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  • A study-Low carb reduces hunger BUT the conclusion isn't what you think.

    A write up on this study shows that it is not just calories in vs calories out.
    Two study groups on a calorie restricted weight loss diet same % of protein, fat and carbs. One group ate their carbs throughout the day the other only at night. Those that ate their carbs at night had the biggest weight loss.

    The group who didn't eat carbs during the day were less hungry and less preoccupied with food. The conclusion wasn't eat less carbs rather eating them at night is not as bad as once thought - face palm.

    I am cross posting this study in another thread because I also want to discuss the calories in vs calories out issue.
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    The conclusion wasn't eat less carbs rather eating them at night is not as bad as once thought - face palm.
    You mean like eating a piece of fruit for dessert? Whodathunk!
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    • #3
      *cough* *cough*

      Is Late Night Eating Better for Fat Loss and Health? | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health

      The fact that this was written 6 months ago shows how high atop his game Martin is.
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      • #4
        This is interesting, as my experience concurs with the results of this study.

        I eat a very low carb breakfast, <10 g, 50 g of carbs for lunch and 100 - 130 g of carbs in my evening meal (which is post-workout at least 4 nights a week).

        Total calories ~2500 a day.

        I've found this is the ideal pattern for me, and seems to be optimal for maximising my energy levels, metabolic rate, and optimising sleep. No hunger outside meals at all. I am very active so I'm not planning to lower my carbs much unless I feel I need to.
        F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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        • #5
          You mean being unconscious while your body is dealing with the carbs and insulin/blood sugar cycle is easier to manage than being awake and surrounded by office pastries?
          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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          • #6
            Yeah- I wonder how restricted the calories were? Like were they in a lab or out in real life? Very easy for a carb addict to eat carbs and not have it register as something you ate in a food journal or whatnot.

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            • #7
              Hmmm and just think what the average american has for breakfast

              Orange juice/ w/toast haha or a donut/bagel/pastry. Standard american breakfast is more carb loaded than any other meal.
              Primal since March 2011

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              • #8
                Originally posted by activia View Post
                Hmmm and just think what the average american has for breakfast

                Orange juice/ w/toast haha or a donut/bagel/pastry. Standard american breakfast is more carb loaded than any other meal.
                You left out my old faves--pancakes, waffles, syrup, and hashbrowns! Or, poptarts and cap-n-crunch...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                  You mean being unconscious while your body is dealing with the carbs and insulin/blood sugar cycle is easier to manage than being awake and surrounded by office pastries?
                  Yes, I guess so. This means that the glycogen stores in my muscles are topped back up mostly while I'm sleeping. I think this assists muscle repair post-workout, and can help me gain muscle. I know that fat and protein are important for building muscle, so I don't skimp on those in my evening meal.
                  Last edited by paleo-bunny; 01-16-2012, 09:13 AM. Reason: added quote for reference
                  F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                  • #10
                    I find that I feel better when I eat meat and eggs only for lunch and save veggies and tubers for supper (and after big workouts). Carbs induce grazing... I always imagine myself turning into a cow...
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                    • #11
                      Interesting study. I wish i had more of a science brain... for instance this quote from the study: [/QUOTE]Did you know? Leptin, which is still purported as "the satiety hormone" is secreted in a diurnal pattern. In the average human being (who obviously eats >=3 carb-containing "meals" a day) serum leptin peaks at 1am, falls in the course of the day, reaches its nadir at 1pm and starts rising again at about 4pm. Serum levels of the adiponectin, a adipocyte hormone which plays a role in energy regulation as well as in lipid and carbohydrate metabolism, reduc[es] serum glucose and lipid levels, improves insulin sensitivity exhibitsand an anti-inflammatory effects (Yildiz. 2004) and is generally regarded as possible "link between obesity, insulin resistance, and the metabolic syndrome" (Gil-Campos. 2004), on the other hand, follows a diurnal pattern
                      with zeniths at 11am and 1am and a general decline at night with a nadir at 4am.[/QUOTE]

                      How does eating carbs in the evening affect this? Can any of the brilliant science minded folks on this forum explain this in terms a liberal arts major can understand? (grin)

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                      • #12
                        I have best energy levels when I eat mainky protein and fat for breakfast and lunch, and have my carbs - veggies - at dinner.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Leida View Post
                          I find that I feel better when I eat meat and eggs only for lunch and save veggies and tubers for supper (and after big workouts). Carbs induce grazing... I always imagine myself turning into a cow...
                          +1

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                          • #14
                            Martin from lean gains is on top of his shit... carbs and spiking insulin before bed lets your body shuttle everything into your muscles and do anabolic activities while you sleep... who would have thought lol. I mean even CW knows anabolic activity happens while you sleep, and yet eating at night is bad bad bad

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Leida View Post
                              I find that I feel better when I eat meat and eggs only for lunch and save veggies and tubers for supper (and after big workouts). Carbs induce grazing... I always imagine myself turning into a cow...
                              +2

                              Even when I ate the SAD I knew that carb-heavy meals early in the day would make me feel much worse than if I had them in the evening.

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