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    Holy crap!!!


    Since arriving to the abundance of spinach and cabbage here in the UK at the beginning of January, I've been consuming it raw, in salads like nobdy's business, sometimes in HUGE amounts, three times a day. I just found out that eating raw crusiferous vegetables is detrimental to the thyroid! I've been suspicious of my thyroid being low, since I've also put on a lot of weight and have been feeling lethargic. In addition, I'm a breast feeding mamma, and this is not a good thing in terms of iodine.


    Here's the link:


    http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/...crucifers.html


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    The whole raw cruciferous thing threw me, too. Now I eat them rarely and make sure to steam or cook them when I do. Romaine, cucumbers, celery, and carrots are pretty much the only veggies I will eat raw.

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      Primalchild: Ah, okay, now I know what my salads will consist of! Why not red/orange/yellow peppers? And are tomatoes out too? I have so much to learn, but I'm ready and willing!

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        Well, technically speaking, bell peppers are fruit, but yeah, I eat those raw. Tomatoes are out if you're strict paleo. I don't crave them either way.

        You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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          You can't blame me for being extremely skeptical. Perhaps there are substances that block thyroid hormones, but the extent to which they do is of the utmost importance. For fuck's sake they warned against eating spinach due to oxalic acid content, but the amount in spinach is so small that it hardly makes a difference.


          Just my critical inquiry. These things usually aren't so black and white.

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            I think they're all fine cooked. I eat A LOT of cruciferous vegg and don't have problems, but it is all cooked. Besides onions and lettuce I mostly eat cruciferous veg (broccoli, cauliflower, kale, cabbage). I do eat peppers and tomatoes but not nearly as much as the cruciferous stuff.

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              Raw cruciferous vegetables are widely known to be goitrogenic, and people with thyroid problems are advised not to eat too much of them, though individual responses vary. But I haven't heard that much that they cause problems for otherwise healthy individuals.


              That said, post-partum hypothyroidism is a widely recognized phenomenon, so I'd say you should absolutely have your thyroid checked.

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                I was just gonna post about this like yesterday!!!!


                What with the cruciferous veg and the nightshades... what the heck are we supposed to eat?!?!?

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                  If we freak out and shy away from everything that has the slightest downside, we are left with only water. Reverse osmosis water of course. Wouldn't want a trillionth of a microgram of chlorine to get through.

                  Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

                  Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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                    Good question Tara,


                    I'm dealing with a lot of gut problems and now it seems everything has a warning sign on it:


                    - Oxalic acid (spinach, chard, ...)

                    - Cruciferous vegies

                    - Nightshades (eggplants, tomatoes, peppers)

                    - High fructose fruits and vegies


                    Nothing seem to be bright in the world of carbs.

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                      I would really like to see some scientific studies on this before I change the way I eat these.

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                        Well, for meI'm concluding that the crucifers have to go, at least in their raw form, and at least for a few weeks. Too much of anything is not good, and I was eating ENORMOUS amounts. I am concerned about not having enough iodine, especially because I've had no sea food and non-iodized salt in the last 3 months.

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                          You said right in your first post that you have been eating as much spinach. Spinach has tons.

                          Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

                          Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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                            Hmm. I never knew about the thyroid thing. I always shied away from raw broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, brussel sprouts etc because I find them too hard and difficult to digest when raw. They simply taste better cooked IMO.


                            What Stabby said made me chuckle, but it's kind of true:


                            "If we freak out and shy away from everything that has the slightest downside, we are left with only water."


                            It's important to be informed, but I'm kind of tired of worrying about things and adding to my already sizable "can not eat" list.

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