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  • is there a reward for their pride?

    like, say... a sticker, of the golden star variety?

    i like those, how can i make them proud of me too?
    beautiful
    yeah you are

    Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
    lol

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    • Originally posted by t2t View Post
      So the lambast crew have just been dosed with their own vile medicine. Quackwatch down in flames... Come on guys and girls lambast. Oh, wait it was one of their own "Radialhead".

      Come on cori speak up, be fair, apply your biased assertions toward Radialhead,

      The assertions are completely ridiculous.

      I simply do not understand the promotion of these patent falsehoods that have no evidence to back them, from 'doctors' with no credibility, as some sort of important truths.

      The FDA, AMA, ADA would be soooooo proud of you all.
      This post however, is completely unnecessary and adds nothing.

      Are you trying to make the iodine thread into some sort of popularity contest? Is it that you think you are being picked on by the 'cool kids'?

      I couldn't care less about what is 'popular'. I *do* want to explore things like potential downsides to 'bleeding edge' self experimentation (as well as the benefits, duh).
      Last edited by magicmerl; 07-29-2012, 09:09 PM.
      Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

      Griff's cholesterol primer
      5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
      Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
      TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
      bloodorchid is always right

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      • Originally posted by t2t View Post
        So the lambast crew have just been dosed with their own vile medicine. Quackwatch down in flames... Come on guys and girls lambast. Oh, wait it was one of their own "Radialhead".

        Come on cori speak up, be fair, apply your biased assertions toward Radialhead,

        The assertions are completely ridiculous.

        I simply do not understand the promotion of these patent falsehoods that have no evidence to back them, from 'doctors' with no credibility, as some sort of important truths.

        The FDA, AMA, ADA would be soooooo proud of you all.
        Sorry man... I decided that little story was tripe all on my own, and I'm sick enough I don't have the energy to waste on trimming the wings off of your flying monkeys today, or anyone else's.


        I got my star.
        Last edited by cori93437; 07-29-2012, 09:16 PM.
        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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        • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
          is there a reward for their pride?

          like, say... a sticker, of the golden star variety?

          i like those, how can i make them proud of me too?
          And one for YOU darling!
          “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
          ~Friedrich Nietzsche
          And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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          • @magicmerl,

            Ask me that question when you ask the real trouble makers first. And why didn't tell them their many posts were unnecessary? I am not saying I am right on all my posts but neither are they.

            This whole thread has been made a joke.

            I would like to see some respect and restraint be implemented no matter who posts.

            I would like to see people decide for themselves whether info in a post is their cup of tea.
            Last edited by t2t; 07-29-2012, 09:24 PM.

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            • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
              And one for YOU darling!
              yay!
              beautiful
              yeah you are

              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
              lol

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              • t2t,

                Dude...
                You post stuff... other people post their opinion on it... sometimes with a truckload of scientific evidence that backs up our opinions, sometimes just our straight up opinion.

                That is how public forums work.

                If you don't want that style of discourse ... go to a place where naysayers aren't allowed??
                I'm NOT saying you aren't welcome to post here, you are very welcome!
                But other people can share how they feel too... even if it's to say... "Nah, that's bunk".
                Public forums are awesome like that.


                Here... a gold star for you too.
                “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                • i'm curious how this thread is a joke now, compared to before
                  beautiful
                  yeah you are

                  Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                  lol

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                  • i'm curious how this thread is a joke now, compared to before
                    Bloodorchid, I think I'll take that with fries...

                    Oh. I sound like you now!

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                    • Originally posted by t2t View Post
                      i'm curious how this thread is a joke now, compared to before
                      Bloodorchid, I think I'll take that with fries...

                      Oh. I sound like you now!
                      Sounds like a bunch of really weird anger issues you've got going on there...
                      How sad.
                      “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                      ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                      And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                      • Yes cori, I am sorry if I hurt you as you say you are sick.

                        I haven't completely been well either.

                        t2t

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                        • Originally posted by t2t View Post
                          i'm curious how this thread is a joke now, compared to before
                          Bloodorchid, I think I'll take that with fries...

                          Oh. I sound like you now!
                          it was a serious question

                          are you asking for fries with my shake?
                          beautiful
                          yeah you are

                          Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                          lol

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                          • Originally posted by t2t View Post
                            @magicmerl,

                            Ask me that question when you ask the real trouble makers first. And why didn't tell them their many posts were unnecessary? I am not saying I am right on all my posts but neither are they.
                            Look, the 'truth' about Iodine is something like this:
                            1. We don't need to take extra iodine
                            2. We could take a little extra iodine
                            3. We could take a lot of extra iodine

                            disclaimer: I do not take any Iodine supplements of any kind. This would appear to put me in camp #1. And that's fine, live and let live etc. BUT, if I start posting frequently telling everybody they don't need to take any iodine at all, and someone posts various studies etc that appear to show the benefits of iodine, to my mind that puts an extra onus on me to respond to criticisms people have of my position. What should I do?
                            a. Ignore their posts, disparage them personally, maybe even block them so I don't have to be affronted by unwelcome information?
                            b. Attemp to refute the information (either a poor study, testing the wrong thing, or a source with no credibility)
                            c. Change my position based on the new information

                            What I see in this thread is people in the mega-iodine camp adopting positiong A. And I can't respect that. It just seems too much like this article on political correctness.

                            Originally posted by the article said
                            What can't we say? One way to find these ideas is simply to look at things people do say, and get in trouble for. [2]

                            Of course, we're not just looking for things we can't say. We're looking for things we can't say that are true, or at least have enough chance of being true that the question should remain open. But many of the things people get in trouble for saying probably do make it over this second, lower threshold. No one gets in trouble for saying that 2 + 2 is 5, or that people in Pittsburgh are ten feet tall. Such obviously false statements might be treated as jokes, or at worst as evidence of insanity, but they are not likely to make anyone mad. The statements that make people mad are the ones they worry might be believed. I suspect the statements that make people maddest are those they worry might be true.
                            When I see someone attempting to shout out their opposition (rather than debate the merits of the points raised) then that sets off a flashing red light in my head that their position is not well founded.

                            I have not seen anywhere in this thread anything that comes close to alleviating my concerns about iodine toxicity. It was posted early on, but ignored. When I asked again, Grizz responded by passively aggressively suggesting that I pick a doctors protocol and go with it. What kind of response is that?

                            Originally posted by t2t View Post
                            This whole thread has been made a joke.
                            You're right about that. But I think that the most disturbing part of the thread is how grizz openly advocates what seems like a disturbingly high amount of iodine, yet does not seem to have ways of responding to valid criticisms that I read as credible.

                            This annoys me, because if there's something to Iodine, I want to know about it too and adapt accordingly.
                            Last edited by magicmerl; 07-29-2012, 09:55 PM.
                            Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                            Griff's cholesterol primer
                            5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                            Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                            TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                            bloodorchid is always right

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                            • Perhaps those of us who are actually using Iodine could start a new thread so we could share our experiences with each other. Then the rest of you could stay here and complain about anything and everything like you already do. What? You want answers? You think you're entitled? When it comes to iodine, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

                              I mean, I've got most of you on "Ignore" already but I still have to wade through your toxic comments when someone else quotes your posts. So tired of y'all wasting my time when I come here to read about iodine and related topics. Just talk to your doctors if you want "valid" iodine advice. You don't want to consider the views of the doctors who are already successfully treating people with serious medical issues so I have no idea how to help you here. In fact, you shouldn't take iodine at all--just eat lots of Kelp and Seaweed and leave the rest of us alone while we try to detox bromides and halides.

                              I don't plan to change my point of view anytime soon just because the paid Big Pharma Whore--"Quackwatch"--says so.

                              I think Owl had the best advice for all of us--get tested so then we each know how we're doing with or without iodine supplementation. In the meantime, I would like a safe place to post my questions or results with other interested and/or experienced ones. Is this too much to ask???? Apparently it is.

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                              • so posting alternating points of view on the same topic is harshing your buzz?
                                beautiful
                                yeah you are

                                Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                                lol

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