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  • Dairy? Do I have to minimize if I am not sensitive to it?

    I never really noticed myself having too much issue eating dairy.
    DO i really need to elim or minimize on paleo if I have no major issues (that I can tell)?

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    If you don't want to, then don't.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by mikeyboyeee View Post
      I never really noticed myself having too much issue eating dairy.
      DO i really need to elim or minimize on paleo if I have no major issues (that I can tell)?
      It depends on your goals and how it effects you. I would stay away from A1 milk sources tho... Raw is best either way... You dont want all those hormones and antibiotics for sure, I'd keep to full fat unprocessed raw myself.
      “The Devil in the Milk” — Dr. Thomas Cowan on how the A1 – A2 factor explains why even raw milk sometimes does not seem to be enough of an improvement over “store-bought” | The Bovine

      Experiment. Eliminate for 30 days, add back. See if there are effects (it causes sinus issues if I eat a LOT of it). Are you trying to lose weight and stalling? Try eliminating dairy... otherwise if you get it from good quality sources unpasturized I dont see the harm.
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      Female/29 years old/5' 1"/130ish lbs

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      • #4
        AH, I am trying to acquire some raw unpasteurized milk, but is not legal to sell in NJ from what I understand.

        I am stuck to the organic stuff (supermarket only has organic half and half).

        Greek yogurt ok?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mikeyboyeee View Post
          AH, I am trying to acquire some raw unpasteurized milk, but is not legal to sell in NJ from what I understand.

          I am stuck to the organic stuff (supermarket only has organic half and half).

          Greek yogurt ok?
          That's a bummer. Here in MA farmers are allowed to sell it direct to consumer, you must pick it up at the farm. We can also buy cheese made with raw milk in the stores. Just try and get the best quality greek yogurt you can. If it doesnt effect you then you should be fine. There are some good probiotics in greek yogurt. Mark puts it in the grey land and says to only have full-fat.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by activia View Post
            That's a bummer. Here in MA farmers are allowed to sell it direct to consumer, you must pick it up at the farm. We can also buy cheese made with raw milk in the stores. Just try and get the best quality greek yogurt you can. If it doesnt effect you then you should be fine. There are some good probiotics in greek yogurt. Mark puts it in the grey land and says to only have full-fat.
            Im in the UK and it is against the law to sell unpasteurized milk!
            I'm not a complete idiot! There's parts missing!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mikeyboyeee View Post
              AH, I am trying to acquire some raw unpasteurized milk, but is not legal to sell in NJ from what I understand.

              I am stuck to the organic stuff (supermarket only has organic half and half).

              Greek yogurt ok?
              You can buy it in PA. A farm near where I live (buy some of their pastured meats in bulk) sells at Philly farmer's markets and I know they produce raw milk. Check eatwild.com for farms in PA closest to you, or scan the Philly farmer's market listings.

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              • #8
                IIRC, Mark mentions that some folks do just fine with milk/dairy and some not so much, depending on ancestry. I remember it because my ancestry is Dutch and he mentioned that being one of the gene pools that evolved with lots of dairy and tolerate it well. Works for me, I eat plenty of butter, cheese, yogurt and custard with no problem whatsoever. But in many people there's something that gets turned off once they're weaned, after which dairy doesn't agree with them. I glaze over the minute stuff gets scientific so I don't recall the specifics.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by activia View Post
                  Just try and get the best quality greek yogurt you can.
                  Yes. "Organic" really doesn't mean anything if the product is pasteurized, so it should at least be fermented and alive.
                  You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                  • #10
                    Cordain believes that dairy is highly acid forming and produces a higher than expected insulin response, which would make it a bad food to eat. I don't know how solid that evidence is though.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by AMonkey View Post
                      Cordain believes that dairy is highly acid forming and produces a higher than expected insulin response, which would make it a bad food to eat. I don't know how solid that evidence is though.
                      It is highly acid forming, which is only liable to be a problem in the context of a diet that is too acid-forming overall. Acid foods help maintain a healthy gut flora by preventing candida overgrowth.

                      Lactose produces a high insulin spike. If muscles are insulin responsive this facilitates uptake of nutrients needed to repair themselves and build more fibres. Milk obviously needs to be an excellent anabolic food to make young mammals grow fast. The insulin spike can be problematic, however, for those who are insulin resistant. They tolerate low-lactose dairy best, e.g. fermented cheeses.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rattybag View Post
                        Im in the UK and it is against the law to sell unpasteurized milk!
                        No it isn't. I have a farm about 10 miles from me in Bordon, Hampshire, who sell RAW milk. There are also websites you can buy raw milk and get it delivered to you.

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