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    In terms of phytoestrogen activity, how bad is soy sauce? As someone who is looking to increase their testosterone and general energy, should it be avoided?

    What alternatives could I use on my rice?

    EDIT: This thread kind of derailed. The soy sauce I'm using does not contain wheat or gluten. I'm specifically just wondering about the phytoestrogens. How big of a factor are they to someone looking to improve their hormones?
    Last edited by Bosnic; 04-13-2012, 02:20 PM.

  • #2
    I have no idea about phytoestrogen activity or increased testoterone.... but I can offer this much:

    Soy sauce is not gluten free and should be avoided. A good substitute is coconut aminos.
    Last edited by Tricialisha; 01-05-2012, 05:55 PM.

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    • #3
      You can buy gluten-free Tamari. Most health food grocery stores carry it. The stuff I have is so concentrated that I have to add water to it, so I get more out of it.
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      • #4
        Bragg Liquid Aminos are a natural soy sauce alternative that is gluten-free and tastes just like soy sauce. I get it in the organic section of my grocery store.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by helpmerhonda View Post
          Bragg Liquid Aminos are a natural soy sauce alternative that is gluten-free and tastes just like soy sauce. I get it in the organic section of my grocery store.
          But it uses unfermented soy, so it will have more of the soy anti-nutrients.

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          • #6
            Aminos are a fantastic substitute. My mom introduced aminos and I used it for ages thinking it was soy sauce! Great in marinades as well!
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            • #7
              I use tamari (fermented soy with no wheat or sugar added) at home, but to be honest I don't sweat it if I'm eating out as it doesn't happen often. I don't think fermented soy is an issue, though I may be wrong. For me the wheat in the sauce is a bigger issue.
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              • #8
                I know its not trustworthy, but the Kikoman brand does not list wheat as an ingredient.

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                • #9
                  Kikkoman soy sauce does contain wheat. Even their tamari does!... Don't know how they even get away with calling it tamari sauce.
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                  • #10
                    LaChoy soy sauce is gluten-free. There is no wheat in it. Kikkoman is not.

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                    • #11
                      Are you making fried rice or seasoning steamed rice?

                      If the latter, have you tried dressing it with salt dissolved in rice wine vinegar as sushi-ya do?
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                      • #12
                        I saw fish sauce used in hot and sour soup paleo recipes. Not sure how much more healthful it is... Or go with plain salted (or unslated) rice, coconut rice, broth-flavored rice, cinnamon rice, onion, hot pepper and tomato Mexician rice...

                        Why do you even eat rice? If it is post workout, on a carb-up day, I would actually avoid salt, because the last thing you want is extra water retention.
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                        • #13
                          The Soy Sauce I use doesn't have any ingredients that contain gluten. Does it definitely not contain wheat if it isn't stated?

                          The reason I'm iffy about soy is because I feel as though my hormone levels are lacking, and I don't want to do anything that could worsen them. I think that the negative effect of soy sauce is very minimal, and I think I'll still use it for lack of an alternative.

                          The reason I eat rice is because without it I wouldn't be consuming enough calories. If I didn't eat rice I would be going for sugar-filled processed foods.

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                          • #14
                            Fish sauce varies. You have to read the label.

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                            • #15
                              I literally cannot believe they put wheat in soy sauce. It's mind boggling. I was floored when I saw that a few months ago. It's like gluten is making an insidious attempt to sneak its way into my life no matter what I do.

                              I have never noticed any estrogenic effects when I eat soy sauce, and I tend to eat unreasonable amounts of sushi. My mother, though, (post menopausal) notices that when she eats soy sauce with any regularity, she tends to pack on weight. She has had a very consistent diet for years (although not paleo), so a weight fluctuation usually has an easy to pin down source for her.
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