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    Thinking about going fruit free (in the interests of weight loss), does anyone here not eat fruit at all? how much does it affect weight loss (i love my fruit) thank you

  • #2
    I don't eat fruit. I don't try to avoid it, it just happens.

    I can't tell you if not eating it will help you or not. There's only one way to tell: try it. We all experiment to find what works best for us.
    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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    • #3
      Experimentation it is thank you

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      • #4
        Do Hostess Apple/Cherry pies count as fruit? I eat an occasional banana/blueberries. But mostly fruit free. I don't think it has had a positive or negative affect on my diet. I wasn't a fruit whore before, I just simplified the stuff I eat and fruit kind of just fell off.
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        • #5
          Mark advises to limit fruit intake due to the higher fructose content compared to vegetables. Fructose had to be detoxed by the liver, increases blood triglycerides, and is much more carcinogenic than glucose.

          I barely eat fruit as I'm prone to gut dysbiosis and don't have a sweet tooth. In addition, I understand the problems with fructose through having studied biochemistry for my undergraduate degree.

          Vegetables have a higher concentration of micronutrients and fibre per calorie and per gram of fructose, thus there is less rationale to limit intake of vegetables (I would say no rationale at all). Some people say that eating fruit sets off sugar cravings, so that can be another reason to limit fruit intake.
          F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
            I don't eat fruit. I don't try to avoid it, it just happens.

            I can't tell you if not eating it will help you or not. There's only one way to tell: try it. We all experiment to find what works best for us.
            Wow, that's almost word for word what I was going to type.
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            • #7
              If you replace your fruit snack with a veg snack in most cases you will have a calorie reduction.
              Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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              • #8
                Why eliminate fruit? What else are you eating?

                Nuts, seeds, dairy, chocolate, coffee, processed meats, poor sleep, lack of exercise, and stress can all stall weight loss, and often work in combination to do so.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                  I don't eat fruit. I don't try to avoid it, it just happens.

                  I can't tell you if not eating it will help you or not. There's only one way to tell: try it. We all experiment to find what works best for us.
                  Originally posted by Apex Predator View Post
                  Wow, that's almost word for word what I was going to type.
                  Same here~ I have to really try to eat fruit~ most times I forget But I never forget my salads and veggies! Maybe just cutting back and subbing with things like cucumber or avocado would help?

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                  • #10
                    i guess i'm not HUGE on fruit but i do like to indulge in the local in season stuff. I treat it as my lunchtime "dessert". So now it is grapefruit season. And b/c my husband was out of town i was just too damn lazy to cut one up for myself (he really likes the grapefruit for breakfast). And for that whole week i felt much slimmer. My tightest jeans were much less tight. So i haven't eaten any grapefruit since then & I really do think it makes a difference.

                    However, when it's blueberries, forget about it! i'm gonna eat a ton of blueberries (& peaches - they're usu in season together. oh yum!)

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                    • #11
                      i had an orange for the first time last week in weeks.

                      I really thought I would miss fruit more, but I don't. I just eat my other food (meats, veg) and I feel great

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                      • #12
                        I ate half of a Cutie (clementine) today~

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by paleo-bunny View Post
                          Mark advises to limit fruit intake due to the higher fructose content compared to vegetables. Fructose had to be detoxed by the liver, increases blood triglycerides, and is much more carcinogenic than glucose.
                          That's true - if it's isolated fructose. White sucrose, HFCS, agave syrup - absolutely toxic as it's not real food, it's man-made. Now, REAL, whole fructose in the form of whole fruit or something like raw honey? Saying that is toxic is patently false. There are many benefits to whole fructose, and keeping your liver partially replete with glycogen hosts many health benefits. Some of these are decreased serotonin (increased serotonin = depression), increased testosterone, decreased cortisol, it protects against muscle loss (unlike gluconeogenesis, which is muscle wasting), decreased estrogen...the list goes on and on.

                          Take a good look at the human digestive tract - it is made to digest meat, starch and fruit. Large quantities of vegetables? Not so much. Fiber is detrimental to the human digestive tract, decreases the efficiency of nutrient absorption, causes endogenous gas, cramping and literally "plugs you up". There are a host of reasons why I'd rather eat fruit and vegetables, and the fact that fruit is easily digested, the nutrients are more readily available, there aren't anti-nutrients in fruit (unlike vegetables, especially greens) and they provide a much more efficient source of energy (unlike vegetables, which are mostly useless for energy).

                          But I digress. That doesn't mean eat 15 servings of fruit a day, but to think that one serving of fruit a day is harming your fat loss is crazy. If you aren't losing weight, it's probably due to two things: calories or not ENOUGH carbs. I know that last sentence will be unpopular around here, but it's unfortunately true. I don't support chronic low carb dieting for non-diabetics with stable blood sugar. Nothing good is going to come out of it unless you consider low energy, low libido, thyroid issues, irritability and 15 lbs that refuse to ever go away positives. Ask me how I know.
                          Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 02-13-2012, 07:38 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tarek View Post
                            Why eliminate fruit? What else are you eating?

                            Nuts, seeds, dairy, chocolate, coffee, processed meats, poor sleep, lack of exercise, and stress can all stall weight loss, and often work in combination to do so.
                            to see if it helps fat loss mostly, ive eliminated all foods above, sleep like the dead every night, LHT 2 or 3 times week. poss the stress thing isa factor, i have 2 wee boys who are like hurricanes lol

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                              That's true - if it's isolated fructose. White sucrose, HFCS, agave syrup - absolutely toxic as it's not real food, it's man-made. Now, REAL, whole fructose in the form of whole fruit or something like raw honey? Saying that is toxic is patently false. There are many benefits to whole fructose, and keeping your liver partially replete with glycogen hosts many health benefits. Some of these are decreased serotonin (increased serotonin = depression), increased testosterone, decreased cortisol, it protects against muscle loss (unlike gluconeogenesis, which is muscle wasting), decreased estrogen...the list goes on and on.

                              Take a good look at the human digestive tract - it is made to digest meat, starch and fruit. Large quantities of vegetables? Not so much. Fiber is detrimental to the human digestive tract, decreases the efficiency of nutrient absorption, causes endogenous gas, cramping and literally "plugs you up". There are a host of reasons why I'd rather eat fruit and vegetables, and the fact that fruit is easily digested, the nutrients are more readily available, there aren't anti-nutrients in fruit (unlike vegetables, especially greens) and they provide a much more efficient source of energy (unlike vegetables, which are mostly useless for energy).

                              But I digress. That doesn't mean eat 15 servings of fruit a day, but to think that one serving of fruit a day is harming your fat loss is crazy. If you aren't losing weight, it's probably due to two things: calories or not ENOUGH carbs. I know that last sentence will be unpopular around here, but it's unfortunately true. I don't support chronic low carb dieting for non-diabetics with stable blood sugar. Nothing good is going to come out of it unless you consider low energy, low libido, thyroid issues, irritability and 15 lbs that refuse to ever go away positives. Ask me how I know.
                              thank you so what level of carbs do you suggest or is it again an personal experiment?

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