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  • Originally posted by DuhPrincess View Post
    Perhaps those of us who are actually using Iodine could start a new thread so we could share our experiences with each other. Then the rest of you could stay here and complain about anything and everything like you already do. What? You want answers? You think you're entitled? When it comes to iodine, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

    I mean, I've got most of you on "Ignore" already but I still have to wade through your toxic comments when someone else quotes your posts. So tired of y'all wasting my time when I come here to read about iodine and related topics. Just talk to your doctors if you want "valid" iodine advice. You don't want to consider the views of the doctors who are already successfully treating people with serious medical issues so I have no idea how to help you here. In fact, you shouldn't take iodine at all--just eat lots of Kelp and Seaweed and leave the rest of us alone while we try to detox bromides and halides.

    I don't plan to change my point of view anytime soon just because the paid Big Pharma Whore--"Quackwatch"--says so.

    I think Owl had the best advice for all of us--get tested so then we each know how we're doing with or without iodine supplementation. In the meantime, I would like a safe place to post my questions or results with other interested and/or experienced ones. Is this too much to ask???? Apparently it is.
    I like your idea of starting a new thread. I know I would like to share my progress with folks would are also trying to detox halides. I shudder to think that if I share a "negative symptom," the anti-iodine camp would say "See-see I told you so!" or start screaming iodine toxicity, or accusing me of having a flying pet monkey or something or start self-congratulating each other with gold stars; or all of the above.

    I don't see the need to have to cite scientific studies to defend my own self-experiment. I just want a place to share information without all these judgements. The mega-dose people are well aware of the "so-called dangers" of mega-doses in short time; in fact, they do remind those who want to detox to start real slow, at low dosages, and listen to your body, AND consult your doctor if you are more comfortable with it.
    Last edited by chahaya; 07-29-2012, 11:50 PM.

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    • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
      Uh, I'm not in the 'mega-dose' camp, but I don't regard quackwatch as a reliable source either. Sorry.
      No need to apologise, there are plenty of other sources for information on him. Reading some of his ideas should give you a good laugh if nothing else.

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      • Originally posted by chahaya View Post
        I like your idea of starting a new thread. I know I would like to share my progress with folks would are also trying to detox halides. I shudder to think that if I share a "negative symptom," the anti-iodine camp would say "See-see I told you so!" or start screaming iodine toxicity, or accusing me of having a flying pet monkey or something or start self-congratulating each other with gold stars; or all of the above.

        I don't see the need to have to cite scientific studies to defend my own self-experiment. I just want a place to share information without all these judgements. The mega-dose people are well aware of the "so-called dangers" of mega-doses in short time; in fact, they do remind those who want to detox to start real slow, at low dosages, and listen to your body, AND consult your doctor if you are more comfortable with it.
        A new thread is not the answer. The Trolls like PoopBird & her flock will still swoop in to infect it. The answer is to somehow get the Moderators to respond to complaints about the Trolls and actually DO SOMETHING. I have "Reported" this post to maybe get the moderators attention. The Trolls have ruined this thread and they will ruin any other thread that attempts to be serious about iodine. I have reported Trolls in the past and moderators seem to do nothing.

        I have a better idea. All of us who are serious about iodine move over to the Curezone. The moderators over there will NOT tolerate Trolls. They get kicked off the board on their 1st whiney, nit picking, crying post, IMO, Poopbird and her Flock of Trolls could not survive one day at the Curezone.

        I am already a member over there, so is Zophie. Here is the link:
        Iodine Supplementation Support Forum by VWT Team, Page 265, Vulcanel, Wombat & Trapper/kcmo:

        We just abandon Marks Daily Apple and let the Trolls rip this thread into little pieces as they see fit.

        See y'all over at the Curezone.

        Grizz
        Last edited by Grizz; 07-30-2012, 12:40 AM.

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        • Originally posted by t2t View Post
          So the lambast crew have just been dosed with their own vile medicine. Quackwatch down in flames... Come on guys and girls lambast. Oh, wait it was one of their own "Radialhead".
          Did you bother to check the points raised on Quackwatch with other sources? Can you point me towards the documented research that Batmanghelidj claims to have done? Do you believe that the body splits water into hydrogen & oxygen to use as its main source of energy? Can you think of any reason why drinking lots of water might alleviate the pain of a stomach ulcer?

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          • Originally posted by DuhPrincess View Post
            Perhaps those of us who are actually using Iodine could start a new thread so we could share our experiences with each other. Then the rest of you could stay here and complain about anything and everything like you already do. What? You want answers? You think you're entitled? When it comes to iodine, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
            What if the truth is that in a few years/decades time, it's discovered that taking 50mg of iodine a day causes long-term health problems? It isn't that long ago that fluoride was seen as the miracle cure for tooth decay. What's the betting that had the internet been around then, there would've been a group of people on a forum recommending far higher fluoride intake? I guess they'd feel pretty stupid now.

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            • Originally posted by Pamsc View Post
              The iodine crowd believes that unrefined salt does not raise your blood pressure, only refined salt does. The more recent science says that salt raises blood pressure for some people, but not for most. Those people who are salt sensitive should be much more careful.
              The person who appears to have started the recent dispute about whether salt really raises blood pressure is David McCarron, M.D. Unfortunately he consults for the food industry, including writing for the European Salt Producers' Association. So whilst he may be correct, the 'follow the money' caveat applies.

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              • Originally posted by Radialhead View Post
                What's the betting that had the internet been around then, there would've been a group of people on a forum recommending far higher fluoride intake? I guess they'd feel pretty stupid now.
                Very good point

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                • I like the exchange of info, opinions, and citations/references. I don't mind disagreements like 'no, that's not true because of this, this, and this' or 'that 'Dr' works for [insert big pharma company here]'. But it seems some members on both sides are sometimes personal in their disagreements and unpleasant in their tone & manner. I wish those engaging in the 'sneer' campaigns would stop sniping and stick to their facts and opinions on the data and citations at hand. I'd be sorry if this thread was limited to only personal progress reports (important but not everything needed to make up my mind) and angry lash-outs. I'm truly appreciating the information exchange and differing opinions. Thanks to some of you for giving me much food for thought and links to read.
                  SW: 243
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                  Goal: Health

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                  • Originally posted by Radialhead View Post
                    What if the truth is that in a few years/decades time, it's discovered that taking 50mg of iodine a day causes long-term health problems? It isn't that long ago that fluoride was seen as the miracle cure for tooth decay. What's the betting that had the internet been around then, there would've been a group of people on a forum recommending far higher fluoride intake? I guess they'd feel pretty stupid now.
                    Fluoride for tooth decay is the mainstream view today -- Look at all the advertisements and products. The anti-flouride is the alternative view.

                    Contrary, anti-iodine seems to be mainstream view today. IMHO, the pro-iodine is the alternative view today.

                    Also pro-iodine was the mainstream view not too long distance past. Check these old Kelpin' Bread adverts in the 1930s... iodinehistory ... What changed?

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                    • Originally posted by chahaya View Post
                      Fluoride for tooth decay is the mainstream view today -- Look at all the advertisements and products. The anti-flouride is the alternative view.

                      Contrary, anti-iodine seems to be mainstream view today.
                      I'm not really sure what your point is; whether something's mainstream or not is irrelevant to the point I made.

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                      • Originally Posted by DuhPrincess
                        Perhaps those of us who are actually using Iodine could start a new thread so we could share our experiences with each other. Then the rest of you could stay here and complain about anything and everything like you already do. What? You want answers? You think you're entitled? When it comes to iodine, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
                        Originally posted by radialhead
                        What if the truth is that in a few years/decades time, it's discovered that taking 50mg of iodine a day causes long-term health problems? It isn't that long ago that fluoride was seen as the miracle cure for tooth decay. What's the betting that had the internet been around then, there would've been a group of people on a forum recommending far higher fluoride intake? I guess they'd feel pretty stupid now.
                        @@Princess,

                        I invite you and the other advanced iodine users to graduate from this thread and move into the advanced Iodine Forum at the Curezone.
                        Iodine Supplementation Support Forum by VWT Team, Page 265, Vulcanel, Wombat & Trapper/kcmo:

                        There is just no point in wasting time & energy over all the Trolls who have taken over this thread. I'll meet you there.

                        @@radialhead,
                        If you don't like iodine, then don't take it. What are you even dong in this thread???

                        Grizz

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                        • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                          @@radialhead,
                          If you don't like iodine, then don't take it.
                          I do like iodine, & will continue to take it.

                          Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                          What are you even dong in this thread???
                          Reading, learning, questioning, & occasionally laughing.

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                          • Grizz, I'd like to go to Curezone, but that format is awful. And I clicked on the Alternative Layout - it's better, but still weird. Do we just have to put up with it that way, or am I missing something?

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                            • Originally Posted by radialhead
                              What if the truth is that in a few years/decades time, it's discovered that taking 50mg of iodine a day causes long-term health problems?
                              Then why are you complaining & nit picking those of us following the Dr. Brownstein Protocol? YOU ARE A TROLL, and I am reporting you.

                              Grizz

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                              • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                                Then why are you complaining & nit picking those of us following the Dr. Brownstein Protocol?
                                I'm neither complaining nor nit picking - I purely question the safety & necessity of that level of supplementation on a daily basis.

                                Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                                YOU ARE A TROLL, and I am reporting you.
                                Grow up Grizz.

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