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  • How Primal *should* we be?

    Some of the choice quotes...

    “We aren’t the same as people even a thousand or two thousand years ago,” he says. “Almost every trait you look at is under strong genetic influence.”
    They Don't Make Homo Sapiens Like They Used To | Human Evolution | DISCOVER Magazine

    “It is likely that human races are evolving away from each other,” says University of Utah anthropologist Henry Harpending, who coauthored a major paper on recent human evolution. “We are getting less alike, not merging into a single mixed humanity.”
    The new genetic adaptations, some 2,000 in total, are not limited to the well-recognized differences among ethnic groups in superficial traits such as skin and eye color. The mutations relate to the brain, the digestive system, life span, immunity to pathogens, sperm production, and bones—in short, virtually every aspect of our functioning.

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    If a person tries going Primal and has weeks of gastronomic discomfort and no craving for PB foods, that person should do something else.

    If a person goes Primal and has success losing a lot of weight and regaining health, but then plateaus for years and notices their health declining in ways like thinning hair and cold extremities and decreased libido, that person should do something else like investigating the re-addition of grains and sugar in sensible ways.

    We should be as Primal as we're comfortable with, really.
    You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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    • #3
      Interesting article and thanks for sharing, though I don't think it has anything to do with how compliant I "should be" eating the way that makes me the healthiest, based on my own observations of my own body. I would agree that we know basically very little about our distant past and the whole "paleo" idea is highly speculative. It's just that it's better than the advice you get from the government.
      If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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      • #4
        Yes, I agree, "listen to your body" is the way to go.

        I was surprised to see there is evidence we are evolving that quickly...!

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        • #5
          The future of nutrition is nutrigenomics (nutrition based on your genes). However, science is far from being able do that accurately. Until then, I'll use paleo principles as a guideline.

          Edit: just read the thing. This part is my favorite:

          ''Of course, in melting-pot cultures all kinds of ethnic groups intermingle freely, and the children who result literally meld our DNA together. Even if those groups were diverging, international travel is now causing the diversity to get lost in the genetic reshuffling. “That’s the ultimate irony,” Moyzis says. “By the time we finally settle this debate, we’ll all be such a mixture of genes that we won’t care.”''

          Genetically, I've got some French, Irish and Italian background. If I was to have kids with an Asian or a black woman, they would be a total genetic mess. I wonder if the mixing of genes would make them stronger or weaker.
          Last edited by Winterbike; 02-10-2012, 09:06 AM.

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          • #6
            "We should be as Primal as we're comfortable with, really." Well said. For those it works for, some of us do well with a 80/20 some higher. I think I'm around 90-95%, doing my best to have nothing that would be a "cheat". I find I don't even miss the things I used to crave. That said, for me ham, -yes..they are cured with sugar and have preservatives -is not a "no-no" but an "eat in moderation". I don't do dairy, butter, yogert, whey, white potatoes etc. that some do. That doesn't work for me. 'Strict Paleo'+ham does.
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            • #7
              listening to the body is best..

              i still argue that thousands of years of evolution of the body being changed by only a couple hundred HASNT changed us that much .. and imho the parts that have changed dont seem to be helping much (look at our current status with health in most parts of the world) ...
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              • #8
                It's interesting and I'm inclined to agree simply because of the massive diversity of terrain and climates on this planet, and the myriad of population centres.

                But at the end of the day, you can't argue with a philosophy that compels you to keep as much of your food as natural and unprocessed as possible. If you start from there, you can work out what's best for you as you go.
                Meat is Prized, Wheat is Despised.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DeeDub View Post
                  Yes, I agree, "listen to your body" is the way to go.
                  This.

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                  • #10
                    I live in a cave and draw on the walls. I'm probably 75%.
                    "The problem with quoting someone on the Internet is, you never know if it's legit" - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rip @ MIPWID View Post
                      But at the end of the day, you can't argue with a philosophy that compels you to keep as much of your food as natural and unprocessed as possible. If you start from there, you can work out what's best for you as you go.
                      This. 100%!
                      “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                      ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                      And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                      • #12
                        personally i don't feel really "primal" until i've eaten the hearts of my enemies to consume the strength of their spirits
                        beautiful
                        yeah you are

                        Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                        lol

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rip @ MIPWID View Post
                          But at the end of the day, you can't argue with a philosophy that compels you to keep as much of your food as natural and unprocessed as possible. If you start from there, you can work out what's best for you as you go.
                          Agreed - and this is the philosophy I tend to discuss with folks who aren't paleo - trying to get someone to drop grains and legumes cold turkey isn't likely to succeed, but getting people to emphasize whole, unprocessed foods with lots of veggies and meat is not at all radical, and most people can be nudged in this direction if approached reasonably. Add the "listen to your body" clause to that and I think people would end up pretty close, if not at a complete consensus.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
                            If a person tries going Primal and has weeks of gastronomic discomfort and no craving for PB foods, that person should do something else.

                            If a person goes Primal and has success losing a lot of weight and regaining health, but then plateaus for years and notices their health declining in ways like thinning hair and cold extremities and decreased libido, that person should do something else like investigating the re-addition of grains and sugar in sensible ways.

                            We should be as Primal as we're comfortable with, really.
                            A very sensible post.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Winterbike View Post
                              Genetically, I've got some French, Irish and Italian background. If I was to have kids with an Asian or a black woman, they would be a total genetic mess. I wonder if the mixing of genes would make them stronger or weaker.


                              Well according to what I've read about in terms of animals, the mixed breeds are healthier in general than the purebreds. So if that is transferable to humans, we'd be better off mixing than separating.

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