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  • Hi Paleo girl,

    Here is a girl who discovered how to get rid of flouride, and get rid of acne. Some nice before and after pics.

    Fluoroderma: Acne Caused by Fluoride Exposure


    http://www.celluliteinvestigation.co...luoroderma.pdf


    P.S. With evaporation you will absorb about 12% to 14% of iodine through the skin. I suspect one would absorb a higher percentage if you use grapeseed oil, olive oil, coconut oil with the Iodine or wrap the area, if possible with plastic or large bandaid. So 100 MILLIgrams of elemental iodine by itself, painted on, would give you 12mg to 14 mg's through your skin.

    Be well,

    t2t

    P.S. You might want to try B5 (Pantothenic Acid) Most of the 33 reviews are positive and many of the women are in their 30’s. Most of these girls are taking 2000 milligrams to 5000 milligrams a day but hey, if it works…

    Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Pan Acid (Pantothenic Acid) 1000mg Timed Release - 100 - Sustained Release Tablet

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    • Originally posted by oxide View Post
      Don't use iodine on your face!!! It really does a number on your skin.

      I've tried various iodine applications in my experiments with the moles, and tried a little acne painting on a cyst on my neck. I don't know what magic Grizz is doing, but painting and carrier oils don't do anything to my skin. The only thing that seems to work is to soak the entire pad (5 mm x 5 mm) of a commercial band-aid with Lugol's and slap one on every day. Even then, all it does is burn the entire skin layer to a crisp (I mean this literally, the skin is brown and breaks into pieces, like a scab), taking off layers of the flaw with it. My skin looks like a combination of ground beef and 2nd degree burn. It might be worth it for a mole, but not for a zit. And you don't want this on your face.

      [No Grizz, do NOT yell at me to use a carrier oil. I tried it. It doesn't work.]

      When the cyst gets close to the surface, you may try the home-made spot band-aid. Roll up a tiny piece of gauze into a tiny ball (2 mm x 2 mm), stick the gauze on a piece of adhesive tape, drop Lugol's on the guaze, and apply directly. Same effect but a much smaller area. Be very very careful, and take it off immediately if you feel it stinging.

      I once put the iodine band-aid on a mosquito bite, and took it off after only one hour. It worked to stop the itch, but the burned skin stayed around for 10 days, while the bite would have been gone after 3 days. Sometimes it's best not to mess with something.
      Oxide,
      I will never yell at you. I know we have differing opinions sometimes, but good friends like us can always overcome differing opinions. Sometimes we are BOTH right but at opposing viewpoints. Such is to be expected from a brilliant woman like yourself.

      Grizz

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      • HUGE AMOUNTS of IODINE given by DOCTORS ORDERS...!!!

        For those few folks that have allergys to Iodine take heart. And to those concerned about large doses of iodine going into their body, Doctors routinely administer 70 GRAMS of IODINE dye into the arteries while performing radiographic tests.

        In complicated cases, these massive quantities may have to be increased by 100 per cent or even more, involving more than 200 GRAMS (g) of iodine (400++ g of RCM) being injected intravascularly for film-screen radiographic angiography, probably the largest quantity of any drug used in the whole of clinical medicine. Wow 200 GRAMS of iodine and some of these same doctors work with the FDA to limit the amount of iodine you can buy!!! WTH! Sorry It irritates me. t2t

        BROWNSTEIN

        My experience has shown true allergy to inorganic, non-radioactive iodine is very rare. Out of over 3,000 patients treated with iodine I have found 3 with a true allergy exhibiting symptoms of a skin rash. These patients were treated with NAET (Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques), an acupressure treatment and two were able to overcome their allergy and take the iodine. One of the three above patients has not been able to take iodine due to an allergy.”

        Re: A review of iodine toxicity reports. at The Truth in Medicine (MessageID: 1877788)

        HUGE QUANTITY OF IODINE REQUIRED!!!!

        Very large amounts of iodine are necessary because of the low sensitivity inherent in conventional photographic film-screen radiography. This low sensitivity to iodine is not an inherent property of the X-ray beam but is due to the low sensitivity of the photographic process in distinguishing minor differences in radio-opacity. Alternative nonphotographic X-ray detection recording systems, such as photodetectors with electronic amplification, like those used in CT scanning and in digital subtraction angiography (DSA), are very much more sensitive to minor differences in iodine concentration as demonstrated by 95 per cent tumour blush in all cerebral tumours on CT after IV injection of RCM compared to about 20 per cent blush after intra-arterial injection using photographic film-screen radiography.

        The average daily physiological turnover of iodine is 0.0001 GRAM (g.) The total iodine content in the body (mainly in the thyroid) is 0.01 GRAM (g). The requirement for a 2-, 3- or 4-vessel angiogram (with conventional film-screen photographic recording) may be 70 GRAMS (g) of iodine, delivered in, say, 30 min into the arterial supply trees of very sensitive organs, for example, the brain, kidney, or heart. This is 700 000 times the daily body turnover of iodine and it is testimony to the low toxicity of radiographic contrast media such as iothalamate RCM (either HOCM or LOCM) that this huge quantity of iodine can be accepted into the arterial tree of the most sensitive organs of the body with very rare evidence of severe toxicity.

        In complicated cases, these massive quantities may have to be increased by 100 per cent or even more, involving more than 200 GRAMS (g) of iodine (400++ g of RCM) being injected intravascularly for film-screen radiographic angiography, probably the largest quantity of any drug used in the whole of clinical medicine.

        Intravascular Contrast Media for Radiology, CT and MRI

        Preclinical imaging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        iothalamate: a water-soluble iodinated radiopaque medium for a variety of radiographic procedures, including ANGIOGRAPHY, ARTHROGRAPHY, UROGRAPHY, CHOLANGIOGRAPHY, and computed tomographic imaging.

        Iodine, as a physically dense element with high electron density and high atomic number, is quite radio-opaque (i.e., it absorbs X-rays well).


        P.S. My reply to Grizz regarding iodine and Magnets should be released soon by the moderators. It will post two or more pages back from this page. I will notify you great iodiners when it does. t2t

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        • Originally posted by t2t View Post
          Hi Paleo girl,

          Here is a girl who discovered how to get rid of flouride, and get rid of acne. Some nice before and after pics.

          Fluoroderma: Acne Caused by Fluoride Exposure


          http://www.celluliteinvestigation.co...luoroderma.pdf


          P.S. With evaporation you will absorb about 12% to 14% of iodine through the skin. I suspect one would absorb a higher percentage if you use grapeseed oil, olive oil, coconut oil with the Iodine or wrap the area, if possible with plastic or large bandaid. So 100 MILLIgrams of elemental iodine by itself, painted on, would give you 12mg to 14 mg's through your skin.

          Be well,

          t2t

          P.S. You might want to try B5 (Pantothenic Acid) Most of the 33 reviews are positive and many of the women are in their 30’s. Most of these girls are taking 2000 milligrams to 5000 milligrams a day but hey, if it works…

          Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Pan Acid (Pantothenic Acid) 1000mg Timed Release - 100 - Sustained Release Tablet
          T2T,

          Yea 2 Thumbs up on your 2 links about Fluoride. Those are the best 2 links on the net.

          And thanks for that link on Pantothenic Acid - I've never heard of that one.

          BTW) while I have your attention, what is your opinion of Magnetized Iodine?

          Grizz

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          • Hi Grizz,

            I actually experimented with painting my skin with iodine that was set in a very powerful field of magnets for 3 days before trying it.

            The results were stunning for me. The magnetized iodine absorbed through the skin almost twice as fast as the unmagnetized iodine Also it calmed my detox symptoms down too by at least 40%.

            Each person is different but I really believe that Trapper's MagNEdyn works more in concert with the body than non-magnetized iodine.

            I emailed you at curezone regarding my posts waiting for approval here at marks apple.

            My 3rd post is about Doctors ordering tests for patients getting radiographic photos done with up to 200 GRAMS, yes I said GRAMS of iodine introduced into the patients body through IV. They give 70 GRAMS routinely to almost all patients who have this done. I posted this on Curezone awhile ago for those who want to peek at the post before it finds its way here.

            t2t

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            • My hubby has been using iodine directly on zits/small inflammation spots etc with no issue.
              Undiluted-No carrier oil.. However the trick is to apply it ONCE to the spot, No repeat applications!
              It only seems to need the single application to clear it up without causing any harm to the skin... I would not advise multiple applications over the same area though as im sure that continued contact would most likely be to harsh & damaging to the skin.
              Every time I hear the dirty word 'exercise', I wash my mouth out with chocolate.

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              • Originally posted by t2t View Post
                Hi Grizz,

                I actually experimented with painting my skin with iodine that was set in a very powerful field of magnets for 3 days before trying it.

                The results were stunning for me. The magnetized iodine absorbed through the skin almost twice as fast as the unmagnetized iodine Also it calmed my detox symptoms down too by at least 40%.

                Each person is different but I really believe that Trapper's MagNEdyn works more in concert with the body than non-magnetized iodine.

                I emailed you at curezone regarding my posts waiting for approval here at marks apple.

                My 3rd post is about Doctors ordering tests for patients getting radiographic photos done with up to 200 GRAMS, yes I said GRAMS of iodine introduced into the patients body through IV. They give 70 GRAMS routinely to almost all patients who have this done. I posted this on Curezone awhile ago for those who want to peek at the post before it finds its way here.

                t2t
                T2T,
                Ohhhh Myyyy Gaaaawd ! And these doctors are trying to tell us not to take iodine? I need to understand this...
                Hmmmm

                70 Grams of iodine routinely? That is 2.4 OUNCES ! ! More than a shot glass & almost a Double Shot !

                200 Grams ?? - That is 7 OUNCES ! !

                WHEW ! ! This blows my mind!
                I wonder what kind of detox symptoms these people have after taking this much iodine !

                What does this overload do to the poor thyroid, liver & kidneys? These folks will be pissing out pure iodine, a few hours later, eh?

                This makes Trappers jump to 100mg to expedite detox seem like a cake walk in the park.
                T2T, do you know of any newbees who jumped into 100mg of iodine? Did they report deathly detox?

                Grizz
                Last edited by Grizz; 07-13-2012, 10:50 AM.

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                • Originally posted by DinoHunter View Post
                  My hubby has been using iodine directly on zits/small inflammation spots etc with no issue.
                  Undiluted-No carrier oil.. However the trick is to apply it ONCE to the spot, No repeat applications!
                  It only seems to need the single application to clear it up without causing any harm to the skin... I would not advise multiple applications over the same area though as im sure that continued contact would most likely be to harsh & damaging to the skin.
                  I think it is OK to paint iodine directly to the skin once a week. I've done that with the iodine skin patch test. I think it is also OK to paint Lugols diluted with water directly to the skin. 10% lugols into 90% water some at the Curezone are doing this.

                  But I know for a fact that painting directly every day without a carrier oil WILL damage the skin. I've done that when I was painting a skin lesion. I got rid of the lesion, but the surrounding skin got dermatitis. It is difficult to paint the same skin every day without dripping or spilling over to the normal skin. I think I have the solution to this problem if anyone wants to try it. The Yahoo Iodine Group routinely paints the skin using a carrier oil all the time. There is a LOT of discussion about that subject.

                  Grizz

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                  • Hi Grizz,
                    No I don't know of anyone who jumped to 100 mg's real fast. I jumped to over 500 mg's real fast when getting rid of my ulcers.

                    But I was taking the selonomethionine too and had been on iodine a while. BTW I was using magnetized iodine too!

                    But now we all know we have been decieved on true dosage when you see people being administered up to 200 Grams of iodine in an IV. But still I have read that folks of yester-year took daily doses of 1 Gram a day of iodine as maintenance and higher doses to try to help severely sick people.

                    The only way I would try to take 2 grams of iodine is to divide it into 12 doses at 200 mg's per dose. Just for one day.

                    t2t
                    Last edited by t2t; 07-13-2012, 09:42 PM. Reason: traps and grizzes concerns on overboard

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                    • PAINTING BREASTS BY DR. DERRY


                      Ruth
                      Dr David Derry sent me instructions on how to paint with iodine. he said, use a brush about 2 inches wide. Paint both breasts and under the arms. Paint until the colour is a mid amber colour. If the skin becomes leathery back off for a day then resume. I now use a powder puff as it is less messy. I keep it iodine saturated in a plastic bag. I have to add I havent painted for a while, thanks for the reminder.
                      Jane T, UK
                      Yahoo! Groups
                      PS I think Dr. Derry should have said how frequently to do this. Once a day?
                      Until the skin turns LEATHERY? No way can I agree with this. Maybe once a week?

                      Here is an idea. Why not paint the skin first, then after it dries apply the Grapeseed Oil to protect the skin. Grapeseed oil soaks right into the skin, so it should protect it after the iodine has been painted.

                      I left a message for Jane, I hope she answers.
                      Grizz
                      Last edited by Grizz; 07-13-2012, 12:05 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                        HappyPaleoGirl,
                        You will be even happier to learn that YES ! You are correct. It is the detox and the halide toxins causing your acne + cyst, not the iodine. You are correct, iodine will help both. Paint iodine over your cyst and it will break out & go away. Paint iodine over your worst acne to help it. However you must use an oil carrier to prevent Dermatitus damage to the skin. Iodine without a carrier oil WILL damage the skin. Mix the oil with iodine in the palm of your hand, then apply to the skin. I like to use Grapeseed Oil, but you can also use coconut oil, etc. I've got some testimonials on removing a cyst, see Iodine References.

                        IMO, you are having WAY TOO MANY detox problems. Are you CERTAIN you are not ingesting or breathing something loaded with Halides?
                        * NO CITY WATER ( contains fluorides or chlorine )
                        * No showers with contaminated city water. Filter your shower water.
                        * NO BOTTLED WATER with chemicals added. Shockingly, even bottled water has fluoride added ! ! ! ! Read the labels carefully for added chemicals. It hard to find a brand of bottled water that is chemical free.
                        * No Bottled Water made from CITY WATER, even if it says "Filtered" It requires an expensive reverse osmosis filter to remove fluoride.
                        * No BEER made with CITY WATER
                        * No makeup - no hair coloring ( you are attractive just the way you are )
                        * No bread no baked goods ( contains Bromide)
                        * No processed food. Eat only natural Paleo foods.
                        * Nothing with alcohol ( made with city water)

                        See if any of these rings a bell:
                        The Fluoride Glut: Sources of Fluoride Exposure
                        Bromides?? In bread? - The Iodine Project
                        The Chlorine Institute, Inc.

                        Where do you work? Do you work in a toxic environement?

                        There has to be a continuing source of Halides into your body. What about air pollution. Do you drive a new car every day?
                        What do you think?

                        I must also add that Trapper at the Curezone has a controversial recommendation that taking 100mg daily of iodine expedites detox to get it ALL over with in just a few days. I am not recommending this. But we do have 2 people testing this concept out over there.

                        Trapper is a 50% owner of the Curezone Iodine Group and has 5 years of iodine experience under his belt. He is no dummy and he is not a crackpot in spite of some of his recommendations that seem crazy... His advice to jump into 100mg to expedite detox is counter intuitive and takes a HUGE leap of faith. I'm researching his controversial subjects.

                        Curezone VVT Iodine Group is a GREAT place to search for answers.
                        Iodine Supplementation Support Forum by VWT Team, Page 264, Vulcanel, Wombat & Trapper/kcmo:

                        If you get lost in menus after a search, just go to the top right
                        * Click Forums
                        * Click "Iodine Supplement Support by VVT
                        This will get you back to the above starting screen. It will take some time to get used to the CureZone, but time well spent. The results are great. I LOVE their format to see an entire thread tree at once.

                        Grizz
                        Hi Grizz,

                        I agree, I do seem to be awfully sensitive to the detox effects of iodine!
                        Let's see:
                        Currently the water that I drink more than 90% of the time is filtered to remove chlorine and fluoride. I fill a big BPA free jug with it every morning and drink it at work, too.
                        My shower water is filtered.
                        I don't drink bottled water.
                        I do have alcohol on occasion, beer, wine, spirits. I wouldn't think it would be enough to warrant this level of toxicity.
                        I do wear makeup, only to cover the hyperpigmentation. Honestly, I'd scare people without it! However, I use an all natural mineral makeup.
                        I also get my hair colored.
                        I don't eat bread, baked goods, processed foods, soda, etc. I eat a very clean paleo diet, with the exception of the occasional aforementioned alcoholic beverages.

                        I don't work in a toxic environment, that I know of. My company moved into our current building a year ago, and everything was gutted and redone and it is a "green" building.
                        I do drive daily, but my car is 6 years old.

                        As far as air pollution, I don't know. I don't think it's that bad, though.

                        I certainly wouldn't try the 100mgs to get the detox over with quickly! I like the slow and steady approach. It feels good to my body and my mind. It took a long time to become this toxic, and I am not in a race. Going slowly I have no detox symptoms. And I am not entirely sure that this crazy breakout recently is from the 50mgs of iodine last week. As I said, I didn't break out this badly when I was taking way too much iodine when I first started. I may have gotten one or 2. And I'm not experiencing any broderma at all, thankfully.

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                        • Originally posted by oxide View Post
                          Don't use iodine on your face!!! It really does a number on your skin.

                          I've tried various iodine applications in my experiments with the moles, and tried a little acne painting on a cyst on my neck. I don't know what magic Grizz is doing, but painting and carrier oils don't do anything to my skin. The only thing that seems to work is to soak the entire pad (5 mm x 5 mm) of a commercial band-aid with Lugol's and slap one on every day. Even then, all it does is burn the entire skin layer to a crisp (I mean this literally, the skin is brown and breaks into pieces, like a scab), taking off layers of the flaw with it. My skin looks like a combination of ground beef and 2nd degree burn. It might be worth it for a mole, but not for a zit. And you don't want this on your face.

                          [No Grizz, do NOT yell at me to use a carrier oil. I tried it. It doesn't work.]

                          When the cyst gets close to the surface, you may try the home-made spot band-aid. Roll up a tiny piece of gauze into a tiny ball (2 mm x 2 mm), stick the gauze on a piece of adhesive tape, drop Lugol's on the guaze, and apply directly. Same effect but a much smaller area. Be very very careful, and take it off immediately if you feel it stinging.

                          I once put the iodine band-aid on a mosquito bite, and took it off after only one hour. It worked to stop the itch, but the burned skin stayed around for 10 days, while the bite would have been gone after 3 days. Sometimes it's best not to mess with something.
                          oxide, thanks for this warning. This makes me think of the time that I soaked a small cotton pad with apple cider vinegar, put it over a cyst that I was trying to get rid of and covered that with a band aid (just over a year ago, come to think of it, which was the last time I had a cyst!). I did it for a few nights in a row and it got rid of the cyst alright, but it also burned the skin all around it. I would've been better off leaving it alone. I think that I will definitely be very careful with using iodine on my face. Oddly enough, my Retin-A spot treating isn't affecting these pimples at all, when it usually will nip them in the bud. Strange stuff!

                          If I give the iodine a try at all, it will definitely be with a carrier oil. I've got both jojoba and almond oil. I'm not sure I would use coconut oil as a carrier. The first 2 oils will sink into my skin after a time, but coconut oil always stays greasy on me.

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                          • Originally posted by t2t View Post
                            Hi Paleo girl,

                            Here is a girl who discovered how to get rid of flouride, and get rid of acne. Some nice before and after pics.

                            Fluoroderma: Acne Caused by Fluoride Exposure


                            http://www.celluliteinvestigation.co...luoroderma.pdf


                            P.S. With evaporation you will absorb about 12% to 14% of iodine through the skin. I suspect one would absorb a higher percentage if you use grapeseed oil, olive oil, coconut oil with the Iodine or wrap the area, if possible with plastic or large bandaid. So 100 MILLIgrams of elemental iodine by itself, painted on, would give you 12mg to 14 mg's through your skin.

                            Be well,

                            t2t

                            P.S. You might want to try B5 (Pantothenic Acid) Most of the 33 reviews are positive and many of the women are in their 30’s. Most of these girls are taking 2000 milligrams to 5000 milligrams a day but hey, if it works…

                            Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Pan Acid (Pantothenic Acid) 1000mg Timed Release - 100 - Sustained Release Tablet
                            Thanks for the info, t2t.

                            The thing is that aside from this breakout, I have been pretty much acne free for the past 8 years. This is all of a sudden, and so I do not believe that it's caused by fluoride (which is no longer in my water). I do recall Grizz posting that website awhile back, when I was trying to figure out what my broderma was! Definitely good stuff.
                            Back when I was still dealing with cystic acne (in my 20s, prior to Accutane), I did try mega dosing pantothenic acid. It didn't work for me. There is not much that I didn't try back in those days! I raided the internet and jumped on any bandwagon that promised clear skin! Accutane was the only thing that worked for me.

                            I am sure that this is brought on by something recent. I added a new supplement (curcumin) into my regimen last week, so I am going to stop taking that for now. I've also been having copious amounts of heavy cream lately, and I generally have very little dairy. So I'm nixing that for now, too. Dairy never broke me out before, but I've noticed that I've become much more sensitive to certain foods after cutting them out for awhile (like grains and dairy!). Hopefully it will clear up just as quickly as it began.

                            I really appreciate all of the advice!!

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                            • Originally posted by Happy Paleo Girl View Post
                              oxide, thanks for this warning. This makes me think of the time that I soaked a small cotton pad with apple cider vinegar, put it over a cyst that I was trying to get rid of and covered that with a band aid (just over a year ago, come to think of it, which was the last time I had a cyst!). I did it for a few nights in a row and it got rid of the cyst alright, but it also burned the skin all around it. I would've been better off leaving it alone. I think that I will definitely be very careful with using iodine on my face. Oddly enough, my Retin-A spot treating isn't affecting these pimples at all, when it usually will nip them in the bud. Strange stuff!

                              If I give the iodine a try at all, it will definitely be with a carrier oil. I've got both jojoba and almond oil. I'm not sure I would use coconut oil as a carrier. The first 2 oils will sink into my skin after a time, but coconut oil always stays greasy on me.
                              HappyPaleoGirl,

                              Here is my idea for keeping iodine where you want it, and AWAY from where you don't want it. Ideal for a skin lesion, or maybe for your cyst. Get a can of black automotive graphite grease. With a Q-Tip carefully paint a black grease circle around your lesion where you do NOT want the iodine. . Now apply the iodine into the center of the grease circle with your dropper. WAHLAH grease protects your skin, lesion gets all the iodine. Wait for the iodine to dry, then wipe off all the grease.

                              Next, to keep the iodine spot from burning your skin, apply Grape Seed Oil to the skin. Grape Seed Oil is MAGICAL, it soaks into the skin to nourish it, and I am convinced it will prevent dermatitus. Test this out with a patch of skin on your wrist. Apply a patch of iodine every day, to the same spot, let it dry then apply grapeseed oil. Let me know how this works. After a week or even 2 weeks of doing this, should not see any dermatitus.

                              Hugs & Kisses,
                              Grizz
                              Last edited by Grizz; 07-13-2012, 02:30 PM.

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                              • OHHHH MYYYY GAAAWD ! This video is a MUST WATCH !



                                This video PROVES what I've been saying all along. The Drug companies are FAR WORSE than criminally irresponsible.
                                Hugs & Kisses to Dr. Tenpenny. What Dr. Tenpenny is revealing is FAR WORSE than my worst nightmares. This is like a Science Fiction Horror Story ! Except it is REAL.


                                More confirmation of the horrors in the above video:
                                Merck Teams With Gates Foundation to Further Worldwide Depopulation

                                http://www.activistpost.com/2012/07/...dation-to.html

                                Free Sterilization for Women under ObamaCare Aug 1st
                                http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...amacare/17638/
                                Grizz
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