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  • Grain-fed Beef - Eating 2 pounds per day. Dangerous?

    I've been eating grain-fed beef, (chuck, top-blade), from the grocery store as my main source of calories. On a typical day I eat 1.5 to 2.5 pounds. I know that grass-fed is better, but I can't afford it.

    My question: Since I cannot afford grass-fed beef, should I try to eat other types of meat rather than use grain-fed beef as my main source of calories?

    Note: I try to balance my omegas by eating canned sardines and canned salmon regularly. If I don't get enough fish in any given day, then I supplement with omega 3 pills. To make sure that they are not spoiled, I occasionally bit into one to check for a rotten taste. So far, I have not come across a rotten tasting omega 3 pill.

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    Originally posted by ASC View Post
    I've been eating grain-fed beef, (chuck, top-blade), from the grocery store as my main source of calories. On a typical day I eat 1.5 to 2.5 pounds. I know that grass-fed is better, but I can't afford it.

    My question: Since I cannot afford grass-fed beef, should I try to eat other types of meat rather than use grain-fed beef as my main source of calories?

    Note: I try to balance my omegas by eating canned sardines and canned salmon regularly. If I don't get enough fish in any given day, then I supplement with omega 3 pills. To make sure that they are not spoiled, I occasionally bit into one to check for a rotten taste. So far, I have not come across a rotten tasting omega 3 pill.
    I would just emphasize buying the leaner cuts and looking to source some grass-fed tallow, which is usually very inexpensive.
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    • #3
      i don't think grain-fed beef is a big nutritional problem, at all. i also don't think that omega3 pills hold a candle to canned fish you mention, and you should stick to those.

      but i'm writing to ask why you're eating 2.5 lbs of beef each day. why?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jakey View Post
        i don't think grain-fed beef is a big nutritional problem, at all. i also don't think that omega3 pills hold a candle to canned fish you mention, and you should stick to those.

        but i'm writing to ask why you're eating 2.5 lbs of beef each day. why?
        To be honest, I'm not sure what else I should eat in order to get the calories I need in a day, (2,400 to 2,800 calories/day) Even with eating 1.5 to 2.5 lbs of beef per day, my weight is stable. I don't want to lose any weight at this point.

        More details about my diet and activity level in this thread: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread49711.html

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ASC View Post
          To be honest, I'm not sure what else I should eat in order to get the calories I need in a day, (2,400 to 2,800 calories/day) Even with eating 1.5 to 2.5 lbs of beef per day, my weight is stable. I don't want to lose any weight at this point.

          More details about my diet and activity level in this thread: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread49711.html
          Why don't you add some potatoes or something? If you're just looking for safe calories to fill out your meals, starch is a lot cheaper than meat.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Uncephalized View Post
            Why don't you add some potatoes or something? If you're just looking for safe calories to fill out your meals, starch is a lot cheaper than meat.
            For a couple of reasons:

            1. I'm under the impression that keeping carbs below 100 grams per day is optimal.
            2. I'd like to gain some lean muscle mass so I want to keep my protein intake at 1 - 2 grams per pound of body weight. (I'm currently 165 lbs, and targeting 200 to 230 grams of protein per day.) Even with the amount of meat, I still supplement with protein shakes to get to this level of protein.

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            • #7
              you do not need 200 to 230 grams of protein a day. bodybuilding magazines and forums are responsible for this crap, that's totally crazy. anyway, for pure calories, fat wins. heavy cream and macadamia nuts can give you calories. 2.5 lbs of meat a day, and you'll start to feel that in the wallet soon. it's just kind of... overkill.

              potatoes and starch are great, but relatively calorie poor. i eat about a pound of sweet potatoes a day, and that's only about 400 calories. very filling tough, and crucial for muscle gain.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sihana
                I see you are in CA. Do you have a Trader Joe's or a Sprouts/Henry's near you? They sell grass-fed beef at comparable prices, when you consider 1lb of grass-fed is a lot more calorie dense than 2lbs of grain-fed.

                Just an option.
                Grass fed beef has less fat and calories than grain fed.
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                • #9
                  i don't think grain-fed beef is a big nutritional problem

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                  • #10
                    Is the grain fed you are eating conventional? Meaning is it factory farmed with no restrictions as to steroid/growth hormones, antibiotics? If so then it IS a problem!! Don't get me wrong here. Unless we live in a bubble we are going to eat some of this stuff. If you go out to eat you can't avoid it. But I would NEVER buy it for home use. I aim for grass fed beef. If its not readily available I will settle for beef that contains no antibiotics or growth stimulants. Yes they are grain fed and there are problems with that. But these products are a step above conventional meat. To the OP, that is a lot of meat everyday. If conventional meat is as bad as it seems, you are not doing yourself any favors. And I second the whole you DO NOT need anywhere near the amount of protein as has been touted by the fitness industry. I bought into that for some time. I now eat a good amount of protein compared to the average SAD diet but I don't stress over it at all. If I happen to have a couple of meals that are low in protein, so be it. It hasn't affected my strength or muscle mass in any way. The body can only use so much protein at a time. More than that amount, over time will likely be deposited as fat.

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                    • #11
                      You could check out eatwild.com for local farmers that produce grass fed beef.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sihana
                        when you consider 1lb of grass-fed is a lot more calorie dense than 2lbs of grain-fed.
                        i'm not sure how you figure that one...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ASC View Post
                          For a couple of reasons:

                          1. I'm under the impression that keeping carbs below 100 grams per day is optimal.
                          2. I'd like to gain some lean muscle mass so I want to keep my protein intake at 1 - 2 grams per pound of body weight. (I'm currently 165 lbs, and targeting 200 to 230 grams of protein per day.) Even with the amount of meat, I still supplement with protein shakes to get to this level of protein.
                          There is no reason to avoid carbohydrate, especially at your maintenance level of calories.

                          1.1-5g/lb of lean body weight of protein AND carbohydrate a day is what I'd recommend you consume. So, if you're 180 lbs and 12% body fat, your lean mass is 88% of 170 lbs, or 150 lbs. That would have you consuming a daily average of 150-225g of protein and carbohydrate a day. I would recommend you break that up based on your workout schedule. Protein would always remain in the 150-225g range every day, but carbohydrate intake would fluctuate. On days you don't exercise, you'd eat around 100g of carbohydrate a day. Meanwhile, on days you lift heavy things, you'd eat more like 300-350g of carbohydrate a day. Adjust your fats accordingly - rest days would be significantly higher fat, while on workout days, you want to keep fats low. Generally the lower the better, and I keep it under 30g on those high carb days.

                          There's no need for 99% of the population to eat under 100g of carbohydrate. Ketogenic diets are unnecessary and muscle-wasting unless you have a rare condition, like diabetes (which isn't caused by consumption of carbohydrate but rather individual foods, chemicals, omega 6 fats and constant snacking), cancer or epilepsy.

                          BTW, 1.5-2lbs of beef a day isn't a lot. I weigh 140 lbs and I eat 1.5 lbs of meat a day. If I can't fit meat into my macros, I fill it up with eggs, yogurt or cottage cheese. I always try and eat my weight in grams worth of animal-based protein every day, and often go pretty far over. Over 150g of protein is typical, and I eclipse 200g at least once a week.
                          Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 03-13-2012, 09:29 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jakey View Post
                            i'm not sure how you figure that one...
                            It's wrong. Grass-fed beef is actually leaner than grain-fed beef. Calories will be msotly comparable, with grass-fed having slightly less than grain-fed. I think she meant "more nutrient dense." Grass-fed beef is more nutrient dense than grain-fed beef, but it's not that big of a difference. Not enough to justify a 200+% price increase in my current state, anyway.
                            Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 03-13-2012, 09:30 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                              There is no reason to avoid carbohydrate, especially at your maintenance level of calories.

                              1.1-5g/lb of lean body weight of protein AND carbohydrate a day is what I'd recommend you consume. So, if you're 180 lbs and 12% body fat, your lean mass is 88% of 170 lbs, or 150 lbs. That would have you consuming a daily average of 150-225g of protein and carbohydrate a day. I would recommend you break that up based on your workout schedule. Protein would always remain in the 150-225g range every day, but carbohydrate intake would fluctuate. On days you don't exercise, you'd eat around 100g of carbohydrate a day. Meanwhile, on days you lift heavy things, you'd eat more like 300-350g of carbohydrate a day. Adjust your fats accordingly - rest days would be significantly higher fat, while on workout days, you want to keep fats low. Generally the lower the better, and I keep it under 30g on those high carb days.

                              There's no need for 99% of the population to eat under 100g of carbohydrate. Ketogenic diets are unnecessary and muscle-wasting unless you have a rare condition, like diabetes (which isn't caused by consumption of carbohydrate but rather individual foods, chemicals, omega 6 fats and constant snacking), cancer or epilepsy.

                              BTW, 1.5-2lbs of beef a day isn't a lot. I weigh 140 lbs and I eat 1.5 lbs of meat a day. If I can't fit meat into my macros, I fill it up with eggs, yogurt or cottage cheese. I always try and eat my weight in grams worth of animal-based protein every day, and often go pretty far over. Over 150g of protein is typical, and I eclipse 200g at least once a week.
                              The reason for that kind of protein calculation is based on your having not as much body fat, as before, thus having your lean muscle mass higher? Thanks. I'm still doing the 70%-80% of lean muscle mass formula, and wonder if I should ramp it up to the amount of lean muscle mass.
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