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    Greetings,

    I wanted to see what folks think of Prostate health supplement formulas? Has any taken them? Recommend them? I am 38 and got into Primal almost 2 years ago. I live it 80/20 for the most part but making an effort to improve that. My Grandfather had Prostate cancer and had his removed. And my father as well who is 70. He was diagnosed about 3 years ago and had his prostate removed. His PSA started climbing and underwent radiation and all is good. I fully believe how I live my life (diet, lifestyle etc) is the biggest determining factor in whether I develop Prostate cancer but do believe there is a hereditary component. As I approach 40 I've been thinking about it. I have seen Prostate formulas at Whole Foods and one in particular is from New Chapter (I take their Men's one daily multi).

    Here is the product.

    Prostate 5LX ® targeted herbal prostate and men's health supplements from New Chapter®

    Along with my mutil I take 2000-4000 IU of Vit D and plenty of fish oil. No other supplements other than trying to eat well.

    Just looking for some opinions as I'm considering whether to start taking this prostate health supplement.

    Thanks-

  • #2
    Here is the amazing fix for all prostate problems! Also prevents prostate cancers.

    A very simple & inexpensive iodine supplement does it all !
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post698656

    I have just completed more than 1 year of research to find many testimonials of men who have cured their Prostate Problems with iodine.

    Also many references to men who have cured their Erectile Dysfunction and Low Testosterone. Also with many doctor reports on iodine & the Prostate. Complete Report here:
    http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Cures-Prostate

    Now Manly Men with prostate problems have an alternative to butchering, drugs & radiation. No more being stabbed in the Prostate with a miniature 12 pronged PITCHFORK !

    Ladies, Iodine works its miracles on female organs, too!

    Grizz
    Last edited by Grizz; 12-15-2013, 03:46 AM.

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    • #3
      It has been 1 year since my last message, and I've completed a great deal of research on this subject. There is REAL HOPE for men suffering with prostate problems, even for men with prostate cancer.
      Here is a Truly amazing Testimonial about how well Iodine works to cure Prostate Problems. He has also reported some excellent research into iodine. Excerpts here:
      “I've had all the usual extreme prostate symptoms for many years (I'm 59) and have had a diagnosis of BPH (enlargement) and prostatitis from age 35. In the last 5 years things started getting worse: blood in my semen and urine, blood leaking out up to 12 hours after sex, dry ejaculation: no semen released until hours after orgasm when it would leak out, testicle pain off and on, knife-like pain radiating into my penis for a split second, then about a second or two later it hits again, this can go on for several minutes, painful ejaculation (every time), urgency and frequency causing me to get up as often as 10 times in the night to piss (usually 3 or 4 times) despite fluid restriction. Intolerance to caffeine and alcohol - I've given them both up. I have tried all the herbal remedies, pomegranate, curcumin, lycopene, selenium, vitamins, minerals etc and nothing has worked. I could not tolerate palmetto due to headaches. I've spent many hundreds of dollars on avodart and flomax. I've had a prostate biopsy to rule out cancer because my PSA was 10 and a cystoscopy that showed the enlargement. The avodart lowered the PSA to 5 but the symptoms didn't improve very much. I had to stop the avodart because of back pain, stomach pain (acid), foot and hand pain and general weakness. I tried starting up again several times and the upper-mid back pain always comes back within a day. I've had about 5 very painful episodes of urinary retention and blockage. Recently the pain on the always-dry ejaculation had got so bad and the after-effects so nasty: very frequent painful urination, i.e. every 10 minutes for a few hours, and the leaking of blood and semen that I have started abstaining from sex and decided that I might have to give up sex forever.

      In my job I research medical topics for doctors and have access to very old medical journals (from the 1800s to the present). I found some very old references to the use of iodine in BPH. When I searched the internet I found a few guys (google prostate Grizz) had had amazing success with it, so I thought, I've tried everything else, why not give it a try. I looked into the history of iodine use and it was used for many conditions for at least 130 years and was considered the most important medicine a doctor could use (for many conditions). I didn't think it could be that dangerous considering the number of years it was used though I am aware modern doctors have been taught it's deadly. (It's actually a critically essential mineral but you can easily overdose.)

      I took 5 drops of 5 % tincture of iodine (containing iodine and potassium iodide) in a glass of water every morning. Do not take it at night because it is a stimulant. Read the warning below before you try this. 5 drops of 5% tincture is very roughly 25 mg (or 25,000 micrograms) of iodine…... hikers use roughly the same dose to sterilize a litre of pond water to drink without ill effects …..
      …. I also painted my balls with the pure tincture mixed with olive oil (as suggested on the internet) because it is absorbed through the skin and that is close to the prostate. That was a mistake because it burnt the skin after 2 days and it peeled off like a sunburn. I switched to iodine sold for supplement use in a glycerine base and that was very messy and delivered a much lower dose of iodine to my balls/prostate. The very first night after using the tincture on my balls everytime I awoke to piss, I had an erection (that hasn't happened for about 40 years during the night). I did not have any problems with erections before. The erections have continued almost every time I get up in the night now.

      I stopped painting after a week as it was messy. After less than a week - I think it was about 4 or 5 days of the oral doses and ball painting, I decided to masturbate. I couldn't believe the result. I shot semen 10 inches or so with no pain, no blood, no leaking afterward, no frequent urge to piss etc. I hadn't had a wet orgasm in the daytime in about 5 years. My prostate feels much much better, I don't get the pain when urinating and the stream is stronger. I'm only getting up once or twice a night to piss. I can go for hours when I'm out and hold my bladder if I need to, without pain. I have only been taking the oral iodine for 3 weeks. All the symptoms improved after less than a week.

      …….There are some doctors out there who are promoting iodine such as Dr. Flechas, Abraham and Brownstein for many conditions including breast cancer and have written books and papers on it. …...

      Conclusion: I am a very happy man. I'm sorry for all the men out there who've received the same advice and treatment as I have and are suffering terribly, because modern medicine abandons it's own history and so doctors today and their patients will not know about this possible treatment. Interesting question: could iodine help prevent or treat prostate cancer? The Japanese consume much larger amounts of iodine than North Americans (around 12 mg per day - a very large dose) and breast and prostate cancer are much much lower in Japan. Another question: Could iodine be a substitute for viagra? My experience would suggest that possibility.
      Posted on 04/11/13, 04:22 pm
      Complete details with many Doctor Reports on why iodine works so well here:
      http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Cures-Prostate

      Many more Testimonials here, see Prostate:
      http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials

      Comments & Warning: Iodine Doctors have proven that iodine is safe when used as directed using the Dr. Brownstein Iodine Protocol.
      http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout
      If a man takes iodine without the required co-supplements, damage to the thyroid is very likely. The Selenium is extremely vital & must always be taken with iodine. Iodine gets unfair bad publicity because people are taking iodine without the required co-supplements. Always consult with your healthcare professional before taking supplements
      I recommend working with an iodine trained ( or local Naturopathic/Holistic ) doctor for prostate problems. Traditional doctors know nothing about iodine & were never trained in Med School about iodine. They have deleted their entire 100+ year history of iodine being a MAJOR medicine for most disease:
      Iodine Literate Practitoners Directory

      Grizz
      Last edited by Grizz; 01-03-2014, 03:04 AM.

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      • #4
        I have had prostrate "issues" for 3 or 4 years now i am 53 years old. Should I try Kelp tablets?
        Last edited by johnny767; 01-03-2014, 05:37 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by johnny767 View Post
          I have had prostrate "issues" for 3 or 4 years now i am 53 years old. Should I try Kelp tablets?
          Johnny,
          I know seafoods sound logical and seem to be appealing. Unfortunately, seafoods are not recommended for MANY reasons.
          Reasons why Seafood is not recommended
          - - - Seafood contaminated with radiation Pacific Ocean from Japan
          - - - Seafish contaminated with Mercury
          - - - Seafish contaminated with Arsenic
          - - - Kelp contaminated with Arsenic & Mercury. Contamination with heavy metals can be a serious problem with sea vegetation. Recently, 8 of 9 herbal kelp supplements from a health food store were found to have excessive levels of arsenic in them (74) . For this reason, and because only iodide is present, this is not a preferred source of this iodine. Our body needs both iodine and potassium iodide.
          - - - Seaweed is no longer a healthy food

          Lugols + iodoral Iodine is pure and have the correct ratio of iodine & iodide.
          See more with links here:
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...QK_KzvG4/edit#

          Additionally, taking iodine in any form without selenium risks thyroid problems. Also, people are so loaded down with the toxins of Fluoride, Bromide & chlorine from our food & water that it takes 50 mg of iodine with co-supplements to detox and restore proper iodine levels to our cells.


          For all of these reasons, the iodine doctors suggest taking the Dr. Brownstein Iodine Protocol to safely supplement with iodine.
          http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout
          Dr. Brownstein has treated thousands of patients over the past years, so his protocol is time tested & proven.

          I think it is very important to follow a doctor's protocol for iodine and I prefer the Dr. Brownstein Protocol because it has the longest history of success.
          Also this:
          Work with an Iodine Trained Doctor
          It is recommended to work with your Naturopathic/holistic Doctor for all treatments using vitamins, iodine & minerals. See these listings for Iodine Trained Doctors:
          Iodine Literate Practitoners Directory
          Integrative Medicine From ACAM - the voice of integrative medicine - American College for Advancement in Medicine
          Traditional doctors know nothing of iodine & were never trained in Med School about iodine. They have deleted their entire 100+ year history of iodine being a MAJOR medicine for most disease, in favor of expensive drugs & surgery. See more in History of Iodine. This comes through loud & clear in our testimonials for Fibrocystic Breast Disease, where doctors routinely prescribe mastectomies when iodine cures the disease reliably within months or even weeks.
          http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials

          So bottom line: I suggest reading the new Iodine Prostate document and following its recommendations, which includes many Doctor recommendations & doctor research:
          http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Cures-Prostate

          Hope this helps,
          Grizz
          Last edited by Grizz; 01-03-2014, 08:56 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Grizz View Post
            Johnny,
            I know seafoods sound logical and seem to be appealing. Unfortunately, seafoods are not recommended for MANY reasons.
            Reasons why Seafood is not recommended
            - - - Seafood contaminated with radiation Pacific Ocean from Japan
            - - - Seafish contaminated with Mercury
            - - - Seafish contaminated with Arsenic
            - - - Kelp contaminated with Arsenic & Mercury. Contamination with heavy metals can be a serious problem with sea vegetation. Recently, 8 of 9 herbal kelp supplements from a health food store were found to have excessive levels of arsenic in them (74) . For this reason, and because only iodide is present, this is not a preferred source of this iodine. Our body needs both iodine and potassium iodide.
            - - - Seaweed is no longer a healthy food

            Lugols + iodoral Iodine is pure and have the correct ratio of iodine & iodide.
            See more with links here:
            https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...QK_KzvG4/edit#

            Additionally, taking iodine in any form without selenium risks thyroid problems. Also, people are so loaded down with the toxins of Fluoride, Bromide & chlorine from our food & water that it takes 50 mg of iodine with co-supplements to detox and restore proper iodine levels to our cells.


            For all of these reasons, the iodine doctors suggest taking the Dr. Brownstein Iodine Protocol to safely supplement with iodine.
            http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Handout
            Dr. Brownstein has treated thousands of patients over the past years, so his protocol is time tested & proven.

            I think it is very important to follow a doctor's protocol for iodine and I prefer the Dr. Brownstein Protocol because it has the longest history of success.
            Also this:
            Work with an Iodine Trained Doctor
            It is recommended to work with your Naturopathic/holistic Doctor for all treatments using vitamins, iodine & minerals. See these listings for Iodine Trained Doctors:
            Iodine Literate Practitoners Directory
            Integrative Medicine From ACAM - the voice of integrative medicine - American College for Advancement in Medicine
            Traditional doctors know nothing of iodine & were never trained in Med School about iodine. They have deleted their entire 100+ year history of iodine being a MAJOR medicine for most disease, in favor of expensive drugs & surgery. See more in History of Iodine. This comes through loud & clear in our testimonials for Fibrocystic Breast Disease, where doctors routinely prescribe mastectomies when iodine cures the disease reliably within months or even weeks.
            http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials

            So bottom line: I suggest reading the new Iodine Prostate document and following its recommendations, which includes many Doctor recommendations & doctor research:
            http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Cures-Prostate

            Hope this helps,
            Grizz

            Grizz

            Thank you; I really appreciate it

            There is a fair bit to read there; it's all new to me.

            I live in the UK; I'm not sure if that affects anything.

            I actually eat a fair bit of seafood now (salmon, smoked salmon and tinned tuna)

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            • #7
              Johnny,
              This thread may help you find Lugols or iodoral in Europe:
              Re: New to Iodine and want advice on how to find affordable Lugol's in EU at Iodine Supplementation Support by VWT Team, message 2060341

              Amazon.Com UK also sells both Lugols and Iodoral:
              Amazon.co.uk: iodoral
              Lugols 15% in Europe = Lugols 5% in the USA, both are actual iodine per drop = 6mg. I know, its complicated & confusing, but is the iodine per drop that counts.

              You can save 90% of the cost by making your own Lugols iodine ($50 vs $800 per quart). It is just crystals dissolved in distilled water. Detailed recipes here:
              http://tinyurl.com/iodine-instructions

              You would need to eat 10 lbs of seafood a day to get enough iodine that is recommended by Dr. Brownstein.

              Grizz
              Last edited by Grizz; 01-03-2014, 10:38 AM.

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              • #8
                Grizz

                thanks for all the links.

                I just ordered from Amazon; IODINE TINCTURE BP and Lugols Iodine Solution 12%

                I'll let you know how I get on

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by johnny767 View Post
                  Grizz

                  thanks for all the links.

                  I just ordered from Amazon; IODINE TINCTURE BP and Lugols Iodine Solution 12%

                  I'll let you know how I get on
                  Johnny, I would speak to your doctor before following Grizz's advice.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by oceangrl View Post
                    Johnny, I would speak to your doctor before following Grizz's advice.

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                    Silly girl,
                    You did not read my messages. That is EXACTLY what I told him.
                    Work with an Iodine Trained Doctor
                    It is recommended to work with your Naturopathic/holistic Doctor for all treatments using vitamins, iodine & minerals. See these listings for Iodine Trained Doctors:
                    Iodine Literate Practitoners Directory
                    Integrative Medicine From ACAM - the voice of integrative medicine - American College for Advancement in Medicine
                    Traditional doctors know nothing of iodine & were never trained in Med School about iodine. They have deleted their entire 100+ year history of iodine being a MAJOR medicine for most disease, in favor of expensive drugs & surgery. See more in History of Iodine. This comes through loud & clear in our testimonials for Fibrocystic Breast Disease, where doctors routinely prescribe mastectomies when iodine cures the disease reliably within months or even weeks.
                    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials
                    Also, it is not my advice. It is the advice of many doctors I've referenced in this link.
                    http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Cures-Prostate

                    So keep your silly advice to yourself. You have no idea what you are talking about, unless you have read the link & messages above.

                    I suggest you read some of these books before you start speaking against iodine:
                    http://tinyurl.com/iodine-books

                    Grizz
                    Last edited by Grizz; 01-03-2014, 02:48 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I was going to apologize, but then I scrolled down to see you going OFF on me unfairly.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oceangrl View Post
                        I was going to apologize, but then I scrolled down to see you going OFF on me unfairly.

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                        You are the one who is unfairly attacking a subject that you know nothing about. So I suggest you learn about iodine before spouting off. Please read these exceptional books. Then you might even join us in promoting iodine for optimal health.

                        I suggest that you start reading this truly amazing book:
                        The Iodine Crisis: What You Don't Know About Iodine Can Wreck Your Life: Lynne Farrow, David Brownstein MD: 9780986032004: Amazon.com: Books

                        Trust me, you are a woman and you truly need iodine for the health of your breasts, ovaries, uterus & thyroid. Prove this to yourself by reading our testimonials for Thyroid, PCOS, Fibrocystic Breasts & Uterus.
                        https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...NMXOm8TY/edit#

                        You do not want to suffer iodine deficiency disease of these organs. It is so easy & inexpensive to prevent these terrible diseases. This is not even to speak of your hormone imbalance caused by iodine deficiency, brain fog and other symptoms. See this link for iodine deficiency symptoms with links:
                        http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Deficiency

                        If I were a woman, I would immediately order Lynne Farrow's book. Women suffer far more than men with iodine deficiency, and at far earlier ages.

                        Grizz
                        Last edited by Grizz; 01-03-2014, 04:54 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Omg..I attacked nothing. Look at my post. I simply suggested he check with a doctor. Why are you so ready to argue with people?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by oceangrl View Post
                            Omg..I attacked nothing. Look at my post. I simply suggested he check with a doctor. Why are you so ready to argue with people?

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                            This is what you said:
                            Quote Originally Posted by oceangrl View Post
                            Johnny, I would speak to your doctor before following Grizz's advice.
                            You didn't bother to see that I was posting multiple doctor's advice, it was not my own advice, you do understand that I am quoting multiple doctors whenever I speak of iodine, it is not my invention. You also didn't bother to read my messages. You immediately spouted off & disparaged my advice, even though I had said to work with his doctor. So yes, I have to speak up.

                            Iodine has been a major medicine for well over 100 years and I suggest you learn about it because women suffer from iodine deficiency far more than men do, and with far more devastating consequences and at a much earlier age. Instead of disparaging you should try to learn, and ask questions. I am happy to answer any questions you or others may have.

                            Grizz
                            Last edited by Grizz; 01-03-2014, 05:31 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Grizz
                              Regardless of which iodine you use for painting, be sure to water it down to protect your sensitive skin from damage. I recommend mixing the iodine with 80% water, than apply grapeseed oil after the iodine. It works just as well for me watered down and grapeseed oil is not messy. When you run out of tincture, I suggest replacing it with Lugols.

                              I'm looking forward to your update and best of luck to you !
                              Grizz



                              Thanks for all your help. I am fairly new to online discussions so tend to assume that all contributions are made with good intentions and that it can be helpful (in the right spirit) to challenge opinions; so no problems.

                              I actually also ordered Lugols too (Lugols Iodine Solution 12%) .

                              I'll read "How to take Iodine Supplements" . I will have both Lugols and tincture; I'll assume I should one not both, and only taking it externally (and not drinking a diluted solution) ?

                              During the last five years, I have had a number of physical prostrate checks (usually by men with hands the size of a bunch of bananas); including a cystoscopy and lots of other tests with names too big to remember. I have been told that I probably have prostatitis twice (but that it is difficult to diagnose) and been put on massive doses of various anti-biotics; which I don’t think made any difference. I was also proscribed Viagra/Cialis to see what effect they would have. So it has been a bit hit and miss so far

                              Although I can go 6 hours (ish) during the day without needing to pee, I have to go every few hours at night. It also takes makes longer to clear out the last few drops of urine (4 or 5 attempts required) I actually wake 2 or 3 times in the night with a need to pee (sometimes the quantity is very small) and a strong erection – which make peeing less than straightforward.

                              I saw something on TV recently that suggested that most men in their fifties need to pee about twice a night; due to the (enlarged?) prostrate pressing against the bladder? I also read that the fact that your legs are raised at night has an influence on the pressure on the bladder. So I assumed that I would just have to live with things; and that they would progressively get worse. It would be interesting to know the experience of other men in the same age group

                              My doctor is not enlightened when it comes to primal living; he wants me to go on statins for high cholesterol; he also argues that the “fact” that we live longer than our ancestors of 200 000 years ago proves that our diet is more healthy than theirs – I think talking to him about the medical use of iodine will probably be a waste of time. He did say that my prostrate issues might be related to high (and getting) higher levels of cholesterol

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