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    Was just wondering what kind of milk is in half n half?? Is it whole milk or skim milk??
    I heard HWC cream is healthier than regular whole milk but wasn't sure about Half n half???

    I am looking for something to put into my coffee in the morning, but am trying to cut my calories back a little bit as I have stopped losing weight.


    Thanks guys!!!!

  • #2
    half light cream and half whole milk

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    • #3
      It's half whole milk and half cream. If you're looking to cut calories, it of course has an advantage over cream, assuming you use the same amount of each.

      I think the "cream is better" mentality is from when everyone thought carbs were totally evil and that eating more fat was always better. Sometimes lower fat higher carb IS better, but not always.
      Last edited by yodiewan; 03-16-2012, 06:29 AM.

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      • #4
        Thanks guys!!!

        I heard milk gets broken down into lactose more quickly than cream???

        Maybe I"ll pick up some half n half today.


        Thanks again!!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kiwigal View Post
          Thanks guys!!!

          I heard milk gets broken down into lactose more quickly than cream???

          Maybe I"ll pick up some half n half today.


          Thanks again!!!
          milk has significantly more lactose then cream. Cream has almost none.
          Primal since March 2011

          Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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          • #6
            Originally posted by yodiewan View Post
            It's half whole milk and half cream. If you're looking to cut calories, it of course has an advantage over cream, assuming you use the same amount of each.

            I think the "cream is better" mentality is from when everyone thought carbs were totally evil and that eating more fat was always better. Sometimes lower fat higher carb IS better, but not always.
            Actually this is not really the case. It's not about the carbs. The reason is more due to the lactose content, also to do with the processing that occurs to make it low fat. Also if you want nutrient absorption you need the fat.
            Primal since March 2011

            Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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            • #7
              You should read the ingredients on the half-and-half. Not all half-and-half is the same. Some has a lot more artificial things, and if you get it from a grocery store, they do not necessarily label it as ultrapasturized, which it may very well be. It's safer to get heavy cream or half-and-half from the healthfood store, somewhere that has foods clearly labeled ultrapasturized. It'll usually be in a glass container and it'll be hard to use it all before it goes bad. But it's better for you.
              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kiwigal View Post
                Thanks guys!!! I heard milk gets broken down into lactose more quickly than cream???
                It's not that milk is broken down into lactose, but rather that the lactose is more prevalent.

                Whole milk contains water, fat, protein and sugar.

                When heavy cream is skimmed off the top, it contains less of the protein and sugar, while concentrating the fat.
                It's not just a matter of carbs, as lots of people have issues with lactose (the sugar), and dairy proteins are not necessarily well tolerated and kind of controversial. The proteins and sugar in dairy are actually quite insulin-stimulating, which is not something you want in the weight loss phase.

                I think you'll get more bang for your buck pouring heavy cream into your coffee as opposed to half and half.
                You don't have to use very much and it makes it so creamy and delicious.

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                • #9
                  So if Heavy Whipping cream isn't broken down in lactose, why isn't it allowed on Whole 30???

                  Just curious I guess???

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                  • #10
                    Milk isn't broken down into lactose, lactose is a sugar found in milk.
                    Some people are intolerant to lactose, as they lack lactase, which is necessary to break lactose into simpler sugars.
                    If you ever see ase at the end of a compound, you know that it's function is breaking something down into simpler forms.
                    An ose suffix at the end of a compound indicates that it's a sugar.

                    If you lack the gene to produce lactase, you won't be able to digest lactose.

                    Heavy cream is going to contain trace amounts of lactose, but much less than milk or half-and-half would. Just as butter, which is concentrated cream without the buttermilk (leftover liquid after making butter from cream) has even less sugar and protein than heavy cream.

                    Even for those who are not lactose intolerant, the proteins (especially casein) can be problematic. Casein avoidance is my main reason for avoiding delicious cheese, which is basically free of lactose.

                    My limited understanding of the whole 30 is going 30 days without foods that are often problematic for people or 30 days without neolithic foods. To have a perfect "paleo" diet, one wouldn't consume dairy products.

                    I don't drink milk anymore and limit my cheese consumption, but my mind and body (not to mention taste buds) love dairy fat, so it's definitely on the menu for me. It's all about personal customization. There's no "one size fits all".
                    Last edited by NWPrimate; 03-16-2012, 03:23 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Let me echo the sentiments of most here. It's not just about the carbs with low-fat dairy. These days I don't do much actual dairy, but when I do it's definitely the stuff that's on the high fat end of the spectrum. If you want to limit calories, then limit the AMOUNT of it, don't just mindlessly reach for the "low fat" variety.
                      Re-focusing on the Primal Lifestyle in 2012!

                      Starting: 221.0lb, 29.5% BF (1/9/2012)
                      Latest: 208.9, 26.1% BF (3/19/2012)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                        heavy cream or half-and-half from the health food store ... It'll usually be in a glass container and it'll be hard to use it all before it goes bad. But it's better for you.
                        My Straus Creamery heavy whipping cream in a glass jar from WF never goes bad before I use it up. I put it in coffee and tea on a daily basis and I cook with it -- Alfredo sauce, root vegetable gratins, frittatas. Two of us go through 3 pints per week.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kiwigal View Post
                          Thanks guys!!!

                          I heard milk gets broken down into lactose more quickly than cream???

                          Maybe I"ll pick up some half n half today.


                          Thanks again!!!
                          I haven't seen anything called half n half here. I get Naturalea organic full fat non-homegenised milk from the supermarket. As I only have it in my coffee in small amounts I don't stress over the carb or lactose content (obviously if you're allergic to lactose it might be a different story).

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                          • #14
                            k I went and got a big carton of organic heavy whipping cream. We shall see how the weight loss goes in the next week.

                            I am prone to a lot of sinus infections so I'm wondering if this will be better than whole milk???

                            Thanks!!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Martha View Post
                              My Straus Creamery heavy whipping cream in a glass jar from WF never goes bad before I use it up. I put it in coffee and tea on a daily basis and I cook with it -- Alfredo sauce, root vegetable gratins, frittatas. Two of us go through 3 pints per week.
                              That's the kind I get but I have to consume the whole pint myself. If I only put it in coffee it goes bad before the bottle is empty. This week I made whipped cream and layered it in big goblets with various berries. Yum!
                              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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