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    Hello All

    I'm new here and had two questions

    1) is canola oil mayonnaise okay? I like to use that w some meats.
    2) is a cup of oatmeal okay to have for breakfast?

  • #2
    Hi and welcome.

    No and no... sorry.

    Make your mayo with GOOD olive oil, macadamia oil, or avocado would be good too but I haven't tried it.

    Grains are not great, any grains. Forget about toast and cereal breakfasts and treat it the same as lunch or dinner. Have some fat, protein and veg. If you're stuck for time veg rosti or frittata are quick, easy and tasty, leftover dinner is also easy and quick.
    Lost the weight using CW. Now I just want to be healthier.
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    • #3
      Dr. William Davis who wrote "Wheat Belly" has a great blog post on how oatmeal is like eating a bowl of sugar:

      Oatmeal: Good or bad? | The Heart Scan Blog
      A Post-Primal PrimalPat

      Do not allow yourself to become wrapped up in a food 'lifestyle'. That is ego, and you are not that.

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      • #4
        May I ask, why the oatmeal? You don't get much nutrition for the high amount of carbs. I don't know why it's so popular with the Eat Clean crowd.
        5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the link.

          I used Irish McCann oatmeal and it's only 28grams of carbs... But I guess that not primal...
          On thd other hand, canola oil mayo I thought was good in fat and zero in carbs - part of marks blog he said ramp up the fat even with butter? So what is the difference?

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          • #6
            Canola is not a "real" fat. Highly processed from a toxic plant. Stick to things like butter, animal fats, coconut, olive and avocado.

            For homemade mayo, my favorite is baconnaise.
            Fast Paleo Baconnaise - Paleo Recipe Sharing Site

            With some practice you can get really good at making mayo. Best part is you can make mayo to match any meal, depending on which fats and acids you use. The combinations are infinite. It becomes absolutely gourmet without even really trying.

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            • #7
              Oatmeal's definitely not primal and triggers an insulin response, it's like eating a big bowl of sugar. Even the "heart-healthy" steel cut kind.

              The reason so many folks are down on the canola oil is because it's a refined oil with a high ratio of omega-6 fats. I'm fuzzy on the science, so someone else can probably help with that.

              The best mayo you can have is the mayo you make yourself! I use olive oil for mine.

              Here is my mayo recipe and I think it's the bestest! It's a pretty "basic" recipe and tastes just like commercial blends you find in a jar; you can build on this and add your own flavors, a bit of mustard or wasabi for some kick, etc. etc.

              (I hope that link worked)

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              • #8
                Thanks guys - you're awesome

                Sorry bout being a newbie but pls correct me here - isn't the entre idea to eliminate carbs which then then leads to fat loss canola oil mayo is carb free.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Chrisf12 View Post
                  Thanks guys - you're awesome

                  Sorry bout being a newbie but pls correct me here - isn't the entre idea to eliminate carbs which then then leads to fat loss canola oil mayo is carb free.
                  No, it's not: It's to eliminate grains. Vegetables have carbs, just not as much. More importantly, it's about natural sources of food. I'm reading "In Defense of Food," by Michael Pollan (planning on finishing out an Omnivore's Dilemma, personally), and recommend reading it. As previously stated, Canola Oil isn't naturally derived, and has high omega 6 content. It's not about the numbers, in general, but numbers in context. Simply put, it's about eating real food.
                  If you have a problem with what you read: 1. Get a dictionary 2. Don't read it 3. Grow up 4. After 3, go back to 1/ or 2. -- Dennis Blue. | "I don't care about your opinion, only your analysis"- Professor Calabrese. | "Life is more important than _______" - Drew | I eat animals that eat vegetables -- Matt Millen, former NFL Linebacker. | "This country is built on sugar & shit that comes in a box marinated in gluten - abc123

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Chrisf12 View Post
                    Thanks guys - you're awesome

                    Sorry bout being a newbie but pls correct me here - isn't the entre idea to eliminate carbs which then then leads to fat loss canola oil mayo is carb free.
                    A low-carb diet is great for losing fat, but not necessarily a good diet for good HEALTH. A primal diet is a low-toxin diet by priority. Canola oil is toxic, grains are toxic.
                    Many people here do NOT eat low carb, but the one thing that unifies the primal community is the avoidance of processed, and improperly prepared foods which cause bad immune responses.
                    There aren't many problems in life that can't be solved by sleeping it off, or adding more butter.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tealia View Post
                      A low-carb diet is great for losing fat, but not necessarily a good diet for good HEALTH. A primal diet is a low-toxin diet by priority. Canola oil is toxic, grains are toxic.
                      Many people here do NOT eat low carb, but the one thing that unifies the primal community is the avoidance of processed, and improperly prepared foods which cause bad immune responses.
                      this.

                      As I'm thinking about my own intake of food; my increasing use of IF, I think if I were to span my carb consumption throughout a few days, it'll average out to being low carb. Paleo/Primal isn't low-carb by default, but just happens to be that way due to the higher priority fat, and protein have, in contrast to carbs. Many talk about addition by subtraction, but I can also throw in subtraction by addition.
                      If you have a problem with what you read: 1. Get a dictionary 2. Don't read it 3. Grow up 4. After 3, go back to 1/ or 2. -- Dennis Blue. | "I don't care about your opinion, only your analysis"- Professor Calabrese. | "Life is more important than _______" - Drew | I eat animals that eat vegetables -- Matt Millen, former NFL Linebacker. | "This country is built on sugar & shit that comes in a box marinated in gluten - abc123

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                      • #12
                        Eating primal is not a diet. It is about eliminating poisons from your food and adopting a healthy lifestyle. If you can tolerate dairy think about using full fat Greek yogurt or make your own mayonnaise.
                        The amount of carbs depends on your needs...to loose weight lower carb, maintenance around 150g all of which you can get from healthy veg.
                        Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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                        Don't forget to play!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chrisf12 View Post
                          Hello All

                          I'm new here and had two questions

                          1) is canola oil mayonnaise okay? I like to use that w some meats.
                          2) is a cup of oatmeal okay to have for breakfast?
                          oatmeal is okay for breakfast, have no idea about canola oil :P wish you all the best for your weight loss programme cheerzz

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                          • #14
                            Here's a Mark blog post on oats: Are Oats Healthy? | Mark's Daily Apple

                            SADly, with condiments, you're going to have to learn a few kitchen skills. My homemade mayo still breaks because I have the patience of a gnat, but it tastes good and so I use it like a sauce. If you read the labels of even "olive oil mayonnaise" or the one I had the hardest time getting rid of Spectrum Vegan mayonnaise, there are other vegetable oils that are considered unhealthy by people following PB. Store bought mustard seems to be the only spreadable condiment out there that doesn't have a lot of crap in it.
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                            • #15
                              You could check out "no-oatmeal" in the free recipe book.

                              hth,
                              sg

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