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  • Iodine Question & Answer Files.

    Everything you wanted to know, but was afraid to ask is right here:
    Frequently Asked Questions & Answers

    Enjoy,
    Grizz

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    • * Iodine and Breast Cancer Prevention
      * Iodine and Fibrocystic Breast Prevention
      * Iodine Prevents Needless Mastectomies

      Doctors offer women needless mastectomies for painful Fibrocystic Breasts (FBD) when the proven cure is simple iodine supplements.

      My first evidence is a woman and her friends in my own neighborhood who were told to "Learn to live with their breast pain or cut them off." I could not believe that doctors could be so CRUEL & INDIFFERENT to exploit frightened women for maximum profit. One Double Mastectomy = a new car and a prescription for iodine = SQUAT.

      Then additional evidence began coming into this thread with heart warming testimonials from women who testified that their doctors had recommended barbaric mastectomies to end their breast pain & suffering. See complete details in Iodine References, chapter Testimonials - - Fibrocystic Breasts: http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references
      I always make it a point to ask women what their doctors have told them.

      And now we have Dr. Beaulieu testifying to the same facts:
      ====================================
      Originally posted by DrBeaulieu
      Fibrocystic disease occurs most frequently in the breasts, uterus, and/or ovaries, and it is very common. It affects most women in our society at one time or another. Most fibrocystic disease of the uterus and ovaries is discovered first via gynecological exam, often having produced no symptoms to give a clue to its presence. Those affected by fibrocystic disease of the breast know they have it.

      Fibrocystic breast disease is most always first discovered by the patient who is responding to very tender and lumpy breast tissue. Many times this progresses to the point of extreme discomfort and/or pain. A great many women live in fear of breast cancer because of fibrocystic disease, which is a positive risk factor for breast cancer. More women every year allow preventative mastectomies and hysterectomies because of fears of getting cancer from fibrocystic disease.
      Medicine seems to have few additional answers. Is there anything else that can be done?
      [Grizz: Unscrupulous Doctors are unlikely to ever suggest iodine! Double Mastectomy=New Car, Iodine = SQUAT]

      In almost every case, fibrocystic disease is curable [with iodine].....When the fibrocystic disease is particularly bad, the application of iodine directly to the breast areas most affected improves results even more, ........Many women have reported back to me that their OB/GYN told them that their uterine and/or ovarian cysts that were bigger than an orange have disappeared [with iodine] ......... Complete article here:
      Iodine and Fibrocystic Disease
      Dr. Derry explains why Fibrocystic Breasts occur and how iodine cures the condition & also how iodine prevents Breast Cancers:
      Derry. Iodine and the Breast -- Research

      Originally posted by DrDerry
      On Breast Cancer
      Once the cell has become a cancer cell then it can take two different turns. It can multiply and spread or it can multiply and just stay where it is. The second is called carcinoma in situ. (cancer at the site) The second phase(cancer multiplying and spreading) is the part we are all familiar with. Since on average breast cancer cells double every 100 days, it takes 9 years before mammograms can pick it up and around 11 years before we find it ourselves. (15)

      This second clinical part of the cancer phase (the spreading) seems to be arrested by adequate levels of thyroid hormone in all tissues. Thyroid hormone completely controls the connective tissue which forms a strong sieve-like barrier to the passage of cancer cells trying to spread.(16-18) Low levels of thyroid hormone in the tissues (especially connective tissues) promotes the spread of cancer cells. So the body cancer defense system has two parts iodine for the first pre-cancer phase and thyroid hormone and iodine together for the second clinical phase. There is some overlapping of these two defense systems. The excess iodine flows out in the urine. Of course, because the iodine flows out in the urine it is preventing the development of abnormal cells in the bladder and kidney system at the same time. This then prevents cancers developing there.
      Complete article here:
      Dr. David Derry Answers Reader Questions -- Breast Cancer, Tamoxifen, Thyroid & Weight Loss
      Iodine Research Reports

      More Testimonials:
      My own lumps and very thick breast tissue was never "officially" diagnosed, but I can tell you that my breasts are a whole cup-size smaller, and my lumps, pain, and thick rubbery breast tissue is GONE. My breasts have even 'perked upwards' a bit! (I'm almost 53!)

      "Metastatic Calcification: ... When the supply of Vitamin K2(menaquinone-7 is lacking in the body calcium deposits in arteries, aorta, muscle tissue, breast tissue and tendon sheaths causing bone spurs instead of in the bones where it belongs. This process of deposition of calcium in abnormal sites is known as metastatic calcification. Sites where these deposits may occur include muscles, breasts, kidneys and heel tendons. Provision of ample supplies of Vitamin K2 from one capsule of Synergy K should reverse this process by removing the deposits of abnormal calcium from soft tissues and placing them in bone where they belong... Much more on Vitamin K2" (Confirms what T2T has been posting)
      Thread: Avoiding a mastectomy at Iodine Supplementation Support by VWT Team (ThreadID: 1559000)
      How to Supplement with iodine, Dr. Reports on Fibrocystic Breasts and Testimonials here:
      http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references

      Grizz
      Last edited by Grizz; 07-27-2012, 10:20 AM.

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      • Quote from Grizz


        "More Testimonials:
        My own lumps and very thick breast tissue was never "officially" diagnosed, but I can tell you that my breasts are a whole cup-size smaller, and my lumps, pain, and thick rubbery breast tissue is GONE. My breasts have even 'perked upwards' a bit! (I'm almost 53!)

        "Metastatic Calcification: ... When the supply of Vitamin K2(menaquinone-7 is lacking in the body calcium deposits in arteries, aorta, muscle tissue, breast tissue and tendon sheaths causing bone spurs instead of in the bones where it belongs. This process of deposition of calcium in abnormal sites is known as metastatic calcification. Sites where these deposits may occur include muscles, breasts, kidneys and heel tendons. Provision of ample supplies of Vitamin K2 from one capsule of Synergy K should reverse this process by removing the deposits of abnormal calcium from soft tissues and placing them in bone where they belong... Much more on Vitamin K2" (Confirms what T2T has been posting)
        Thread: Avoiding a mastectomy at Iodine Supplementation Support by VWT Team (ThreadID: 1559000)"

        My reading of this would make me more likely to supplement vitamin K2 mk4 and mk7, rather than mega doses of iodine, if I was a woman and worried. Or am I missing something ??

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        • Don't you just LOVE Grizz's hyperbole?

          "My first evidence is a woman and her friends in my own neighborhood who were told to "Learn to live with their breast pain or cut them off." I could not believe that doctors could be so CRUEL & INDIFFERENT to exploit frightened women for maximum profit. One Double Mastectomy = a new car and a prescription for iodine = SQUAT." -Grizz

          Does he really think that the surgeon makes enough to buy a new car off of a single surgical procedure such as a double Mast?
          He also acts like there are SO MANY women out there that this is being suggested to...
          Sorry, but no, this is not a routine procedure by any means.

          Also... as a woman... I sure the fuck don't tell older men in my neighborhood all about my breast problems.
          Seriously... who does that?

          Also, quoting what he posted from Dr. Beaulieu...
          "In almost every case, fibrocystic disease is curable [with iodine].....When the fibrocystic disease is particularly bad, the application of iodine directly to the breast areas most affected improves results even more, ........Many women have reported back to me that their OB/GYN told them that their uterine and/or ovarian cysts that were bigger than an orange have disappeared [with iodine] ..."

          As has been posted in other medical journal articles, reduction or "curing" of the Type 1 FBD cysts (the only type significantly associated with a increased risk of cancer development) did not reduce the additional risk of developing breast cancer. Once a person has FBD, and it has been determined that the cysts are Type 1, that person need to remain diligent about the additional risk and get the breasts checked for cancer regularly, as well as have any lumps immediately scheduled for a check by a doctor.

          Again... once a person has FBD with Type 1 cysts, even if the cysts are "cured" the increased risk for cancer is never reduced.

          I would also like to point out that "Dr. Beailieu" is NOT a medical DOCTOR.
          On his website he is billed as an "Allergy Specialist and Clinical Nutritionist"... "a Chiropractor with a Masters degree in nutrition, over 40 years experience in clinical nutrition and certification in NAET" which is " an allergy treatment based on classical acupuncture that is performed without needles".

          Taking medical advice form someone who calls themselves a Doctor, yet has no credentials... no MD, no PhD, no medical training at all in fact... seems ill advised.

          And Dr. Derry became the testimonial and advice king after getting his license to practice medicine in Canada suspended in 2002 for prescribing dessicated thyroid to patients who tested within the normal range for those hormones, at dosages that were often much higher than what is considered safe in the medical community.

          I also don't take medical advice from doctors who had their licenses revoked. YMMV of course.
          “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
          ~Friedrich Nietzsche
          And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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          • Oh Puuuuuhleezzze Grizz. You are fighting at strawmen yet again. Teh eeeevil doctors WANT to strap women down to operating tables and cut off their breasts just to buy their next Beemer. First of all, most doctors these days work for HMO's. They get a salary. They don't get paid "by the job".

            Also, no doctor (other than an extremely rare ill-informed hack who graduated from medical school in the dark ages) would ever even suggest mastectomy for FBD because FBD does not cause cancer. Full stop.

            No, I am not going to repost all the stuff cori and I have already posted about this.

            Also "Dr." Derry, quoted above is just flat out wrong about in situ vs. invasive tumors. One is not just an earlier "stage" of the other. They are completely different kinds of cancers. Therefor all of his numbers about how long it takes before a tumor is detectable via mammography are pulled out of his ear. Different kinds of cancer develop at different rates.

            I don't think anything "Dr." Derry says after such ridiculous factual misstatements can be taken seriously.
            Last edited by Paleobird; 07-27-2012, 10:45 AM.

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            • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post

              As has been posted in other medical journal articles, reduction or "curing" of the Type 1 FBD cysts (the only type significantly associated with a increased risk of cancer development) did not reduce the additional risk of developing breast cancer. Once a person has FBD, and it has been determined that the cysts are Type 1, that person need to remain diligent about the additional risk and get the breasts checked for cancer regularly, as well as have any lumps immediately scheduled for a check by a doctor.

              I would also like to point out that "Dr. Beailieu" is NOT a medical DOCTOR.
              On his website he is billed as an "Allergy Specialist and Clinical Nutritionist"... "a Chiropractor with a Masters degree in nutrition, over 40 years experience in clinical nutrition and certification in NAET" which is " an allergy treatment based on classical acupuncture that is performed without needles".

              Taking medical advice form someone who calls themselves a Doctor, yet has no credentials... no MD, no PhD, no medical training at all in fact... seems ill advised.

              And Dr. Derry became the testimonial and advice king after getting his license to practice medicine in Canada suspended in 2002 for prescribing dessicated thyroid to patients who tested within the normal range for those hormones, at dosages that were often much higher than what is considered safe in the medical community.

              I also don't take medical advice from doctors who had their licenses revoked. YMMV of course.


              Once again, there is an *association* between FBD and breast cancer. Correlation not causation.

              And Grizz sure does pick some winners for his "expert" testimonials.

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              • YMMV?

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                • Gems from the Internet:

                  BEWARE OF MEMORY FOAM MATTRESS CHEMICALS
                  =====================================
                  None of my family (husband and two dogs) were hypothyroid until we got a
                  Tempur-pedic mattress. Within 6 months on that bed I was very sick and
                  continued to get sicker. Complete brain fog, zero energy, goiter,
                  swollen lymph nodes for over a year, exercise intolerance (my adrenals
                  went too). It took us 4 years to figure out that the bed was making us
                  sick, but by that time all four of us were hypo. I started to feel
                  better as soon as that bed was out of the house. I no loner have brain
                  fog or swollen nodes. I still have a goiter and we all still take NTH,
                  but I'm no longer a zombie. I had horrible detox symptoms when I
                  started to take iodine and I'm currently covered (like someone sprinkled
                  pepper over my whole body) with tiny cherry angiomas from the bromide
                  detox.

                  So don't believe the lady at Tempur-pedic. I did research a year ago and
                  they won't divulge their chemical mix for their flame retardants, but
                  whatever it is, it attacks the thyroid and quite possibly the adrenals.
                  ----- in Chicago
                  ==========================================
                  Wow, -------, that is very interesting that you say all this. My health too has
                  drastically gotten worse over the last few years and all this after getting a
                  Tempur-pedic! I have gone severly hypo and my adrenals are very weak. I also
                  have cherry angiomas all over my body (some not so small). I have not slept on
                  that mattress in almost 5 months, but now I also have a Tempur-pedic pillow
                  Thanks for making the connection. I would never have thought to look at my
                  mattress.

                  I have been taking Iodoral for a year and a half and I don't seem to notice much
                  improvement. Maybe that is due to the mattress?
                  ------
                  =================================================
                  Hi -----, I was concerned about this too. We bought our tempur pedic bed last
                  fall and I love it but have had a lot of symptoms. I traded the free pillow for
                  a buckwheat pillow which I LOVE! It is the best thing I've ever used for my
                  neck. As for bromide in the bed, I bought an organic mattress cover like for
                  dust/ mites, so I hope it is reducing our exposure. Amazon carries these items.
                  ---------
                  Chemicals found in mattresses

                  We have a Queen Sized memory foam mattress (similar to the TempurPedic) from Amazon.Com, $400 including delivery. We just LOVE IT. However we wrapped it into a zippered plastic bag to keep the chemicals out of the room. We always wrap our mattresses into this plastic zippered bag, and we have no such health problems.

                  Grizz
                  Last edited by Grizz; 07-27-2012, 02:44 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                    Gems from the Internet:




                    We have a Queen Sized memory foam mattress (similar to the TempurPedic) from Amazon.Com, $400 including delivery. We just LOVE IT. However we wrapped it into a zippered plastic bag to keep the chemicals out of the room. We always wrap our mattresses into this plastic zippered bag

                    Grizz
                    LOL... gasses exchange easily thorough zippers...
                    Sorry for the laugh, but c'mon.
                    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                    • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                      I could not believe that doctors could be so CRUEL & INDIFFERENT to exploit frightened women for maximum profit. One Double Mastectomy = a new car and a prescription for iodine = SQUAT.
                      Hanlon's razor, Grizz. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
                      Argue not with idiots, lest they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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                      • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                        LOL... gasses exchange easily thorough zippers...
                        Sorry for the laugh, but c'mon.
                        Virgin post here for me, resisted coming on here for ages... Lol

                        Also...I've been using memory foam toppers & pillows both personally & in my bodywork practice for about 12 years. Some of my past clients have had chemical sensitivities & I was hesitant to switch from organic cotton futons & pillows to foam. After reading up on the subject & talking to some foam specialists in Calif, all I did was cook my brand new foam products in the sun for a couple of days right from the store when I brought them home. Voila! No more chemical smell. As for Chiropractors not being Doctors....well they are Drs of Chiropractic, fwiw... And NAET DOES WORK, fat least for some people it does. I have a friend in Calif it totally worked for to get rid of allergies that had plagued him most of his life... Again, fwiw...
                        "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                        "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                        "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                        • Originally posted by Betorq View Post
                          Virgin post here for me, resisted coming on here for ages... Lol

                          Also...I've been using memory foam toppers & pillows both personally & in my bodywork practice for about 12 years. Some of my past clients have had chemical sensitivities & I was hesitant to switch from organic cotton futons & pillows to foam. After reading up on the subject & talking to some foam specialists in Calif, all I did was cook my brand new foam products in the sun for a couple of days right from the store when I brought them home. Voila! No more chemical smell. As for Chiropractors not being Doctors....well they are Drs of Chiropractic, fwiw... And NAET DOES WORK, fat least for some people it does. I have a friend in Calif it totally worked for to get rid of allergies that had plagued him most of his life... Again, fwiw...
                          Betorq,

                          Welcome to our fun & battle scarred thread ! And many thanks for your tip to get rid of the chemical smell. I'll cross post your solution to the thread where this discussion is taking place !

                          Putting our mattress into a zippered plastic bag (to prevent mites) has worked out perfectly for us. No chemical smell, and no health problems.

                          Grizz

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                          • Betorq, you know I adore you and your dimple but NAET is way far off into the land of Woo.

                            Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                            And the founder of it, Devi Nambudripad has some accreditation "issues" as well. from the wiki link:

                            "She is licensed as a chiropractor[1] and acupuncturist[2] in California. She also identifies herself as an M.D.. Her website states that she received the Doctor of Medicine degree from University of Health Sciences Antigua (UHSA) in January 2002.[21] The California Medical Board does not list an active license, and it does not recognize medical degrees from UHSA as valid, listing it as a "disapproved" school since 1995.[22]"
                            Last edited by Paleobird; 07-27-2012, 03:21 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Betorq View Post
                              Virgin post here for me, resisted coming on here for ages... Lol

                              Also...I've been using memory foam toppers & pillows both personally & in my bodywork practice for about 12 years. Some of my past clients have had chemical sensitivities & I was hesitant to switch from organic cotton futons & pillows to foam. After reading up on the subject & talking to some foam specialists in Calif, all I did was cook my brand new foam products in the sun for a couple of days right from the store when I brought them home. Voila! No more chemical smell. As for Chiropractors not being Doctors....well they are Drs of Chiropractic, fwiw... And NAET DOES WORK, fat least for some people it does. I have a friend in Calif it totally worked for to get rid of allergies that had plagued him most of his life... Again, fwiw...
                              My issue was with said person speaking on medical topics like FBD, cysts, cancer etc as if had medical training in those areas when they had actually had none.

                              Those others may be legitimate holistic practices, I have used a chiropractor myself several times, but they do not equal any sort medical training that I would trust to assess and prescribe treatment for the above noted areas of physical illness.
                              Last edited by cori93437; 07-27-2012, 03:19 PM.
                              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                              • Hiya, Betorq. Really, this thread isn't bad if you skip the longer posts.

                                I think it's ironic that people in the iodine thread are demanding all sorts of mainstream research. Isn't MDA itself stuffed full of N=1 experimentation and people who fly in the face of CW? For all we know, Grizz could be the Gary Taubes of Iodine. (Now, if only Grizz were a little more systematic like Taubes was.)

                                I for one am more interested in the history of how Iodine came to be ignored. Or, more studies on bromine. It's been observed that breast cancer rates are higher in areas where iodine is depleted from the soil. What about areas with more bromine contamination? Any connection there? Or what about the connection between obesity and higher rates of breast cancer? Makes me wonder if both are caused by bread made from brominated flour: the wheat makes you fat and the bromine give you cancer...

                                Just stuff to think about.
                                5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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