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  • Vegetarian Primal: Advice for A Newbie?

    Hi! I've been vegetarian for five years now.
    I am ready to embrace the Primal lifestyle... but not ready to change my vegetarian lifestyle.

    Any other vego Primalists out there? Any advice?

  • #2
    How will you get protein without legumes or soy?

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    • #3
      How will you get enough fat without animal fats?
      Will you eat a lot of coconut oil?

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      • #4
        These are questions I am looking for answers to along the way... I'm still 100% learning.
        Is soy a 'no-no' on the Primal diet?

        I eat eggs and some dairy, also...

        My vegetarianism, as said, has been part of my life for five years... at the moment I am beginning to explore my views on the matter, and who knows where I will end up in the next few months/years...

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        • #5
          I've been doing some research on lectins in soy/legumes, so am aiming to avoid these if possible...

          But as you mentioned I am very worried about not getting enough protein. I've been quite unhealthy for the last little while due to lack of protein.

          Skinnyfat=me.

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          • #6
            Honesty, I don't really think vegetarian is compatible with primal
            Do you not think you could bring yourself to do it?
            You need meat Is it because of animal treatment or other? There are tons of places to get happy animals here in Sydney, that are treated kindly before being killed.
            Soy is out. Eggs are great, but I think to get enough protein without meat, you would eat a lot.

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            • #7
              It's definitely because of animal treatment. I am abhorred by factory farming... I think I would honestly struggle to return to a meat-eating diet... but in the interest of health, perhaps I could trial it for a few months?

              Where can happy meat be obtained in Sydney? I'd like to try seafood first (I'm less visually confronted by it, silly, I know.. but five years of ZERO meat does funny things to one's head!)... but overfishing etc. puts me off...

              Oh, I'm so muddled!!

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              • #8
                i don't think it's incompatible.

                you just have to eat a lot of eggs. and the dairy may be inflammatory for you -- so it's a maybe. some primals do it, some don't.

                you should be able to get enough fat and protein from these, honestly.

                (vegan, soy free and whole foods and mostly raw, for 5-6 years; vegetarian, mostly raw, soy free, whole foods, eggs and raw cheese, another 5-6 before going primal -- consuming meat).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                  i don't think it's incompatible.

                  you just have to eat a lot of eggs. and the dairy may be inflammatory for you -- so it's a maybe. some primals do it, some don't.

                  you should be able to get enough fat and protein from these, honestly.

                  (vegan, soy free and whole foods and mostly raw, for 5-6 years; vegetarian, mostly raw, soy free, whole foods, eggs and raw cheese, another 5-6 before going primal -- consuming meat).
                  Hi! I'm a little confused - so since you've been Primal, you consume meat? Can I ask how you 'got over' your vegan/vegetarian lifestyle? Did you find the transition difficult? I can't get past what I see as my 'compassionate' vegetarian stance... although I am beginning to understand the 'logic' of meat-eating, when done 'right'...

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                  • #10
                    The Free Range Butcher
                    here is one place, ive spoken to the farmer about how it is all done, and I am satisfied with the animal treatment.
                    They are at a market in Balmain every sat (along with tons of organic fruit and veg), but they also deliver.
                    They also have salmon at the market too. Maybe ease into it?

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the link/advice! Do you think I would see some benefit from perhaps eating this meat once, maybe twice a week, while the rest of the week subsisting on a vegetarian diet?

                      I'm a little worried about the affordability of meat, considering the amount that may be needed for a full, meat-eating Primal diet...

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                      • #12
                        I see it as an investment to your health
                        What lead you to a primal lifestyle?
                        Any meat is better than none.

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                        • #13
                          I was a vegetarian for 8 years and look where it got me. I eat free-range meats now and wil-caught fish.

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                          • #14
                            If you start to feel that eggs/dairy and nuts are not giving you enough variety of protein, I would advise trying wild fish, esp salmon for omega 3 (they live a free life unlike a farm animal) or unfarmed shellfish like scallops (not very sentient creatures and again living a free life).

                            If you want to try meat how about offal from organically farmed animals, e.g. liver pate, offal is the one of the most nutritious parts of an animal, also one of the cheapest. I bet a lot gets wasted due to lack of demand, so your consumption of would likely have negligible impact on animal welfare/the environment.

                            So a serving of liver pate plus a wild salmon fillet or two (for omega 3) weekly might be something to try. Getting enough omega 3 is going to be a major challenge for you, especially if you don't eat high omega 3 eggs in sufficient quantity.

                            I'm pescatarian and don't feel any need to expand to eating meat just yet... I'm lucky that I feel great eating 3-4 eggs a day, can tolerate a lot of sheep's and goat's cheese, and I can afford to eat sufficient wild fish (I eat about 600 g of wild salmon a week). I'm mostly of celtic stock, so these sources of protein are what my genes are best adapted for.
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                            • #15
                              I'm afraid I don't have the links for you- but properly (which means humanely and healthily) raised animals are actually GOOD for the environment. Joel Salatin of PolyFace Farms has been using them to rebuild the soil on his Virginia farm for a very long time. There's a guy in Africa who is helping to combat desertification with reintroduction of animals. Now- overgrazing and other incorrect management techniques will ruin the soil- so it's about balance.

                              Look at a well-managed rangeland sometime. Note the diversity. Compare that with a soy or wheat or bean field.

                              Oh, yeah- and welcome!
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