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  • Hi All

    Wonderful thread. SInce Grizz has brought this to light, I have been thinking of adding iodine, but I did not want to go down the route of tablets etc. So I was thinking of adding seaweed to my bone broth. I cannot decide whether to add it to the cooking or add it later after it is finished and I am warming it up.

    Does anyone have any insight?

    Thanks
    Life. Be in it.

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    • Add to our rules, when painting iodine over the skin to treat problem areas such as breast, thyroid, toenails always use a carrier oil for the iodine. This helps to absorb the iodine with minimal skin problems. Any oil such as grapeseed, olive oil, etc. will work.

      Also today at the Iodine Message Group was another of many similar stories where the doctor wanted to perform a TT for a swollen thyroid. TT=Total Thyroidectomy. Thank God these people came to the Message Group and saved themselves from another needless surgery and a lifetime on thyroid hormone drugs. A swollen thyroid ALWAYS means a lack of iodine, so why are these "Doctors" so eager to slash out the thyroid? IMO, there is always more money to be made treating symptoms than curing the disease. It is ALWAYS about money, isn't it?

      Also from the message group, add to our Detox Symptom List: Itching all over, which also indicates the need for additional liver/kidney detox procedures.

      @@rrusted,
      What an I can't even imagine all of the needless pain you have been through, or how much better your life might have been if you were getting sufficient iodine since the age of 10! At least we know what to do now, and we can spread the word to friends & family to prevent all of this needless pain & suffering! This fact comes through LOUD & CLEAR - women suffer far more from iodine deficiency than men do. Female organs including breast require a lot of iodine to be healthy.

      @@dancermom,
      You are LUCKY WOMAN today for mentioning Sjogrend! There are several huge threads at the on Sjogrens Syndrome, where gums & dry mouth are also discussed. This group typically recommends 200mg iodine dosing for any severe diseases such as fibromyalgia, cancers, etc. I suggest you join this group discussion on Sjogrens. Please do keep us informed of your progress & what you discover on Sjogrens. Even more exciting, SEE MY NEXT POST ON LDN, this may be exactly what you need. Also see this link that confirms LDN:
      http://www.dryeyezone.com/talk/showt...-eye-Sjogren-s

      @@sofiajp,
      What a WONDERFUL turnaround for you since starting on iodine. Lets hop your mother listens to you, Show here these videos & infor, it may help to convince her:
      (5) Iodine Deficiency and Estrogen Dominant Diseases - Jorge D. Flechas, MD - YouTube
      (6) Iodine for Health by Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD

      @@gwynn,
      Iodine Therapy cures varicose & spider veins ??? This is totally unexpected ! Wait until my wife hears about this!

      @@Dave RN
      Thanks for your contribution of articles. Nice find!

      @@belforte,
      With what we know today, it is extremely unlikely that you can take enough seaweed to detox your body. You should go on the iodine protocol to detox your body first, then you can drop down to eating seaweed for good health. However, even then, it is doubtful that eating seaweed is even enough to prevent the toxins from coming in & taking over again. We live in a sea of toxins, and it takes 24mg of iodoral or 5% lugols daily to keep the toxins out of our body.

      @@jlsaven,
      What is your current iodine dosing level? Try reducing dosage or pulse dose a few days a week to eliminate your spotting.

      Best to all,
      Grizz
      Last edited by Grizz; 05-01-2012, 06:23 AM.

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      • LDN makes cancers go into remission!

        I won't be discussing LDN except to say that it is a very inexpensive Miracle Cure re-discovery of an old off-patent drug. Said to be just as important as the discovery of Penicillin. It is being ignored by the Big Pharma because there is no money in it, in spite of it being effective for cancer, and many other terrible disease. There is a Yahoo LDN Group, and much more here:
        Links
        If you have any severe health problems, look into LDN = Low Dose Naltroxone - this is, indeed a super strength antibiotic!
        Where low dose means 1mg to 4mg daily. Naltraxone is available on line in 80mg pills, but can be cut down to 1mg by diluting in water.
        This would be a great subject for someone to start a thread here at MDA !
        Here are some additional links from my notes:
        About LDN
        =====================
        "The most important drug discovery since Penicillan"

        Generic Name: Naltrexone Hcl
        AKA:Naltima
        US Brand : Revia 50 mg
        Manufacturer : Intas Pharmaceuticals India
        Package : 10 Pills
        Price : $16.80
        Strength : 50 mg ( must be cut down to 4 mg daily )
        Available without prescription here:
        https://www.alldaychemist.com/311__Naltrexone-Hcl

        Dosage: Just 4 mg daily, cost $1 a day, causes a big boost in the immune system for multiple diseases. How to cut dosage:
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post685125


        Bernard Bihari, MD, as well as other physicians and researchers, have described beneficial effects of LDN on a variety of diseases.
        LDN Web Site:
        Links

        Cancers & Other Diseases:
        Bladder Cancer
        Breast Cancer
        Carcinoid
        Colon & Rectal Cancer
        Glioblastoma
        Liver Cancer
        Lung Cancer (Non-Small Cell)
        Lymphocytic Leukemia (chronic)
        Lymphoma (Hodgkin’s and Non-Hodgkin’s)
        Malignant Melanoma
        Multiple Myeloma
        Neuroblastoma
        Ovarian Cancer
        Pancreatic Cancer
        Prostate Cancer (untreated)
        Renal Cell Carcinoma
        Throat Cancer
        Uterine Cancer

        ALS (Lou Gehrig’s Disease)
        Alzheimer’s Disease
        Ankylosing Spondylitis
        Autism Spectrum Disorders
        Behcet’s Disease
        Celiac Disease
        Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
        CREST syndrome
        Crohn’s Disease
        Emphysema (COPD)
        Endometriosis
        Fibromyalgia
        HIV/AIDS
        Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)
        Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
        Parkinson’s Disease
        Pemphigoid
        Primary Lateral Sclerosis (PLS)
        Psoriasis
        Rheumatoid Arthritis
        Sarcoidosis
        Scleroderma
        Stiff Person Syndrome (SPS)
        Systemic Lupus (SLE)
        Transverse Myelitis
        Ulcerative Colitis
        Wegener’s Granulomatosis


        LDN is available as a Generic Drug (Naltima) without a prescription here:
        https://www.alldaychemist.com/415-naltima-50mg-.html

        Instructions for cutting it down here:

        I know that some fill a 50mL medicine bottle (w/dropper) with distilled water, then dissolve the 50mg Naltrexone Hcl to make LDN. Shake gently each time before taking, and work up to 5 drops. ( 1 mg per drop )
        I have not done the dosage calculations lately, but one can make as low a dose as desired with a dropper.
        You may suspect that most doctors likely have never heard of LDN.
        Rob
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post685125

        Dr. Kruse (Digital Surgeon) said he will be talking about LDN in his 1st book, scheduled the end of this year.
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post684184

        Yahoo LDN Group
        http://health.dir.groups.yahoo.com/g...&sec=dir&slk=1

        Bottom line: LDN is just another example of a miracle being ignored because there is no money in it. SSDD as the case for burying Iodine & Vitamin D3. The $50 Billion Cancer Industry fights against both LDN and Iodine. No money, honey? Then kill it.

        PS) I just opened this new thread here at Marks Daily Apple for anyone interested:
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post739097

        Grizz
        Last edited by Grizz; 05-01-2012, 09:42 AM.

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        • Thanks for the info about the carrier oil, Grizz.

          We've been breaking out recently (not just the adults, one of my little ones had some boils, which I believe was staph. That started after she took a round of antibiotics for an ear infection, which, by the way I think I've stopped dead in its tracks with a combination of grapefruit seed extract, garlic and glycerin. YAY!) so I began using lugols topically on a boil on my face. I usually use 2.5% benzoyl peroxide from Acne.org, but I thought I'd experiment with lugols. It was a total failure- it stopped the boil from healing, when other boils are all the way gone, this one persists. I'm really tired of putting on concealer everyday. Perhaps I'll try to cure the next one (but NOT on my face!) with lugols and grapeseed oil.

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          • Good day to all! Lots of good information here to explore today!

            I want to share a find that I am about to try. Will let you know what I think of it later. Its a nasal emollient called Ponaris. It was mentioned in the article that Dirlot shared here a couple of days ago. Its been used for treating dry sinuses - including for NASA astronauts.

            Essentially, it is a special iodine preparation in a base of emollient oils. If I weren't so convinced of the benefit of iodine, I might have passed this product over due to the inclusion of pine and other oils that I have a sensitivity to. However, now that I am well on my way with primal diet and iodine therapy, my sensitivities and allergies are changing for the better anyway. I will approach it with caution, regardless.

            I found Ponaris at Amazon. Here is a review from Amazon. What ran through my mind as I read it is this: We are all learning about the fact that iodine concentrates in mucosal linings - which includes the sinuses. We are also learning that a carrier oil is needed to get iodine into the body from topical applications. So, when I read this review I hear a person with a specific iodine deficiency that is responding (rapidly) to a topical preparation. Seems simple, doesn't it?

            And, yet not surprisingly, this poor person had to suffer major pain and loss of income not to mention loss of quality of life and the rest while doctor after doctor essentially stood by and did nothing!

            I know what Grizz is saying about killing products & research is true. As a former research scientist I can assure you that its all about what gets funded. The stories that I could tell you as an insider - including from a colleague at the CDC - would make your hackles rise! But, in the case of doctors I think much of the time it is simple ignorance. They have never heard about the benefits of iodine and such products, for the most part. They are ignorant because the higher powers that be have silenced this information.

            "This review is from: PONARIS NASAL EMOLLIENT Size: 30 ML (Health and Beauty)
            I have suffered from extremely painful headaches 24 hours a day, 7 days a week 365 days a year for 13 years. I've seen all kinds of doctors and alternative medicine folks with no relief. All areas of my head that came into contact with the my painful sinuses were also effected, eyes, ears, even teeth. My head always felt as if I'd been beaten badly in a fight. Everything hurt all the time. It even hurt to touch my head.

            I recently saw a specialist at the university hospital who said my sinuses where chronically dry. She says this is rare but she sees a handfull of people every year who have this. This condition doesn't even have a name according to her. She recommended Ponaris.

            My pain was so acute I've been unable to work for 9 years. After taking the Ponaris for one week (!) I'm getting my life back. The headaches are dramatically improved, my sinuses are no longer screaming in pain and I have less congestion (it's winter as I write this) than I ever have had.

            I've spent thousands of dollars on doctors and prescriptions and have lost thousands of dollars because I couldn't work due to daily debilitating headaches but I'm brushing up my resume now because of the tremendous healing I'm receiving from this product. Everytime I use this product my sinuses go "Ahhhhh, thank you."

            I didn't know how dry my sinuses were, (no doctor raised any alarms) nor did I know that dry condition could possibly cause my previous level of pain. I was using a humidifier but for some reason that brought no benefit. For some of us, our painful sinuses just don't work right and need help to become normal again. In my case they needed lubrication, I could not produce. And for me this miracle oil is a tremendous blessing. The dry, constant, spirit- crushing ache is gone.

            This is not the easiest product to find but get it and try it. Don't waste the money and time I've spent before trying this little miracle on a bottle. It it has given me a normal life again.

            If it does half the benefit for you as it did for me you will be delighted and thankful.

            I hope this blessing comes to you."
            Last edited by justaseeker; 03-03-2012, 08:29 AM.
            I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

            Justaseeker's Journal:

            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post778214

            Iodine Research and Application Group:

            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/group134.html

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            • rrustad,

              You are Terrific !

              There is no doubt that the poor devil who found such amazing relief from Ponaris was also severely deficient in iodine. Ponaris is going into my notes. That was a great find!

              Here is the link:
              Amazon.com: PONARIS NASAL EMOLLIENT Size: 30 ML: Health & Personal Care
              Here is how it is used:
              * You put a drop or two in your nose with your head tilted back and allow it to run to the back of your throat.
              * It comes with a dropper, but I just use a Q-tip to apply.

              Grizz

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              • rrustad, that sounds like amazing stuff! I will definitely put that on the list to check out.

                Grizz, I was amazed as well to see the spider veins vanishing. I'll let you know if and when they are completely gone. How is Mrs. Grizz doing on her Iodine?

                Gwynn

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                • Originally posted by Gwynn View Post
                  rrustad, that sounds like amazing stuff! I will definitely put that on the list to check out.

                  Grizz, I was amazed as well to see the spider veins vanishing. I'll let you know if and when they are completely gone. How is Mrs. Grizz doing on her Iodine?

                  Gwynn
                  I just don't understand how taking iodine internally can eliminate spider veins & vericose veins. I did a search in Google and could not find anything. Just guessing, but somehow the iodine strengthens blood vessels to shrink them back into shape.

                  We decided that she would finish her Kelp tablets before starting on 1/2 of an iodoral. I am still the guinea pig on this experiment, and I'm being overly super cautious in getting her dosage titrated up. I'm concerned that she will get overly upset with detox symptoms, and I suspect that females may react more to detox. Just call me a big CHICKEN ;--))

                  If she sees me taking 50mg with no problems, then she will be more eager to titrate up to 1/2 of an iodoral ! She only has about 10 days left of her kelp tablets.

                  Grizz

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                  • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                    Gems from The Yahoo Iodine Group




                    @@jlsaven,
                    What is your current iodine dosing level? Try reducing dosage or pulse dose a few days a week to eliminate your spotting.
                    Grizz, I'm only taking 450mcg, up from 225 where I was at for the last few weeks... my lugol's is in the mail from Amazon, so not sure how my patch test will go yet, but figure I'm very deficient. Spotting was brief and did not persist, I was just curious if it was an effect others had noticed. If iodine is having effects on things like vericose veins for others, I figure it probably works strange things on fibroids also.

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                    • Originally posted by jlsaven View Post
                      Grizz, I'm only taking 450mcg, up from 225 where I was at for the last few weeks... my lugol's is in the mail from Amazon, so not sure how my patch test will go yet, but figure I'm very deficient. Spotting was brief and did not persist, I was just curious if it was an effect others had noticed. If iodine is having effects on things like vericose veins for others, I figure it probably works strange things on fibroids also.
                      Iodine cures fibroids, and far worse female problems:
                      Severe Deficiency Symptoms for the ladies:
                      * Migraine headaches (5,6)
                      * Painful periods/heavy periods (5,6)
                      * Pelvic pain (5,6)
                      * PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome-cysts on the ovaries ) (5,6)
                      * Endometriosis (5,6)
                      * Fibroid Tumors (5,6)
                      * Pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) (5,6)
                      * Breast pain (fibrous tissue) (5,6)
                      * Cancers in female breasts & organs (5,6)
                      (5) Iodine Deficiency and Estrogen Dominant Diseases - Jorge D. Flechas, MD - YouTube
                      (6) Iodine for Health by Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD

                      You are the first I've heard of to have seen spotting as a detox symptom. All detox symptoms are transient and disappear sooner or later.

                      Check out below my sig line, where I have just finished adding a new Iodine Introduction & References. I will be adding much more into this document, so check on it from time to time for the latest.
                      You can easily see a listing of all known detox symptoms, and quick links to important documents.

                      Grizz

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                      • Originally posted by jlsaven View Post
                        Grizz, I'm only taking 450mcg, up from 225 where I was at for the last few weeks... my lugol's is in the mail from Amazon, so not sure how my patch test will go yet, but figure I'm very deficient. Spotting was brief and did not persist, I was just curious if it was an effect others had noticed. If iodine is having effects on things like vericose veins for others, I figure it probably works strange things on fibroids also.
                        Spotting is not unusual for any detox. Just another pathway of toxin excretion and no reason to reduce dosage.
                        I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

                        Justaseeker's Journal:

                        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post778214

                        Iodine Research and Application Group:

                        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/group134.html

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                        • Originally posted by Grizz View Post

                          @@rrusted,
                          What an amazing story. I can't even imagine all of the needless pain you have been through, or how much better your life might have been if you were getting sufficient iodine since the age of 10! At least we know what to do now, and we can spread the word to friends & family to prevent all of this needless pain & suffering! This fact comes through LOUD & CLEAR - women suffer far more from iodine deficiency than men do. Female organs including breast require a lot of iodine to be healthy.

                          @@dancermom,
                          You are LUCKY WOMAN today for mentioning Sjogrend! There are several huge threads at the Yahoo Iodine Group on Sjogrens Syndrome, where gums & dry mouth are also discussed. This group typically recommends 200mg iodine dosing for any severe diseases such as fibromyalgia, cancers, etc. I suggest you join this group discussion on Sjogrens. Please do keep us informed of your progress & what you discover on Sjogrens. Even more exciting, SEE MY NEXT POST ON LDN, this may be exactly what you need. Also see this link that confirms LDN:
                          http://www.dryeyezone.com/talk/showthread.php?14060-LDN-therapy-for-autoimmune-dry-eye-Sjogren-

                          @@gwynn,
                          Iodine Therapy cures varicose & spider veins ??? This is totally unexpected ! Wait until my wife hears about this!

                          @@belforte,
                          With what we know today, it is extremely unlikely that you can take enough seaweed to detox your body. You should go on the iodine protocol to detox your body first, then you can drop down to eating seaweed for good health. However, even then, it is doubtful that eating seaweed is even enough to prevent the toxins from coming in & taking over again. We live in a sea of toxins, and it takes 24mg of iodoral or 5% lugols daily to keep the toxins out of our body.

                          Grizz
                          Thanks, Grizz. Yeah, I was an early developer and had large breasts in proportion to my size - since I was nine! So, my breasts began the iodine draw down early in life. Plus, I lived in the goiter belt areas. The thing that may have helped is that my mother and I were both aware of the need for iodine and both included iodine rich foods in our diets and our families diet. Its just that what we THOUGHT was sufficient obviously was NOT.

                          I'm not surprised to learn about the Sjogrens Syndrome iodine connection. I was hoping that you could shed some light there.

                          Varicose veins and spiders do respond well to detox in general - that's not necessarily an iodine specific effect. The toxins flushed out of the system with iodine therapy including the adjuvants can be flushed out with other types of detox methods as well and I've seen these sorts of reports before.

                          As I've indicated before, I don't think that seaweed or kelp supplements are the way to go for the therapy/detox phase - so you know that I agree with you there.
                          Last edited by justaseeker; 03-03-2012, 05:06 PM.
                          I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

                          Justaseeker's Journal:

                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post778214

                          Iodine Research and Application Group:

                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/group134.html

                          Comment


                          • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                            I just don't understand how taking iodine internally can eliminate spider veins & vericose veins. I did a search in Google and could not find anything. Just guessing, but somehow the iodine strengthens blood vessels to shrink them back into shape.

                            We decided that she would finish her Kelp tablets before starting on 1/2 of an iodoral. I am still the guinea pig on this experiment, and I'm being overly super cautious in getting her dosage titrated up. I'm concerned that she will get overly upset with detox symptoms, and I suspect that females may react more to detox. Just call me a big CHICKEN ;--))

                            If she sees me taking 50mg with no problems, then she will be more eager to titrate up to 1/2 of an iodoral ! She only has about 10 days left of her kelp tablets.

                            Grizz
                            Hey, CHICKEN! LOL! Its sweet that you are looking out for the MRS this way - but really women don't all have severe issues with detox. Look at me, for example. And, if she does have issues you are there to help her out, right?
                            I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

                            Justaseeker's Journal:

                            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post778214

                            Iodine Research and Application Group:

                            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/group134.html

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                              I
                              Check out below my sig line, where I have just finished adding a new Iodine Introduction & References. I will be adding much more into this document, so check on it from time to time for the latest.
                              You can easily see a listing of all known detox symptoms, and quick links to important documents.

                              Grizz
                              Checked it out and will be watching.
                              I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

                              Justaseeker's Journal:

                              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post778214

                              Iodine Research and Application Group:

                              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/group134.html

                              Comment


                              • Fantastic! Will checkout that LDN group. You know, I've had a lurking fear that some day my bladder issues would lead to cancer. I even had a urologist tell me when I was 20 that I would likely have my bladder removed by the time I was 35. So, to know that I may have dodged that bullet now with iodine therapy is no small miracle for me .
                                I feel like I ought to be wearing a bumper sticker that says: "Don't follow me I am lost." I am just a seeker like everyone else.

                                Justaseeker's Journal:

                                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post778214

                                Iodine Research and Application Group:

                                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/group134.html

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