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    There are a few posters here who have said they needed to restrict calories to finally lose the weight they wanted to lose.

    My own past experience with any weight-loss diet before this (WW, Atkins, or just eating less) is that maintenance was tricky, and when I finally regained the weight, I ended up 5 or 10 lbs heavier than before--resulting in my current stance, "I can't afford to diet anymore, I'll end up weighing too much."

    I have plateaued at easily 20 lbs above my goal weight (for several months, now--been eating primal for over a year). I am considering doing some calorie counting, but am concerned about what seems to happen to my setpoint when I restrict calories. (There are any number of other things I need to fix as well--sleep, exercise, etc.--but I'm still interested in this question.)

    I'm wondering what the experience of people here has been with calorie restriction--did you reach your goal? Were you able to maintain satiety on fewer calories by eating primal? Has maintenance been a challenge or relatively easy?

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    One word: cold thermogenics. Worked wonders for me. And checking my hormone-levels. Turns out high estradiol-levels were the reason I always got stuck... As I carry so much bloat!

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    • #3
      Just curious since you are posting in Sisson's forums...did you read the Primal Blueprint? If so, what did it say regarding this topic?
      http://stackingplates.com/

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Glamorama View Post
        One word: cold thermogenics.
        *whispers softly*....I think that might be two words

        But I'm off to google it now!

        ETA: Oh no!! Really, you sit in cold ice baths.....the horror
        Last edited by jammies; 02-23-2012, 08:12 PM.
        Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

        http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jammies View Post
          *whispers softly*....I think that might be two words

          But I'm off to google it now!

          ETA: Oh no!! Really, you sit in cold ice baths.....the horror
          I use ice bricks in compression garment around my tummy and waist 45-50 min daily. Fat is going extremely fast!!! And you get used to the cold... Now I only do cool showers and I love 1-2 cool baths weekly. Centimeters are going and I'm looking more defined, it's only been a week! Try it.

          No no! I use ice bricks over compression-garment around my waist. 45-50 min daily. Fat melts from all over and I lost 1 cm from waist in 6 days! Believe me wh

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          • #6
            Yes, I read the book : )

            I don't think he discussed calorie restriction.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SuBee View Post
              I don't think he discussed calorie restriction.
              Calorie restriction does not cause weight loss.

              BODY BY SCIENCE (VIDEO 5): THE SCIENCE OF FAT LOSS

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              • #8
                Boosting the number of calories you burn is important, through exercise, building muscle, thermogenics, eliminating nutrient deficiencies, resetting your leptin, getting enough sleep.

                PB does have sections on estimating your 'maintenance' calories and calculating extra carbs required for exercise, if you want to count, but it encourages you not to, to eat until you are satisfied, and listen to your body.
                F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SuBee View Post
                  Yes, I read the book : )

                  I don't think he discussed calorie restriction.
                  And why do you think that is?
                  http://stackingplates.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by StackingPlates View Post
                    And why do you think that is?
                    That doesnt mean it's not necessary for some people when they get down to lower body fat %. <--- speaking from experience, I'm a strict PBer and that alone even with daily 16hr fasts and exercise (2 days lifting heavy things, sprinting once a week, walking 1hr daily) is not enough for me to lose body fat (the horror I've actually gained a few pounds). I've tried the whole cutting dairy, no nuts (I typically dont eat nuts), <50g of carb..having no effect. I think calorie restriction should be a last resort, but sometimes needed.
                    Primal since March 2011

                    Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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                    • #11
                      You don't mention what your exercise and activity level is. Sometimes a small reduction in calories is enough to kick start things again.
                      Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
                      PS
                      Don't forget to play!

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                      • #12
                        Activia, this is clearly not the case with this user though. Read their first post where they talk about plateauing at 20 pounds or so over their ideal body weight. That whole sentence made me cringe but it did allow me to determine this wasn't someone trying to get from 8% to 6% body fat...
                        http://stackingplates.com/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by StackingPlates View Post
                          Activia, this is clearly not the case with this user though. Read their first post where they talk about plateauing at 20 pounds or so over their ideal body weight. That whole sentence made me cringe but it did allow me to determine this wasn't someone trying to get from 8% to 6% body fat...
                          We still don't know what SuBee's goal % BF and BMI are though. Without context one can't tell where this goal sits within the spectrum of unrealistic/highly challenging right through to theoretically easily achievable. The more challenging it is, the greater the need to count calories.
                          F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by activia View Post
                            That doesnt mean it's not necessary for some people when they get down to lower body fat %. <--- speaking from experience, I'm a strict PBer and that alone even with daily 16hr fasts and exercise (2 days lifting heavy things, sprinting once a week, walking 1hr daily) is not enough for me to lose body fat (the horror I've actually gained a few pounds). I've tried the whole cutting dairy, no nuts (I typically dont eat nuts), <50g of carb..having no effect. I think calorie restriction should be a last resort, but sometimes needed.
                            Cum hoc/questionable cause fallacy...
                            Overloaded and Under-fuelled: A case study | THAT PALEO GUY
                            ...recently picked up a paper on high-fat diets for endurance athletes where the researchers were using 1g/kg carbohydrate and 4g/kg of fat!... If you are going to eat low-carb, you need to eat high-fat and likely a lot higher than you think what a high-fat diet actually is.

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                            • #15
                              I don't mean to scare you, but I have read quite a few posts where women say that actually increasing their good carbs helped then to lose those last few pounds. I can't attest to this, because I am not at that point yet, but it seems to be a common thing. Keep in mind these should be non goitrogenic foods. Read Choco's post about what veggies are goitrogenic! Lot's of luck to you!

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