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  • How damaging is a huge fruit binge early on?

    Ugg! I am going on 2 weeks now and have been doing pretty good. I feel like I have passed the worst of the low carb flu and even seen some weight loss. I have not once slipped up on grains but just tonight I went a little over board and ate almost half of our fruit supply. 2 pears, 2 apples, a large grapefruit, a huge bowl of mixed berries and to top it off, some celery dipped in peanut butter. This was right after dinner. Not only do I feel sick and in pain but I feel like a failure and am wondering just how much back sliding this colorful dessert caused.

    My main concern is the issue on how our bodies slowly begin to create appropriate pathways to burn fat for fuel instead of carbs. My body is still in such a transitional stage. Will the production of those fat burning enzymes start all over now? I guess I need a little hope that this is just a minor set back.

    Thanks for any help here!
    Staring weight-160 (Dec '11) * Current weight-145 * Goal weight-130

    Primal since March '12, dairy free (except butter), no fruit, no sweeteners, 50 carbs average daily

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    I wouldn't worry too much about it, tbh. You've had a good 2 weeks and then had a slip up, which is hardly that bad anyway as it's fruit, which is okay in moderation. I'm not sure about how far it'd set you back biologically, would probably be too many variables to give an accurate figure. I'm a big fan of averages myself. So if you gorge on a load of fruit that equates to, say, 150g carbs, in 2 weeks that's added about 10g of carbs to your daily total. No big deal. You certainly haven't undone 2 weeks of effort in one evening.

    I'd be more worried about dipping celery in peanut butter though. Not because they're particularly bad foods either, just that it sounds like a horrible combination!

    The bigger problem is probably how you feel about it mentally. DO NOT start beating yourself up about it. Pointless and counter-productive. We all slip up from time to time, even those hardcore few who claim to be 100%ers. I'm a devout foodie and will partake in small amounts of very un-primal foods from time to time. It fits into my 80/20 and, you know, life's for living. If your only slip is a 2-weeky fruit session and a bit of peanut butter, you're doing great.
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    • #3
      I wouldn't worry about it either.

      Physically, you'll be fine in no time (no more feeling sick, etc), and honestly, this is not something to freak out about. Might do good to figure out why you did it, because if you weren't satisfied, you may need to rebalance your nutrients.

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      • #4
        Nothing to worry about. The worst of it is the peanut butter- I wouldn't keep that in the house.
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        • #5
          My stomach usually makes me pay when I go overboard with the fruit... but it is hard not to with the strawberries starting to come into season.

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          • #6
            Draw a line through it and move on, don't beat yourself up.
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            • #7
              I think all it will do is delay keto adaptation by a day. You could probably have a bowl of berries and cream every day instead and feel less deprived.
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              • #8
                I would not stock up on fruit till June if I were you. Eat what you have then just buy some berries till it warms up.

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                • #9
                  Where can I find out more information on Keto-Adaptation? I have a VERY stubborn 10-15 pounds of fat to drop and have assumed that the lower in carbs I go the easier it will be for me to do so-hence the panic over my fruit bowl episode. Right now I strive to be around 50 carbs a day or less. Am I correct to assume that the lower I go in carbs the faster my body will adapt to burn fat? Sorry for the subject switch on everyone!
                  Staring weight-160 (Dec '11) * Current weight-145 * Goal weight-130

                  Primal since March '12, dairy free (except butter), no fruit, no sweeteners, 50 carbs average daily

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                  • #10
                    My only salvation against fruit is not touching them, no matter what. I promised myself that I will eat berries from my garden in the summer, and that's it. Otherwise your 2 apples and 2 pears are a laughing stock compared to my fruit binges. I start eating fruit, I just can't stop. When I don't eat fruit at all, eventually not having becomes not wanting (takes about a month). This morning I was peeling and slicing six kiwis for my child's school project, and that's after washing and cutting up strawberries for my folks' breakfast, and I am still recovering from a sugar binge 1.5 weeks ago... I was ready to cry, but I know how bad my sugar addiction is and the only way to keep appetite and mood level is to avoid all sweet flavors, which, unfortunately, includes fruit. if there is one thing I am envious of, it is of folks who do not have the huge sweet tooth/sugar addiction!

                    At least I have a half-decent solution for nut butters. I simply make eggplant caviar, it is very similar in texture and appearance to the nut butters.
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                    • #11
                      Thank you Leida. I think I might be in the same boat with the sugar addiction. It took several attempts for me to get off of grains and then my body went crazy over the heavy cream I was previously able to control with no problem. So now that I am cream free it seems my body is screaming for fruit. From the moment I awoke this morning my body has been begging for anything sweet. Especially grains. My body is wanting carbs so badly that the chain reaction from my fruit binge last night seems to have awoken a monster. So when you say you have to avoid all sweet flavors do you even mean like stevia sweetened coffee or tea?

                      I was on the fence about adding a few more carbs to make it a little easier for me but I know that the more carbs I eat the more I want. I'm still searching for my magic number but so far it seems the lower the better. I just need to beat down the monster once again. Drown it in some fat for the day.
                      Staring weight-160 (Dec '11) * Current weight-145 * Goal weight-130

                      Primal since March '12, dairy free (except butter), no fruit, no sweeteners, 50 carbs average daily

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by glossy View Post
                        Where can I find out more information on Keto-Adaptation? I have a VERY stubborn 10-15 pounds of fat to drop and have assumed that the lower in carbs I go the easier it will be for me to do so-hence the panic over my fruit bowl episode. Right now I strive to be around 50 carbs a day or less. Am I correct to assume that the lower I go in carbs the faster my body will adapt to burn fat? Sorry for the subject switch on everyone!
                        Have you already lost weight, or is it just those pounds you are trying to lose?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by glossy View Post
                          Where can I find out more information on Keto-Adaptation? I have a VERY stubborn 10-15 pounds of fat to drop and have assumed that the lower in carbs I go the easier it will be for me to do so-hence the panic over my fruit bowl episode. Right now I strive to be around 50 carbs a day or less. Am I correct to assume that the lower I go in carbs the faster my body will adapt to burn fat? Sorry for the subject switch on everyone!
                          Actually that depends. If you go all out from the beginning and have no ill effect then that is great and you should do just fine, however there are some people that don't switch over so easily. For those that have had issues this can help explain a bit why slowly lowering carb consumption may be a better idea Going Low-Carb too Fast May Trigger Thyroid Troubles and Hormone Imbalance | drcate.com

                          I should have prefaced this with Dr. Cate reports 1000's of her patients have had absolutely none of these issues dropping carbs immediately. This is for the small subset that has had some glitches.

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                          • #14
                            You sound like you need to do the leptin reset. Dr. Jack Kruse explains why a lot if carbs & fruit is bad news in the winter. Getting rid of the fruit till June will help you- you don't need it.

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                            • #15
                              when i started it wasnt uncommon for me to eat a lb of berries ... cut back more when i noticed i might lose faster without em

                              dont beat yourself up over it

                              i would however say it might be best to eat more berries than other fruits .. at least it has been to everyone i personally know myself included
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