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  • Originally posted by Happy Paleo Girl View Post
    After finally making my way slowly up to 1 drop of 5% Lugol's per day (during which I felt GREAT the entire time), I'm now increasing my dose by 1/4 drop per week. Since I've started doing that (almost 2 weeks ago), my mood has been all over the place. I feel like I've been on an emotional roller coaster! There have been a few other factors, but I don't think that those things really would have had that much of an impact on the stable contentment that I've been enjoying since I started my slow iodine titration.

    I find myself crying easily, being irrationally emotionally, feeling lonely and depressed. I did have one really good day this week, that I felt back to normal, and (possibly coincidentally?) it was after forgetting to take my iodine the day before. I'm not experiencing any of the other detox symptoms that I had before when I was taking too much too soon, such as broderma and bloat (but I was taking a LOT more iodine than I am now).

    Is it really possible that increasing by 1.5 mgs a week could be too much? I want the happy, content stability that I had before, but I also want to get to a high enough dose of iodine to help with the issues that I'm working on, particularly candida. From what I've read, it takes doses in the 100 - 150 mg range to eradicate it. At the rate I'm going now, it will take me another 7 months just to get to 50 mgs!

    I'm wondering if there is anything that I can do to help with the detox (which I assume is what's causing this mood disturbance). Though it hasn't helped me in the past, I will start taking salt in the mornings again. I'm thinking of picking up some milk thistle. And I am taking all of the other required supplements.

    This is frustrating!!
    YES ! IMO, 1.5mg more a week is a lot of iodine if you are extremely toxic. You might want to increase your daily salt intake and your salt flushing intervals. I have just discovered this valuable information re: Why salt flushes out bromides. You might want to study this in depth to see if it will help you.
    - - - If you can’t tolerate salt, then mix it into Lemonade

    I would slow it down to adding 1.5mg per month, or pulse dosing with the salt flush whenever you notice a problem.

    Grizz
    Last edited by Grizz; 07-28-2012, 08:25 AM.

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    • I really enjoy the Curezone because there are NO Trolls such as we have infesting this thread to be seen. Trolls are immediately thrown out by the moderators.

      If the Trolls infesting our thread start posting their vile at the Curezone, the moderators would quickly kick them out.

      T2T, What do you think?

      Grizz

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      • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
        I really enjoy the Curezone because there are NO Trolls such as we have infesting this thread to be seen. Trolls are immediately thrown out by the moderators.

        If the Trolls infesting our thread start posting their vile at the Curezone, the moderators would quickly kick them out.

        T2T, What do you think?

        Grizz
        Fucking hell you are a loon, and I just reported you and suggested they cull all your stupid ass posts from this thread. Over this place so don't care if this gets deleted too. I hate your nemesis because she drove many of my friends here away with her attitude but your loony crap -- when it stops being hysterical -- is just demented. You have lost all credibility and sound like a five year old. seriously Grizz. Read back and just be ashamed.

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        • Oh, I forgot Grizz

          TROLL

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          • and whilst I am mad about Darth being banned and assholes getting away with it because the mods just delete their posts,how about this gem about Grizz and his sexual fantasies about children, great discussion about censorship that followed

            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...d23924-29.html

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            • Originally posted by amberlee View Post
              Fucking hell you are a loon

              +1

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              • Originally posted by chronyx View Post
                +1
                +2

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                • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                  I really enjoy the Curezone because there are NO Trolls such as we have infesting this thread to be seen. Trolls are immediately thrown out by the moderators.

                  If the Trolls infesting our thread start posting their vile at the Curezone, the moderators would quickly kick them out.

                  T2T, What do you think?

                  Grizz
                  I think I reported you too. Damn lunatic, way to ruin a good thread!...hebs

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                  • Originally posted by amberlee View Post
                    Oh, I forgot Grizz

                    TROLL
                    This. He's definitely trolling now.

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                    • Originally posted by breadsauce View Post
                      And as I keep pointing out (which is a positive thing, not negative - not complaining, trolling etc - just pointing out) my iodine skin patch test is lasting 24 hours now. On 3 drops of Lugol's 3% three times a week - about 10 mg per week.

                      Grizz doesn't seem to want to address how successful small doses can obviously be. And with no need to take masses of cofactors on such small amounts.
                      If you're so concerned with valid medical studies and results on Google, why are you relying on an iodine skin patch test? It is not valid, Google it.

                      Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      Oh Puuuuuhleezzze Grizz. You are fighting at strawmen yet again. Teh eeeevil doctors WANT to strap women down to operating tables and cut off their breasts just to buy their next Beemer. First of all, most doctors these days work for HMO's. They get a salary. They don't get paid "by the job".

                      Also, no doctor (other than an extremely rare ill-informed hack who graduated from medical school in the dark ages) would ever even suggest mastectomy for FBD because FBD does not cause cancer. Full stop.

                      No, I am not going to repost all the stuff cori and I have already posted about this.

                      Also "Dr." Derry, quoted above is just flat out wrong about in situ vs. invasive tumors. One is not just an earlier "stage" of the other. They are completely different kinds of cancers. Therefor all of his numbers about how long it takes before a tumor is detectable via mammography are pulled out of his ear. Different kinds of cancer develop at different rates.

                      I don't think anything "Dr." Derry says after such ridiculous factual misstatements can be taken seriously.
                      I am sick of your snarky, snotty comments about everything and everyone. You have nothing to add to this thread. It seems you just like to amuse yourself with hatred.

                      Originally posted by oxide View Post
                      I think it's ironic that people in the iodine thread are demanding all sorts of mainstream research. Isn't MDA itself stuffed full of N=1 experimentation and people who fly in the face of CW?
                      Exactly.

                      Originally posted by breadsauce View Post
                      Damn cheek. Paleobird is one of the main voices of reason on this thread - indeed, on MDA.
                      Poisoned minds think alike.


                      You know, in all of the ranting over the last 2 weeks when I've been on vacation and then tried to catch up, there has been a lot of talk about how much iodine we should be taking.
                      Yet no one has advocated TESTING YOUR IODINE LEVEL. Duh. Get tested!! I did.
                      Find out if you need a lot, a little, or none at all! Go here - Hakala Research - Home and stop arguing about it.

                      Do the 24hr. iodine loading test, and get the bromine and fluoride tests to tell if you have pushed them out.
                      If someone is fully loaded with iodine and not the other halogens, then large doses of iodine may be harmful. But if someone is loaded with the other halogens, they may need large doses of iodine to push them out. I haven't seen any study that has been controlled for the other halogens.

                      My tests showed low iodine, and high bromide (they didn't have the flouride test then). I have now been on 50mg Iodoral for 2.5 months, and plan to retest in the next few weeks.

                      I am hypothyroid, and had a low daytime temperature (around 97.3 most of the time), cold hands and feet, etc. Taking thyroid meds T3 and NT, my temp came up to 98.3. But since iodine, my daytime temperature is now a normal 98.6, which I could never achieve with my thyroid meds alone, even with blood work perfect according to STTM. I am still taking the same amount of meds, iodine had not caused a need to change them.

                      If my iodine, etc. tests come back good, I will drop down to 12.5mg and retest after 6 months or so.

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                      • Originally posted by Owl View Post
                        If you're so concerned with valid medical studies and results on Google, why are you relying on an iodine skin patch test? It is not valid, Google it.



                        I am sick of your snarky, snotty comments about everything and everyone. You have nothing to add to this thread. It seems you just like to amuse yourself with hatred.



                        Exactly.



                        Poisoned minds think alike.


                        You know, in all of the ranting over the last 2 weeks when I've been on vacation and then tried to catch up, there has been a lot of talk about how much iodine we should be taking.
                        Yet no one has advocated TESTING YOUR IODINE LEVEL. Duh. Get tested!! I did.
                        Find out if you need a lot, a little, or none at all! Go here - Hakala Research - Home and stop arguing about it.

                        Do the 24hr. iodine loading test, and get the bromine and fluoride tests to tell if you have pushed them out.
                        If someone is fully loaded with iodine and not the other halogens, then large doses of iodine may be harmful. But if someone is loaded with the other halogens, they may need large doses of iodine to push them out. I haven't seen any study that has been controlled for the other halogens.

                        My tests showed low iodine, and high bromide (they didn't have the flouride test then). I have now been on 50mg Iodoral for 2.5 months, and plan to retest in the next few weeks.

                        I am hypothyroid, and had a low daytime temperature (around 97.3 most of the time), cold hands and feet, etc. Taking thyroid meds T3 and NT, my temp came up to 98.3. But since iodine, my daytime temperature is now a normal 98.6, which I could never achieve with my thyroid meds alone, even with blood work perfect according to STTM. I am still taking the same amount of meds, iodine had not caused a need to change them.

                        If my iodine, etc. tests come back good, I will drop down to 12.5mg and retest after 6 months or so.
                        Finally sensible offense to the offense!
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                        • Originally Posted by breadsauce
                          And as I keep pointing out (which is a positive thing, not negative - not complaining, trolling etc - just pointing out) my iodine skin patch test is lasting 24 hours now. On 3 drops of Lugol's 3% three times a week - about 10 mg per week.
                          Grizz doesn't seem to want to address how successful small doses can obviously be. And with no need to take masses of cofactors on such small amounts.
                          Originally posted by Owl View Post
                          If you're so concerned with valid medical studies and results on Google, why are you relying on an iodine skin patch test? It is not valid, Google it.
                          *Originally Posted by Paleobird *
                          Oh Puuuuuhleezzze Grizz. You are fighting at strawmen yet again. Teh eeeevil doctors WANT to strap women down to operating tables and cut off their breasts just to buy their next Beemer. First of all, most doctors these days work for HMO's. They get a salary. They don't get paid "by the job".

                          Also, no doctor (other than an extremely rare ill-informed hack who graduated from medical school in the dark ages) would ever even suggest mastectomy for FBD because FBD does not cause cancer. Full stop.

                          No, I am not going to repost all the stuff cori and I have already posted about this.
                          Also "Dr." Derry, quoted above is just flat out wrong about in situ vs. invasive tumors. One is not just an earlier "stage" of the other. They are completely different kinds of cancers. Therefor all of his numbers about how long it takes before a tumor is detectable via mammography are pulled out of his ear. Different kinds of cancer develop at different rates.
                          I don't think anything "Dr." Derry says after such ridiculous factual misstatements can be taken seriously.
                          Originally posted by owl
                          I am sick of your snarky, snotty comments about everything and everyone. You have nothing to add to this thread. It seems you just like to amuse yourself with hatred.

                          Originally Posted by oxide *
                          I think it's ironic that people in the iodine thread are demanding all sorts of mainstream research. Isn't MDA itself stuffed full of N=1 experimentation and people who fly in the face of CW?
                          Originally posted by owl
                          Exactly.



                          *
                          Originally Posted by breadsauce *
                          Damn cheek. Paleobird is one of the main voices of reason on this thread - indeed, on MDA.
                          Originally posted by owl
                          Poisoned minds think alike.
                          Originally posted by owl
                          You know, in all of the ranting over the last 2 weeks when I've been on vacation and then tried to catch up, there has been a lot of talk about how much iodine we should be taking.
                          Yet no one has advocated TESTING YOUR IODINE LEVEL. Duh. Get tested!! I did.
                          Find out if you need a lot, a little, or none at all! Go here - Hakala Research - Home and stop arguing about it.

                          Do the 24hr. iodine loading test, and get the bromine and fluoride tests to tell if you have pushed them out.
                          If someone is fully loaded with iodine and not the other halogens, then large doses of iodine may be harmful. But if someone is loaded with the other halogens, they may need large doses of iodine to push them out. I haven't seen any study that has been controlled for the other halogens.

                          My tests showed low iodine, and high bromide (they didn't have the flouride test then). I have now been on 50mg Iodoral for 2.5 months, and plan to retest in the next few weeks.

                          I am hypothyroid, and had a low daytime temperature (around 97.3 most of the time), cold hands and feet, etc. Taking thyroid meds T3 and NT, my temp came up to 98.3. But since iodine, my daytime temperature is now a normal 98.6, which I could never achieve with my thyroid meds alone, even with blood work perfect according to STTM. I am still taking the same amount of meds, iodine had not caused a need to change them.

                          If my iodine, etc. tests come back good, I will drop down to 12.5mg and retest after 6 months or so.
                          Owl,
                          You are terrific!

                          Thank you so much for standing up against the Trolls ! I wish everyone would report them as Trolls, and maybe the Moderators will FINALLY do something to stop them.

                          Grizz
                          Last edited by Grizz; 07-28-2012, 10:23 AM.

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                          • You are delusional

                            What happened to your vitamin D rants? spare us. If this forum was a time machine we would also have your rants on vit B and back in the 80s, vit C.

                            at least you spare us these days from your diagrams and graphic expkanations of the clitoris.

                            I have read your posts. scary

                            Oh, who is the 'honored guest' these days on your chatshow here?
                            Last edited by Quarry; 07-28-2012, 10:19 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by Radialhead View Post
                              This. He's definitely trolling now.
                              +1

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                              • Originally posted by Owl View Post
                                I am sick of your snarky, snotty comments about everything and everyone. You have nothing to add to this thread. It seems you just like to amuse yourself with hatred..
                                but I agree with this about paleobird

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