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    Is ham and bacon okay to eat?


    The only bacon I buy and eat is the uncured kind.

    The only ham I buy and eat is the kind that comes with the bone, has no sugars, with only 2% of the salt and nitrates crap.


    I dont eat it all the time, but a few chunks/slices every couple of days with some romaine lettuce leaves as a make-shift wrap/sandwich... is that paleo or am I just kidding myself?


    Also, salami. I love Genoa salami.


    Typically, Genoa salami is a pork salami, although some producers mix in beef and veal as well. In addition to the loosely chopped pork, Genoa salami also includes garlic, salt, fennel seeds, whole peppercorns, and a small amount of white wine. The peppercorns create explosions of spice in the finished product, making Genoa salami a rather zesty food to eat. By tradition, white peppercorns are usually used in Genoa salami.


    This says to me that Genoa salami that one gets from a deli or meat market should be rather primal. But I know they prolly add the nitrates and extra salt to it. So, again with the ham, am I just kidding myself or not?


    And if I AM kidding myself, will this ruin me? I mean, if I am LC and 100% paleo/primal friendly food in order to lose weight, will eating ham, salami, bacon once every couple of days stop the weight loss?


    Oh, and I fast daily, eating 1 meal a day 3-4 days a week, and eating 2 meals a day the other 3-4 days of the week. Never 3 meals a day.

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    Anyone have any ideas on this?

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    • #3
      Bump ... curious about this too.

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      • #4
        I like both on occasion, had some ham in a BAS for dinner. I don't think it has effected my weight loss, one thing i have noticed is that the more processed hams are really low fat so I try to stick with ham on the bone.
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        • #5
          I love ham, and we eat it often. Like the op we buy ham on the bone, without sugar and extra crap. We're not concerned with nitrates really.

          Genoa salami is a great treat! Mmmmmm so tangy and spicy. I don't consider it a staple food, but definitely a great primal treat.
          The more I see the less I know for sure.
          -John Lennon

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          • #6
            I've decided to eat my Genoa Salami and my Ham since the ones I get have no sugars or corn products involved and my ham I get from off the bone.
            Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me."--Ferris Bueller, 1986
            Check me out @ my blog: Retrospective Caveman
            I set up a Facebook Group for all those who are eating and living Paleo/Primal

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            • #7
              Concerns with ham or salami can be classified into:

              a) Hidden carbs: sugar or starches and all their variations (including, for eg.: evaporated organic cane juice).
              b) Salt content.
              c) Too lean. This can be a concern if there are not enough fats in other parts of the diet.
              d) Much less bang for the buck (i.e. protein / $ or fat / $) than when buying fresh meats. I find that getting the good stuff costs much more than just buying quality meats and preparing them. You get a little convenience in exchange, and it'll be up to you to gauge how much you value this convenience.

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              • #8
                For bacon, check this article out:

                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-quick-guide-to-bacon/.
                A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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                • #9
                  Cured and smoked meats are my passion, and I love making them myself. Just made 8 pounds of hickory smoked sausage yesterday with all primal ingredients. Some store-bought varieties are okay, and they're often my go-to food when I have no other options at work. The convenience factor is huge, and they're often healthier than the other available options like fried food or Chinese take-out. We've talked a lot about nitrates here; there's nothing to worry about. Most of the "nitrate-free" brands use celery juice, which the FDA doesn't force them to disclose, but it's all the same thing. I'd far rather there were nitrates and no botulism, than have botulism and no nitrates! And the trace amounts of carbs in store-bought sausage are not enough to worry about, although I often wonder why the manufacturers put that crap in their sausage. It's certainly unnecessary.

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                  • #10
                    A word of caution, though.
                    Smoked meats, bacon, sausages are so very tasty, it's easy for some people to eat WAY more than they need.
                    I was one of those people ;-)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kuno1chi View Post
                      A word of caution, though.
                      Smoked meats, bacon, sausages are so very tasty, it's easy for some people to eat WAY more than they need.
                      I was one of those people ;-)
                      Oh, so very true! LOL!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sharonll View Post
                        Cured and smoked meats are my passion, and I love making them myself. Just made 8 pounds of hickory smoked sausage yesterday with all primal ingredients. Some store-bought varieties are okay, and they're often my go-to food when I have no other options at work. The convenience factor is huge, and they're often healthier than the other available options like fried food or Chinese take-out. We've talked a lot about nitrates here; there's nothing to worry about. Most of the "nitrate-free" brands use celery juice, which the FDA doesn't force them to disclose, but it's all the same thing. I'd far rather there were nitrates and no botulism, than have botulism and no nitrates! And the trace amounts of carbs in store-bought sausage are not enough to worry about, although I often wonder why the manufacturers put that crap in their sausage. It's certainly unnecessary.
                        Do you blog? I'm dying to learn more about curing and smoking meats. Hubby and love playing with our smoker, but don't know much yet.
                        The more I see the less I know for sure.
                        -John Lennon

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lil_earthmomma View Post
                          Do you blog? I'm dying to learn more about curing and smoking meats. Hubby and love playing with our smoker, but don't know much yet.
                          I started blogging for a while last year, but gave it up for lack of time. Nowadays, I find the time I spend on this forum is about equal to what I used to spend blogging, but actually more enjoyable. There are a few good sausage making blogs and great recipes online. Here are some from my list:

                          Serdelki sausage http://www.wedlinydomowe.com/sausage-recipes/serdelki.htm

                          Polish sausage http://schmidling.com/polsaus.htm

                          Country sausage http://www.lets-make-sausage.com/country-sausage-recipe.html

                          Sausage tips http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88

                          Cooking sausage http://www.wedlinydomowe.com/cooking-sausages.htm

                          Great sausage information and recipes http://www.wedlinydomowe.com/index.html

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