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    I've been eating primal for a few months now and while I feel ok I haven't noticed much change in my body. And I have a lot of weight to lose so it's pretty frustrating not to see any progress, even after a Whole30. From what I've been reading tracking everything eaten isn't the norm for most people following the PB, but all I can think of is that I'm eating too much so maybe I should go back to journaling everything I eat? It's such a pain but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Do you guys journal?

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    I don't. Some people find it helpful.

    If you post your diet, exercise, stress, medical conditions, etc. people are pretty willing to give suggestions from their experience.
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    • #3
      I tracked for almost a week on fitday.com simply to give myself a true idea of what 50-100g carbs looked/felt like, and to make sure I was getting enough protein not to lose muscle and enough fat intake to lose fat! I only track once every couple of weeks now just to make sure I'm still in ballpark range.
      It was incredibly beneficial and educational for me to set that solidly in my mind. That said, it is a pain in the butt and I prefer not to do it often!
      You don't have to be sick to get better.
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      • #4
        I'm new to this and decided to track using The Daily Plate so that I could be more certain of proper portions, etc. I think tracking can be a helpful tool particularly if you're new or not getting the results you expected. I certainly am aiming to be able to give up tracking in maintenance, hopefully by then I'll have learned how much I should be eating.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Apex Predator View Post
          I don't. Some people find it helpful.

          If you post your diet, exercise, stress, medical conditions, etc. people are pretty willing to give suggestions from their experience.
          Thanks

          Here's what I'm eating today.
          Breakfast: 2 eggs cooked in butter with a handful of spinach and a couple tablespoons of salsa, one cup of coffee with a splash of
          cream.
          Lunch: leftover chicken curry with vegetables (curry sauce made with homemade chicken stock & coconut milk) over zucchini
          noodles & 1/2 an avocado
          Dinner: green pepper steak over a cup of cauli rice

          I did a strength training class this morning using free weights (do this 2x a week) and I usually walk about 3 miles 2-3x a week also. No medications other than a prenatal vitamin as we are trying for baby#2 later this year.

          Thanks and I'd love to hear more of your thoughts!

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          • #6
            I also don't think you're eating too much.

            I don't journal everything I eat though I pay attention to the affects of certain foods. I notice if I consume too much dairy I bloat in the lower back. If I cheat and have a beer I gain water weight for the next two days, etc.

            Also, could it be that you are making progress in other ways that aren't as noticeable? Do your clothes fit better? Have you lost inches in other not-so-noticeable places? When you get discouraged the best place to focus your attention is on the small steps of progress towards a larger reward.
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            • #7
              If you track on livestrong or fit day, you can see your calorie counts. I try and be disciplined about measuring my fats. Did you cook your eggs in 50 calories of butter or 200 calories? How much is a splash of cream? I know we are supposed to eat fat, but for weight loss, you need to eat calories, so fat can't be unlimited.

              It doesn't look like you are eating to much- your breakfast is probably 300 calories or so, lunch and dinner is hard to tell- did you eat 3 cups of curry or 1? Does the cauliflower rice have 2T of butter in it? It seems like the meals are on the right track- so maybe you are just eating too much of a good thing.

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              • #8
                I think if you track for a couple of weeks, it will be helpful, because then you can play with your macro ranges and calories to see what will make you lose weight.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Grausel View Post
                  Thanks

                  Here's what I'm eating today.
                  Breakfast: 2 eggs cooked in butter with a handful of spinach and a couple tablespoons of salsa, one cup of coffee with a splash of
                  cream.
                  Lunch: leftover chicken curry with vegetables (curry sauce made with homemade chicken stock & coconut milk) over zucchini
                  noodles & 1/2 an avocado
                  Dinner: green pepper steak over a cup of cauli rice

                  I did a strength training class this morning using free weights (do this 2x a week) and I usually walk about 3 miles 2-3x a week also. No medications other than a prenatal vitamin as we are trying for baby#2 later this year.

                  Thanks and I'd love to hear more of your thoughts!
                  That sounds really squared away. If you really have a lot to lose(height/weight?) you might consider a thyroid workup(as much to get views from people on here than your doctors-thyroid stuff can be tricky but there are some people on here who have seen it all).

                  If by "a lot to lose" you mean 10lbs, you are likely going to need to count calories, or otherwise restrict them.

                  For reference, have you tried:

                  IF
                  Sprinting
                  Leptin Reset

                  ?
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                  • #10
                    Oh yeah, almost forgot:

                    How's your sleep and stress?
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                    • #11
                      Height - 5'8"
                      Weight - too much for me to mention, even under a fake name =). But I promise i have a lot more to lose than 10 lbs.
                      Stress - the same as any other (part-time) working mommy but I'm happy and loved. Trying to lose weight gives me the most stress!
                      Sleep - this has been the biggest improvement for me, now I get 7-8 good hours a night

                      I had a hard pregnancy with my first, including 3 months of bed rest and delivering a big baby. After that it's like I woke up in a whole different body. I've actually had my thyroid checked and other blood work done because its been so hard for me to lose weight and all came back within normal ranges.

                      I just started reading about IF on this forum so that may be my next move to try.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Grausel View Post
                        Height - 5'8"
                        Weight - too much for me to mention, even under a fake name =). But I promise i have a lot more to lose than 10 lbs.
                        Stress - the same as any other (part-time) working mommy but I'm happy and loved. Trying to lose weight gives me the most stress!
                        Sleep - this has been the biggest improvement for me, now I get 7-8 good hours a night

                        I had a hard pregnancy with my first, including 3 months of bed rest and delivering a big baby. After that it's like I woke up in a whole different body. I've actually had my thyroid checked and other blood work done because its been so hard for me to lose weight and all came back within normal ranges.

                        I just started reading about IF on this forum so that may be my next move to try.
                        I'd post your thyroid results here in a new thread- people here often see things the docs miss.
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                        • #13
                          What are you using to gauge your progress? Weight can often be less reliable than measurements or clothing fit. If your clothes are really loose things you might not notice much. It may also be too early to tell. Tracking for a week can be useful if for no other reason than to force honesty on yourself. I did a one week photo journal. Took a picture of EVERYTHING. Lots of times I had second thoughts about eating some little thing because I'd have to take a picture.
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                          • #14
                            I'd guess of the top of my head without knowing portion sizes and ingredients this daily would be around 1500 cals max, maybe even 1200. It seems like you're making good food choices.

                            It seems like there is something else grossly wrong if you're not losing weight. I'm thinking you shouldn't have to IF and whatnot if you have a lot of weight to lose.

                            Do you have cheat meals? How consistent are you with your diet? Do you have/use a kitchen scale?

                            Originally posted by Grausel View Post
                            Thanks

                            Here's what I'm eating today.
                            Breakfast: 2 eggs cooked in butter with a handful of spinach and a couple tablespoons of salsa, one cup of coffee with a splash of
                            cream.
                            Lunch: leftover chicken curry with vegetables (curry sauce made with homemade chicken stock & coconut milk) over zucchini
                            noodles & 1/2 an avocado
                            Dinner: green pepper steak over a cup of cauli rice

                            I did a strength training class this morning using free weights (do this 2x a week) and I usually walk about 3 miles 2-3x a week also. No medications other than a prenatal vitamin as we are trying for baby#2 later this year.

                            Thanks and I'd love to hear more of your thoughts!
                            SW: 12/28/11 - 190.5 @ 24% BF
                            CW: 3/7/12 - 179 @ 21% BF
                            GW: 155-160 @ 10% BF

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                              What are you using to gauge your progress? Weight can often be less reliable than measurements or clothing fit. If your clothes are really loose things you might not notice much. It may also be too early to tell. Tracking for a week can be useful if for no other reason than to force honesty on yourself. I did a one week photo journal. Took a picture of EVERYTHING. Lots of times I had second thoughts about eating some little thing because I'd have to take a picture.
                              If she's really overweight, she should have noticed at least something, especially with a whole30. This screams thyroid to me, personally.
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