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  • Some questions from a newbie. Been sick 6-7 times while following PB

    Hey guys,

    First post here. I've been following The Primal Blueprint for about a year now. I can't buy grass-fed or organic foods because it's too expensive, but other than that I've been pretty strict. I would say on an average day the following is what I eat:

    -6 eggs
    -Meat or fish
    -Lots of veggies
    -High-fat dairy such as cheese and cream
    -Fruit
    -Nuts

    Should also mention that I go out drinking maybe 2-3 times a week, and on each of those days I probably drink about 10 beers (I'm a college student). I don't know how much damage I do here, but I figured since my diet is pretty much within PB other than this, I would be fine?

    -My stomach is often upset and my feces is usually not firm, but more towards diarrhea. I can't remember I had this when I was not following PB. Anyone have any idea what this can be caused by?

    -How big of an issue is the fact that I can't afford grass-fed meat and organic foods?

    -I've found that once I get off PB for a few days (when I'm at places where it's hard to follow the plan) I most likely end up becoming sick. Is it a fact that by following PB and going off for a few days, the immune system goes through some kind of a shock, resulting in me becoming sick?

    I appreciate any responses here
    Thanks!

    -Mathias

  • #2
    You need to wash your hands more often. That's the #1 cause of illness (viral / bacterial). 10 beers in a sitting during college usually resulted in beer shits for me the next day. Not rocket science!

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    • #3
      So you're drinking 20-30 beers per week and wondering why you're not feeling well? I'm pretty sure I can identify the cause right there.

      Also, beer is loaded with gluten, and that's definitely not primal. One here and there, if you can tolerate gluten okay, then sure, have it as a 20% thing. But you are definitely not within PB at that kind of level of consumption.

      Oh, and if you knocked off the massive drinking habit, you could probably afford better food, too. Two problems solved all at once!
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      • #4
        Owly beat me to it....if you can afford to buy 20-30 beers each week, you can afford to spend a little extra on quality food. It's all about prioritizing. And honestly if you're drinking that much, I wouldn't worry about whether or not your produce is organic. I get that drinking is a big part of college life for some people, but it sounds like it doesn't agree with you. Take a few weeks off and see how you feel.
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        • #5
          It certainly isn't a good habit, but it's a big part of college, socializing etc. What about replacing beer with other forms of alcohol? Red wine?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mathias View Post
            It certainly isn't a good habit, but it's a big part of college, socializing etc. What about replacing beer with other forms of alcohol? Red wine?
            I replaced old ales and stouts with whiskey on the rocks with a bit of spring water,but I also cut back a lot on my alcohol consumption and limit my drinking to special occasions these days.
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            • #7
              What about the low-carb beers? Are they still a big no-no?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mathias View Post
                What about the low-carb beers? Are they still a big no-no?
                No clue,I've never seen the carbs as being the issue with excessive alcohol consumption,it was the hangovers and risk of numerous bad situations that comes with it that made me cut back drastically. I've never woken up with a blistering headache and a dent in my wallet from a huge bar tab and said "Damn those carbohydrates!".I think beer is ok in moderation,which applies to any alcohol really,but a 30 pack a week is just too much imo.I used to brew my own beer,and it was really easy to lose track of how many I was grabbing throughout the week,but that hasn't been an issue since I toned the drinking down and switched over to whiskey.I'll have maybe 5 whiskeys a month now,and all those are within a safe and social context with close friends and family.
                Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own experience.

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                SW: 220- 225 pounds at the beginning of January
                CW: 180 pounds

                Goals for 2012: Lose a bit more fat and start a serious muscle and strength routine

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                • #9
                  Shit, what about drinking half as much then? How is getting wasted three times a week "ok" for someone actively concerned about your health? I get that you're in college, but that doesn't actually HAVE to mean getting falling down wasted multiple times every week. Maybe switch to a hard science major?
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                  • #10
                    I'm a college student as well and have gone straight to liquor since I can't handle beer anymore. Plus ripping shots is awesome..great alternative to shotgunning a beer and feeling sick.

                    Anyways, try cutting out dairy and see if that has any affect on you. I personally can't tolerate dairy /too/ well but this could help. And like others said, 30 beers a week is a lot. Try drinking more liquor instead of beer and see what happens
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                    • #11
                      Oh good Lord~ I'm old enough to be your grandmother! Don't make me cyberslap you upside the head~ exactly why are you in college? Because you sure aren't getting educated~ if you want to drink, save yourself (your parents) the money and just go be a drunk~ otherwise, grow up~ life is what you make it and so is your health. What do you want?????

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                      • #12
                        Dude, I made it all the way to grad school without feeling the need to drink 30 beers a week (of course, this may be why I made it to grad school). You can join in college party culture and not get shit-faced every couple of days. Seriously, if you're doing PB and have any interest in your health, stop binge drinking--it's really, really bad for you. Even switching to spirits, cut it back, mmkay?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by feren6 View Post
                          I'm a college student as well and have gone straight to liquor since I can't handle beer anymore. Plus ripping shots is awesome..great alternative to shotgunning a beer and feeling sick.

                          Anyways, try cutting out dairy and see if that has any affect on you. I personally can't tolerate dairy /too/ well but this could help. And like others said, 30 beers a week is a lot. Try drinking more liquor instead of beer and see what happens
                          It's the amount,not where it's coming from that's the issue.Also, "ripping shots" is a childish and irresponsible way of drinking that leads to more problems than swilling beer for hours. I've seen so many people get dangerously intoxicated from shots because the amount of alcohol taken in over a certain amount of time is much more than if someone was drinking beer.It amazes me that you can watch videos of college kids doing lines of shots as fast as they can and at the same time people wonder why there are so many alcohol related deaths per year.Childish drinking like funnels,shots,shotgunning,keg stands and all that other BS is just asking for trouble.
                          Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own experience.

                          In the mind of the beginner, there are many possibilities; in the mind of the expert, there are few.


                          I've shaken hands with a raccoon and lived to tell the tale

                          SW: 220- 225 pounds at the beginning of January
                          CW: 180 pounds

                          Goals for 2012: Lose a bit more fat and start a serious muscle and strength routine

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by @lex View Post
                            It's the amount,not where it's coming from that's the issue.Also, "ripping shots" is a childish and irresponsible way of drinking that leads to more problems than swilling beer for hours. I've seen so many people get dangerously intoxicated from shots because the amount of alcohol taken in over a certain amount of time is much more than if someone was drinking beer.It amazes me that you can watch videos of college kids doing lines of shots as fast as they can and at the same time people wonder why there are so many alcohol related deaths per year.Childish drinking like funnels,shots,shotgunning,keg stands and all that other BS is just asking for trouble.
                            Indeed binge drinking is a problem and should be limited, but it would be naive to say that you're going to college and not going to drink. Hell, that sounds like a pretty boring college experience to me, but to each his own. I'm assuming he's old enough to know his limits, so there's nothing wrong with taking back some shots. Drinking games are fun.

                            But OP, cut it back on the beers a little and see if that helps. Experiment
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                            • #15
                              • Why so many eggs? Do you bodybuild a lot or something?
                              • Another thing I notice (correct me if I'm wrong) is that you do a lot of snacking. Perhaps eating one or two big meals only would give your body time to rest from digestion, so your body can focus on doing other things like preventing or curing illness.
                              • What kind of vegetables do you eat? Consume the ones in the green, and avoid the ones in the red. See if that helps.
                              • If you can afford so much beer, you can certainly afford good food, however I do not think grass-fed is necessary for good health (optimal health, sure, but simply good health can be done on grain-fed meat)
                              • Maybe you don't have enough stomach acid to allow your stomach to fight infections?
                              • By the way you describe your bowel movements, maybe some enzymes would help digestion. Also, try getting rid of nuts and the dairy for one or two weeks. If that doesn't help, then try getting rid of eggs. But the enzymes would help you, I think!
                              • It's ok that you can't afford grass fed / organic, don't worry about it. BUT you CAN afford it, since you can afford beer! Having grass-fed/organic foods WOULD be worth ditching the beer.
                              • Do you notice you get sick after consuming sugar?


                              Yes, eating something that cause an immune response can make you sick, if it stresses your immune system so much that it can't fight off an illness.

                              FIRST STEP I suggest is that you get rid of the beer! (And yes, I love beer too!)

                              But... why are you even asking? If you're so keen on being a drunk, then you surely could care less about your health. (And yes, I have been a college student before, and yes, I partied, and yes, I did have lots of fun, and yes, I did drink some alcohol, but certainly no more than 2 beers per week!) Try some club soda or lemon water instead, then you can have fun watching retarded drunks instead of being a retarded drunk.
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