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    I've been having 30 minutes of sun exposure every day, since starting Paleo and loving it.

    Reestablishing my love of the sun, and enjoying the warmth of it on my skin has been great. Except... I KNOW I am getting sun damage. Not so much worried about melanoma, and I've always refused to wear chemical-laden sun-screen, but for the past few months have been watching this massive age spot (liver spot) appearing, and darkening, in all it's ugly glory!

    So, just back from having had a huge brown ugliness removed by laser. in a bit of pain now, I have to say, and the smell of my own burning flesh... well, that's another reason not to get any more!

    The dr. doing the procedure said I should wear sunscreen... I said, no way. She said, I could get more of these ugly spots if I didn't.

    Here's my question, does eating Paleo help protect the skin from sun damage as well as skin cancer? Or, am I really gonna get more of them getting my daily dose of Vit D?
    SW: 68 kg. * CW: 61.5 kg. * GW: 60 kg or less...
    “Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.” ~ Buddha

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    I would say, yes~ eating paleo/primal will help ~ but I might use a mineral type sunscreen (like Sunforgettable) on my face~

    from Sunscreen Alternative: Nutritional approaches to preventing sunburn and skin aging

    In conclusion, there is strong evidence fruit, vegetables, and omega-3 fatty acids do provide protection against skin damage from the sun while also providing a myriad of other health benefits.
    Last edited by Nady; 01-06-2012, 04:29 AM.

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    • #3
      I say, "no". I get spots easily, too. I'm not entirely sure sunscreen helps either, since I notice that my skin darkens even more when I wear sunscreen than not. I get really dark.

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      • #4
        OK, a 50/50 split between the 'yeses' and the 'nos'.

        I'm a bit nervous about those mineral sunscreens, cause they use nano technology - and it's a notoriously unregulated industry. I just don't like the idea of absorbing anything I wouldn't eat through my skin!

        I wonder what Mrs. Grok would have used for her sunscreen? Perhaps a thick layer of mud, or bentonite clay...
        SW: 68 kg. * CW: 61.5 kg. * GW: 60 kg or less...
        “Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.” ~ Buddha

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        • #5
          Do you take vitamin D? Some people find they tolerate sun exposure more when they are vitamin D replete.
          Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

          http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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          • #6
            I would say no as well. Getting a tan, even just a mild one, leads to cell damage which leads to skin cancer. Natural sunlight is good, skin cancer is not, your spots are your bodies warning signs that need to be listened to. I would wear sunscreen a hat and sunglasses for cataracts.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jammies View Post
              Do you take vitamin D? Some people find they tolerate sun exposure more when they are vitamin D replete.
              I have heard this as well. I myself take vitamin d3 and I seem to have more tolerance with the sun. But you have to know your own limits which is determined by your overall skin tone. If you are a lighter person and burn easy you definitely want to cover up, wear hats etc. if you are going to be out for a prolonged period of exposure. For lighter skinned people I would recommend 15 minutes of sun exposure before you need to cover up. Other alternatives may be to get your sun exposure in the late afternoon to prevent burning. But overall you have to know your own body and know when you start to burn. It only take a couple really bad burns to really increase your risk of skin cancer.
              "If man made it, don't eat it" - Jack Lallane

              People say I am on a "crazy" diet. What is so crazy about eating veggies, fruits, seafood and organ meats? Just because I don't eat whole wheat and processed food doesn't make my diet "crazy". Maybe everyone else with a SAD are the "crazy" ones for putting that junk in their system.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by thaijinx View Post
                OK, a 50/50 split between the 'yeses' and the 'nos'.

                I'm a bit nervous about those mineral sunscreens, cause they use nano technology - and it's a notoriously unregulated industry. I just don't like the idea of absorbing anything I wouldn't eat through my skin!

                I wonder what Mrs. Grok would have used for her sunscreen? Perhaps a thick layer of mud, or bentonite clay...
                Nano technology the mineral sunscreen I use, Sunforgettable, is like mineral makeup~ but without color~ no nanos, just sits on the skin as a powder~

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Balance View Post
                  I have heard this as well. I myself take vitamin d3 and I seem to have more tolerance with the sun. But you have to know your own limits which is determined by your overall skin tone. If you are a lighter person and burn easy you definitely want to cover up, wear hats etc. if you are going to be out for a prolonged period of exposure. For lighter skinned people I would recommend 15 minutes of sun exposure before you need to cover up. Other alternatives may be to get your sun exposure in the late afternoon to prevent burning. But overall you have to know your own body and know when you start to burn. It only take a couple really bad burns to really increase your risk of skin cancer.
                  I agree completely with this. Sun exposure comes with sun damage. There is really no way around that. Vitamin D MAY help minimize that, but no way to stop it.

                  Personally, I wear a sun hat and glasses when out for short walk. Sun screen on my face for longer hikes.
                  Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                  http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                  • #10
                    I do take vit D, and I make sure I don't burn.

                    As I said, I'm not so worried about skin cancer (maybe I should be) but, I've spend most of my life in the tropics...

                    Hence, I do already have quite a lot of sun damage!
                    SW: 68 kg. * CW: 61.5 kg. * GW: 60 kg or less...
                    “Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.” ~ Buddha

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                    • #11
                      You absolutely should be worried about skin cancer... even if you don't burn, sun damage adds up over time and can lead to cancer.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Raine View Post
                        You absolutely should be worried about skin cancer... even if you don't burn, sun damage adds up over time and can lead to cancer.
                        I just don't buy that! I've known peopel who hardly see the sun get it, and others who are always in it NEVER have it! It's not just as simple as being in the sun... Besides, I just can't get my head around the sun being a 'bad' thing. It gives us life for starters, and if our ancestors got skin cancer from the sun, we would have died out millennia ago!

                        Don't get me wrong, I'm not out laying in it every day, for hours on end, and, I'm not saying thatdoesn't damage the skin, because my ugly age spot shows that it does... but in my mind, it HAS to be a combination of sun + other factors (bad diet, chemicals in skin care, pollution, vitamin deficiency. etc)

                        And, if I'm going for a walk in nature, I absolutely refuse to cover up every inch, and slather on god-knows-what sh$t onto my skin, where I can absorb it into my body.
                        SW: 68 kg. * CW: 61.5 kg. * GW: 60 kg or less...
                        “Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.” ~ Buddha

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                        • #13
                          Gradual exposure to the sun with some tanning is not as harmful as a great dose of sun causing a blitering peeling sun burn. I grew up on a beach and at my age (I just turned 41 on the 5th) I have had a couple of dermatoligist determined suspicious moles removed and and biospied. I have more damage fromthat scariring than the sun! Dermatoligist have big mortages ... beware. they are hacks!
                          Integrity is what we do when nobody's watching.

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                          • #14
                            I just don't buy that! I've known peopel who hardly see the sun get it, and others who are always in it NEVER have it! It's not just as simple as being in the sun... Besides, I just can't get my head around the sun being a 'bad' thing. It gives us life for starters, and if our ancestors got skin cancer from the sun, we would have died out millennia ago!
                            Exactly. I'd say genetics and hereditary have a lot to do with it. If you're fair with blue or green eyes you need to be more careful. But the recommended amount is 15 minutes a day (?) and I can't see that being significant enough to worry about.

                            As for the age spot... well, I know they're not gorgeous but I'd say the benefits of regular sun exposure far outweighs the benefits of momentary vanity. After all, I'm sure one day we'll all wish we only had ONE to worry about! ^.^
                            Lindsay Groks On

                            "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint."
                            -- Mark Twain

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                            • #15
                              It depends if you are talking about melanoma skin cancer (the malignant one that can kill you) or basal or squamous cell carcinoma (which are not going to kill you but can disfigure and cause lots of suffering). There is really no doubt that sun exposure causes basal cell carcinoma. Farmers in rural areas get tons of it - always on sun exposed areas of their bodies.

                              Melanoma is more controversial. I believe there is even data suggesting sun exposure can be protective.
                              Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                              http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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