal friendly food beforehand and then take as much as you think you will need to get through the day at work....and then pack a little bit more!! If you don't eat it all, you can always bring it home, add into a later meal, or just use it to build meals for the next day.

                        But, by having an adequate (actually a MORE than adequate) supply of good Primal food with you whenever possible will go a long way to fight through the cravings.
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                        • #13
                          Cheat meals that contain carbs do destablize the blood sugar/insulin/eicosanoids/Zone whatever- you can do a lot of things to combat that but the easiest and best thing is to drop the carbs for a few days. Just a little tip as you start on your journey.

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                          • #14
                            I don't plan to have 'cheat meals' any longer. Since adopting this WOE, I simply follow it to the best of my ability. If I stray--and it is getting to be less and less all the time--I just get back to business when I'm done. I LOVE how Primal makes me feel and that has helped me to stick with it more and more. My family is eating more Primal all the time. Hang in there--it gets better with time and the benefits are completely worth it!!

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for all the advice. You guys talked me off a ledge so to speak. It's challenging, as I'm in South Louisiana, where it's all about good eating and tons of processed carbs. I'm definitely going against the grain. Luckily, I have a good buddy down here that's been on the plan, and he's sort of my "sponsor" for my addiction.

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