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    I've been in Egypt for the past week and I'll be here for another two. It's been awesome! And completely, totally safe.
    but of course I want to talk about health and food.
    The diet here is very, very much "healthy cw" for the most part - tons of bread, mostly whole grain pitas, all kinds of beans, rice, and lentils, plenty of fruit and veg. Lentils on a pita is a very standard type of meal. Of course there's meat, but this is a pretty poor country and you don't see the locals eating a lot of it. they like sugar and honey, for sure, but not much dairy, etc.
    on the one hand, I like to stay primal because it's better for me, but on the other hand, I like to eat local food as much as possible. Yesterday for lunch I ate lentil soup, falafel (fried chick pea balls), with tahini (sesame dip) and babaghanoush (eggplant sesame dip). Also whole wheat pitas. I have to say, it doesn't feel good or healthy even though it tastes decent. Breakfasts in particular are of the "all carb" variety which I now find does not make feel good. My gut is hating me right now and has been for a few days. So one comment is that wow, I'm so glad I don't aspire to eat like this all the time, and from here on out I'm going to try to primalize my foods more.
    Second comment - there are plenty of fat and obese people in this poor, low fat, "healthy whole grains" country. Not as many as in the "large parts" of America of course, but a lot more than Oprah would predict. CW would look at this diet and predict that everyone would be in glowing health and ideal weight, but I just don't see it.

    Everything else is great, though! Having a blast.
    If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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    That's interesting, but not surprising. Keep reporting back!
    Durp.

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    • #3
      babaghanoush

      That's fun to say! Enjoy your trip.

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      • #4
        I've always wanted to visit the Middle East. I've been fascinated by their food for a while though I don't know a lot about it. I would definitely stay fairly Primal but would also sample enough local cuisine so that I didn't miss out on what might be a once in a lifetime experience.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tfarny View Post
          Second comment - there are plenty of fat and obese people in this poor, low fat, "healthy whole grains" country. Not as many as in the "large parts" of America of course, but a lot more than Oprah would predict. CW would look at this diet and predict that everyone would be in glowing health and ideal weight, but I just don't see it.

          Everything else is great, though! Having a blast.
          So true.

          Thanks for your observation and glad you're having a blast!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by otzi View Post
            babaghanoush

            That's fun to say! Enjoy your trip.
            LOL. I like saying it too. Weird.

            Thanks for the info tfarny. Interesting about how there are more overweight people there than one would think.
            People too weak to follow their own dreams will always try to discourage others.

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            • #7
              I've been eating really well since I got back on track. Tonight: delicious lamb chunks, rice, salad, and all the middle eastern side dishes. Said no to bread and to beer. The other night I ate a 1 kilo whole grilled fresh fish. Awesome.
              If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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              • #8
                Not Middle Eastern, but I had Ethiopian food a few months ago. I ordered the goat, and paid 10 bucks for maybe 4 oz of goat covered in bad sauce and a TON of bread. What a rip off...

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                • #9
                  Now I'm in Cairo and I have a local friend who's been taking me out to eat at really nice, somewhat high end but not touristy restaurants for every meal.
                  1. My god they eat a lot! and they eat late! Lunch is around 4 pm and involves huge piles of food, dinner is around 9 or ten and involved only slightly less food.
                  2. They love their sweets. For lunch yesterday we ate a huge platter of clams, fish, 5 different veg sides, and rice. I waddled outside very content. Then my friend takes me straight away to a juice stand where he orders fresh-crushed juice of sugarcane. Literally a stalk of sugarcane run through a roller press with the juice poured into a cup. He was in heaven - it actually repelled me. Dessert after every major meal, bread with every meal.
                  They do tend to do a morning IF, though. So: conventional healthy CW food, plenty of whole grains, but also plenty of sweets and a high volume of calories all around.
                  And I have seen numerous obese and some morbidly obese persons walking around, for sure. Something you never ever see among the rice-eating high carb low sugar Asian countries I normally travel to. Colombians also loved their sweets and were larger than you'd think, come to think of it.
                  If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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                  • #10
                    Half of my family lives in Morocco, and last time I was there, I was a vegan, so I didn't try ANY of the traditional cuisine. FUHHHHH. Next time I go, I plan on having as much lamb and fish as I care for. I don't like falafel at all, but I will say that Middle Eastern bread is incredible. I doubt I'll eat much of that when I go next, though.

                    There is also nothing like Moroccan tea or the baklava/bastilla served in Morocco. That's something I will be enjoying. The honey there is ridiculously good, too.
                    Last edited by tarek; 01-14-2012, 01:47 AM.

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                    • #11
                      In my experience, middle eastern cuisine varies a LOT depending on which area of the middle east you go to. I've found that here, in the Levant area, I've had almost no trouble eating out and getting a primal meal. Most of the traditional Lebanese food in restaurants consists of meats (lots of lamb), some fermented dairy or white cheeses, and a whole butt load vegetables and greenery, with fruit for dessert. Although home cooking does have the staple of white rice + stew in many recipes, and if you wanted, there's a lot of wheat and bread products out there.
                      If you go to some of the gulf countries, their cuisine revolves around big rice dishes, rather than something + rice as a side dish (obesity is a rising problem over there).
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