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    Hi,
    I'm new to the forum and have a question about IF. For the sake of argument let's say I calculate my daily protein needs to be 100g based on lean body mass. If I Fast from 7pm in the evening to lunch the next day (I never eat breakfast, never have), is the intent that I consume the full 100 g during the eating period or do I just eat till I'm full? I would find it very difficult to get all my protein in if only consuming 2 meals (lunch and dinner).

    Oh, and if anyone has any ideas on how to kick a 15 year diet coke habit (don't even ask how many a day) let me know. Tried cold turkey, weening myself and nothing has worked. I can't stay awake at work without it! Ironically, it was my doctor who suggested it years ago when I complained that I was falling asleep in class. He first suggested coffee, but I hate the taste..

    Thanks!

    Spresh

  • #2
    I'm a short ass 5'4 120lb male, and I manage to get close to that in one meal(like 80-90g). 50g in two meals is nothing. Just consume more meat and eggs. As for the coke thing, just tell everyone around you to punch you in the face if they see you drinking one. If that doesn't work then imagine a kitten dies every time you crack open one.
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    • #3
      Thanks for the response. And I love the ideas for quitting the diet coke. That just might work!

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      • #4
        For me, making dietary changes is easier if I educate myself about why I want to make the change. Do some research on diet Coke and aspartame and convince yourself of how terrible it is for you. You'll think about it every time you break down and have a Coke and eventually it'll make you feel like crap so badly that you won't get any pleasure from drinking the Coke anymore. At least that's how it works for me with other dietary tweaks. I used to be a nut fiend and would eat tons of almond butter and other nuts until I found out that they're really high in omega-6 and that I needed to moderate my intake for optimal health.

        As for the protein thing, I like MightyMouse's take. More is generally better, but you shouldn't be forcing yourself to eat more. Unless you're purposely trying to gain weight or something.

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        • #5
          I've never been a soda addict, but know some people who are. My suggestion if you don't like coffee: try switching to unsweetened black tea. Still has a little caffeine, but much better for your health. I suppose it would be ok to add some type of sweetener like honey or stevia if you really needed it.

          Hubby used to drink his tea SWEET... like southern sweet tea. Tons of sugar. I've weaned him down (gradually) to about half the sugar he used to use. It takes time, but can be done with patience.
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          • #6
            cold turkey

            for quitting diet coke, try cold turkey for "X" days (set X to something feasible but yet longer than you'd like). Then PROMISE yourself you'll get a diet coke afterwards. I think if you get a momentum going for say 10-30 days, you'll find at the end of your time that you feel so much better without it, you won't even want to keep the promise. But if you do, no biggie, have the coke, then try a little longer abstinence. This technique seems to work for me with "habit changing"-- if I know I am going to get my vice "no matter what" after a period of waiting, most of the time after I've gone that long without I no longer want it. And if I do, I get it, enjoy it, and then move on.
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            • #7
              don't know what is so addicting about diet soda. i have seen this to be very common.,however. caffiene? something in the deadly chemicals contained that stimulates our dopamine/reward pathway? you hate coffee. try tea maybe?

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              • #8
                I eat 70-100 grams of protein easily in a 2-4 hour window daily.

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                • #9
                  It's not that difficult to eat 100+ grams of protein in one meal, a 300g steak and a few eggs will get you there! If you have to, supplement with a little whey protein to make up the difference. Best of luck!

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                  • #10
                    100g protein. Yes you can eat this. Yes you should eat this.

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                    • #11
                      I would try switching out the Diet Coke for water. You know, sub in a couple of bottles of water the first week, two more the second week, until you are just drinking water... If you need something for the taste, I use one of those little Mio bottles and give my water a tiny squirt to flavor it a bit. Or, you can slice up a lemon and use a piece or two in your water.
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                      • #12
                        Diet soda is poison. You're body doesnt want it. Every time you want a diet soda, drink a glass of water (minimum). You're body wants a gallon of water a day and your giving it a gallon of poison.

                        You don't "need" diet soda. That's a mental problem. Time to grow up and give you're body what it actually needs. Not what you think it needs. (sorry)

                        I drank 4-10 sodas a day for 15 years. Drinking copious amounts of water was the key to changing. I also relied on some sparkling waters with dinner to get over the hump. It took a while, but its easy now. Just do it. What's the point of all this other business if you're going to fill up on poison all day?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by yodiewan View Post
                          For me, making dietary changes is easier if I educate myself about why I want to make the change. Do some research on diet Coke and aspartame and convince yourself of how terrible it is for you. You'll think about it every time you break down and have a Coke and eventually it'll make you feel like crap so badly that you won't get any pleasure from drinking the Coke anymore. At least that's how it works for me with other dietary tweaks. I used to be a nut fiend and would eat tons of almond butter and other nuts until I found out that they're really high in omega-6 and that I needed to moderate my intake for optimal health.

                          As for the protein thing, I like MightyMouse's take. More is generally better, but you shouldn't be forcing yourself to eat more. Unless you're purposely trying to gain weight or something.
                          This.

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                          • #14
                            Personally I think IF is a great way to conquer food addictions. I do a 36 hour fast once a week and only take water. I think the 36 hours is important because it's long enough for you to deal with the mental demons. Skipping a meal isn't the same mental challenge.

                            Over repeated fasts you start to realize you don't suffer from hunger during the fasts, and you also realize how many food cravings have nothing to do with hunger. You also realize your body functions supremely during an IF. I've even started doing workouts during the fast.

                            I think this approach might help you view the Diet Coke in a different way. Just a thought.
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                            • #15
                              I've been experimenting a lot lately with IF, anywhere from 12, 16, to 24 hours so far, and I've noticed huge changes. I don't always "make up for" the lost calories, fat, protein at my next meal, but sometimes I do. Just listen to your body and do what it asks, although it does take some practice to figure that out. Also, water seems key to quitting a lot oh addictions. I was a smoker for 14 years, and when I was quitting, I drank a glass or two of water every time I had a craving. It's been 12 years now since I've smoked.

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