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  • Why are sunflower, sesame & soybean oil bad?

    Why should we avoid them?
    Thanks for any input.
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  • #2
    Insane amounts of omega-6s. Soybean oil is a very mild phytoestrogen as well. From what I've read, most of the phytoestrogens are within the protein matrices of soy, so soybean oil might still have trace amounts, but less than soy protein or whole soybeans.

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    • #3
      Sesame should only ever be used in small quantities in any case. It's a flavouring oil, not a cooking oil.
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      • #4
        I often add 3-4 shakes of sesame chili oil to my salads. It probably equates to 1/4 teaspoon. Never use it in large quantities, and NEVER cook with it. Only add to food after it's been cooked. It's actually loaded with antioxidants and small amounts are very healthy. Large quantities would be a disaster, especially heated as it will oxidize rapidly.

        There is no excuse to ever, EVER eat soybean or sunflower oil. They're both horrendous for your health AND tasteless, so there's not a single upside.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Owly View Post
          Sesame should only ever be used in small quantities in any case. It's a flavouring oil, not a cooking oil.
          I know this, and it's like olive oil not for cooking.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
            I often add 3-4 shakes of sesame chili oil to my salads. It probably equates to 1/4 teaspoon. Never use it in large quantities, and NEVER cook with it. Only add to food after it's been cooked. It's actually loaded with antioxidants and small amounts are very healthy. Large quantities would be a disaster, especially heated as it will oxidize rapidly.

            There is no excuse to ever, EVER eat soybean or sunflower oil. They're both horrendous for your health AND tasteless, so there's not a single upside.
            Thanks, I see what you meant. Do you also mean that sunflower seeds are not good for our health?
            I am Chinese, and we like stir-frying dishes. My family don't like salad, espcially in winter, salad is too cold for our stomach.
            Could you please tell me besides butter, lard and coconut oil, what type of oil can be used to cook?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by hxl2012 View Post
              Thanks, I see what you meant. Do you also mean that sunflower seeds are not good for our health?
              I am Chinese, and we like stir-frying dishes. My family don't like salad, espcially in winter, salad is too cold for our stomach.
              Could you please tell me besides butter, lard and coconut oil, what type of oil can be used to cook?
              No, sunflower seeds aren't "good" for your health. But small amounts as a snack every now and again won't hurt you. Keep it limited. Think of sunflower seeds like a slice of cake. You wouldn't expect to be healthy eating cake every day, right? But a slice of cake once or twice a month? That's a drop in the bucket. Well, except sunflower seeds are way better for you than cake, but you get the idea!

              Extra virgin olive oil
              Avocado oil
              Butter
              Ghee (clarified butter)
              Lard (pork fat)
              Duck fat
              Tallow (beef fat)
              Coconut oil
              Red palm oil
              Palm kernel oil

              These are all acceptable cooking oils. I wouldn't cook with anything but them. If you need something high heat for stir-frying, I strongly recommend you look into either avocado oil or render your own beef tallow or clarified butter. They all have very high smoke points. For general stir-frying, my go-to oils are virgin coconut and extra virgin olive oil, depending on the flavor I want. Both hold up very well to heat, but their smoke points are too low for good deep frying.
              Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 01-03-2012, 09:34 PM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by hxl2012 View Post
                I know this, and it's like olive oil not for cooking.
                Olive oil is absolutely 100% for cooking. Cook with extra virgin olive oil all you want. I don't know where this rumor started that olive oil can't be used for cooking. It's absolute BS. Even Mark has written several posts about people's insanity thinking olive oil can't be used for cooking. It's extremely heat stable. Not to the extent that clarified butter is, but it's still very resilient.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                  Olive oil is absolutely 100% for cooking. Cook with extra virgin olive oil all you want. I don't know where this rumor started that olive oil can't be used for cooking. It's absolute BS. Even Mark has written several posts about people's insanity thinking olive oil can't be used for cooking. It's extremely heat stable. Not to the extent that clarified butter is, but it's still very resilient.
                  OH~ that's good. I can use olive oil for cooking now~ I thought it is just for salad. Thanks a lot~ i read your thread about carbs refeeding, that's really
                  helpful~^_^
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                    No, sunflower seeds aren't "good" for your health. But small amounts as a snack every now and again won't hurt you. Keep it limited. Think of sunflower seeds like a slice of cake. You wouldn't expect to be healthy eating cake every day, right? But a slice of cake once or twice a month? That's a drop in the bucket. Well, except sunflower seeds are way better for you than cake, but you get the idea!

                    Extra virgin olive oil
                    Avocado oil
                    Butter
                    Ghee (clarified butter)
                    Lard (pork fat)
                    Duck fat
                    Tallow (beef fat)
                    Coconut oil
                    Red palm oil
                    Palm kernel oil

                    These are all acceptable cooking oils. I wouldn't cook with anything but them. If you need something high heat for stir-frying, I strongly recommend you look into either avocado oil or render your own beef tallow or clarified butter. They all have very high smoke points. For general stir-frying, my go-to oils are virgin coconut and extra virgin olive oil, depending on the flavor I want. Both hold up very well to heat, but their smoke points are too low for good deep frying.
                    Thanks. I have a deeper understanding of cooking oil now. It's easy for me to get lard, tallow, but I have no idea about clarified butter. Butter is not
                    productive in my country, and we just have 2-3 brands making butter.Some are imported from other countries. I am not sure whether they are of
                    good quality or not. Avocado oil is not available in my country. Cooking in lard is nice...haha...
                    Nothing you can't do once you believe that you can.

                    SW:120lb
                    CW:116lb
                    GW:110lb

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                      No, sunflower seeds aren't "good" for your health. But small amounts as a snack every now and again won't hurt you. Keep it limited. Think of sunflower seeds like a slice of cake. You wouldn't expect to be healthy eating cake every day, right? But a slice of cake once or twice a month? That's a drop in the bucket. Well, except sunflower seeds are way better for you than cake, but you get the idea!

                      Extra virgin olive oil
                      Avocado oil
                      Butter
                      Ghee (clarified butter)
                      Lard (pork fat)
                      Duck fat
                      Tallow (beef fat)
                      Coconut oil
                      Red palm oil
                      Palm kernel oil

                      These are all acceptable cooking oils. I wouldn't cook with anything but them. If you need something high heat for stir-frying, I strongly recommend you look into either avocado oil or render your own beef tallow or clarified butter. They all have very high smoke points. For general stir-frying, my go-to oils are virgin coconut and extra virgin olive oil, depending on the flavor I want. Both hold up very well to heat, but their smoke points are too low for good deep frying.
                      By the way, don't you think sesame, sunflower seeds are nuts like almonds, cashewnuts etc?
                      Nothing you can't do once you believe that you can.

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                      CW:116lb
                      GW:110lb

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                      • #12
                        Also macadamia oil is good
                        Is Macadamia Nut Oil Healthy? | Mark's Daily Apple

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hxl2012 View Post
                          Thanks. I have a deeper understanding of cooking oil now. It's easy for me to get lard, tallow, but I have no idea about clarified butter. Butter is not
                          productive in my country, and we just have 2-3 brands making butter.Some are imported from other countries. I am not sure whether they are of
                          good quality or not. Avocado oil is not available in my country. Cooking in lard is nice...haha...
                          You can make your own clarified butter. Melt it down in a pan, boil out the water - when it stops bubbling the water is gone. All the milk solids float to the top. You then strain it in a strainer lined with cheesecloth. The end result is pure butterfat. Indian grocers carry it but it's very expensive. I'd rather make my own.

                          If you can get tallow, no need for clarified butter.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hxl2012 View Post
                            By the way, don't you think sesame, sunflower seeds are nuts like almonds, cashewnuts etc?
                            In small quantities, there are health benefits as they're high in antioxidants. They're also tasty. Eaten regularly, they're highly inflammatory due to enormous amounts of omega 6. Periodic high intake of omega 6? Not a problem. Regular high intake of omega 6? Chronic inflammation.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Liam View Post
                              You can use macadamia nut oil to cook, but I'd never do that. It's outrageously expensive and IMO you'd be nuts to use that as a cooking oil when there are more heat stable options for a fraction of the price.

                              You can use walnut oil, almond oil or sesame oil for salads, too. They're extremely high in omega 6, so never heat them and don't eat them regularly, but for rare treats they could be nice. Again, I don't use them because they're expensive and I like extra virgin olive oil - it's cheaper and healthier, so why buy the others? The only thing I have is sesame chili oil, and I use it very, very sparingly. Store in your fridge.
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